Which team won Cutter Gauthier for Jamie Drysdale and 2025 2nd round pick

[viper0220]

Reading the thread for this trade, opinions are all over the place, which team won this trade Philadelphia Flyers or the Anaheim Ducks

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[HanSolo]

Ask again after Cutter's played at least one year of NHL hockey. Might have a better sense whether Drysdale really is injury prone or has been unlucky too.

 

[Mirka the Turka]

Cutter is a primadonna. Ducks gonna regret this trade when they find out he's a 30 pt player

 

[Devonator]

So close....a great deal for both sides....

 

[Deno]

I have no idea which players will be best.
Philly wins big time.
What I do know is Cutter Gauthier has already proven he will a problem player before he has played one game in the NHL. I would not want this type of player on my team. The Ducks will regret this trade.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Literally no way to determine this right now. Gauthier hasn't played a single pro game. Drysdale has barely played for the last two years.

I think Verbeek, coming from Detroit, has a similar mentality in what he likes out of a player. (200 ft forwards who are hard to play against) Gauthier fits what he likes, so good for him capitalizing.

That said, Philly was in a really shitty situation having a recent 5OA pick jerking them around. The fact that they came out of it with a recent 6OA and an added 2nd rounder isn't bad. People dragging that trade for Philly should really look into the Adam Fox situation and the minimal value he had. Granted, Fox didn't have the draft pedigree Gauthier does.

 

[LaMasquerade]

Considering the situation (the player doesn't want to play for you team ==> he has basically negative value for YOUR team), I'd say Philadelphia got pretty nice return.

The way they're playing this year, I'd assume that ANA 2nd round pick in 2025 draft will likely be among the more valuable 2nd round picks. Obviously bit of a lottery, but with good scouting there might be some new "Sebastian Aho"-lite level player available.

 

[Canovin]

The Anaheim pick might end up as the best player lol

 

[Dion TheFluff]

to early to tell

 

[sr edler]

Wouldn't be surprised if this turns out the new Hodgson vs Kassian trade.

So much hype, so much drama, so little substance.

 

[trick9]

Ducks.

Nobody has better knowledge of the D's than Ducks so that's already a red flag to trade for him. Drysdale when healthy is a solid PP specialist though so maybe he can help the Flyers PP.

 

[surixon]

Flyers for me. I'm a big fan of Drysdale and think he plays the more valuable position.

Ducks.

Nobody has better knowledge of the D's than Ducks so that's already a red flag to trade for him. Drysdale when healthy is a solid PP specialist though so maybe he can help the Flyers PP.

The same Ducks that let Theodore go to Vegas and traded away Montour.

They seem to know how to draft them but they haven't exactly made the best decisions with regards to which dmen to retain on their roster.

 

[Killer Orcas]

Spin the magic wheel and see where it stops not a great start for either player. However very different circumstances ones always hurt other well not a good look demanding trade before playing a game.

 

[LetsGoBLUES91]

Ducks. Not close. Props to Philly for getting a solid return though given the situation.

 

[HanSolo]

Flyers for me. I'm a big fan of Drysdale and think he plays the more valuable position.



The same Ducks that let Theodore go to Vegas and traded away Montour.

They seem to know how to draft them but they haven't exactly made the best decisions with regards to which dmen to retain on their roster.

At the time Theodore had the bigger defensive struggles and it's not like they dumped him because they wanted to. They were in a bind and were going to lose someone. Vatanen was more established and they bet wrong that Montour would be the better player. As for Montour, he wasn't anything special until last season and so far this year he seems to have come back down to earth a bit with only 7 points in 24 games. Granted there may be some injury trouble there, I haven't been keeping tabs.

Lindholm was traded as a rebuilding move and to allow Hampus to move on to a competitive team.

There's definitely question marks insofar as hoping Drysdale can meet his absolute ceiling and stay healthy. It's a good get for the Flyers but it isn't some critical loss for the Ducks. Mintyukov looks like he's tracking to be better than Drysdale overall if a slightly weaker skater. Luneau progressed really quickly before his injury and assuming the recovery isn't too dramatic he should at least be a solid second pair second PP puck mover with a decent defensive game. Zellweger is playing well in the AHL after the Gulls had a rough start and if all goes well with him he should be a strong skating puck moving defenseman that could be top pairing quality if all goes right in development.

The point is I think Anaheim is trading from a better position of positional strength here than when they moved Theodore and Montour. The only concern from me is how well Gauthier will adapt to the NHL and gel with Anaheim's roster.

 

[LuGBuG]

Too early too say. Drysdale hasn’t played a game for Philly yet and Cutter hasn’t played in the NHL yet.

 

[Love]

Philly because they ditched Quitter Gauthier

 

[wetcoast]

Ask again after Cutter's played at least one year of NHL hockey. Might have a better sense whether Drysdale really is injury prone or has been unlucky too.

Something like this but I think given the circumstances this is a "both teams won the trade" situation.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Too early to tell.

It's just like the "WhO won ThE dRaFt" just after it happened.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

based on trade value and circumstances for Philly….

I think Philly did great.

Traded a 5th overall forward for a more developed 5th overall dmen and got anahiem to add a pick that looks like it’ll be in the top 45 range, while dealing with a player that said he wouldn’t play there.

For Anaheim, on paper it’s a bit rough…. But eventually we were going to have to move a dmen for forward help, and gauthier is a perfect fit to compliment what we already have. It’s also a guy PV and our scouts really liked and wanted.

Long term it can change if drysdale doesn’t take step forwards, and gauthier hits his potential, but right now pretty easily Philly

That being said I don’t mind it from Anaheim…. Just hope we have the right call on gauthier

 

[HanSolo]

Something like this but I think given the circumstances this is a "both teams won the trade" situation.

Maybe. A lot depends on both guys. Conceptually speaking, if Gauthier can be a strong top line quality complement as a goal scorer, it's exactly what Anaheim's young core needs. If he struggles to adapt to the NHL or he gets out of dodge once Verbeek inevitably plays hardball with his first real contract, it's a loss for the Ducks unless they get good value if they have to trade him away.

I feel like this is less of a gamble for the Flyers since, unless Drysdale is just a chronically injured player, even if he stayed at his current level the rest of his career the Flyers still get a proven second pair guy with great skating out of it.

From what I can gather, Gauthier should be an NHL player. The question is will he be a good one or a third line utility guy?

 

[biturbo19]

A lot of it really depends on what Drysdale's durability is going to be going forward. If he can stay healthier, i think Philly got the better end of this deal pretty easily. He's got all the traits to be a quality Top-3 RHD and that's hugely valuable. Just a matter of whether he'll be able to stay on the ice with any consistency, and how all this missed time ultimately impacts his development.


But that swap straight across is a win for Philly if he can stay healthier. They also get what is likely a pretty high 2nd round pick, potentially even one of those spots where you can pick up a "fringe 1st" caliber prospect too? That's not just throw-in value.


Especially skews Philly's way when you consider that Cutter didn't seem to have any interest in signing with/playing for the Flyers. So to pull off that kind of value when your hand is forced is pretty impressive too.

I also still just don't love Cutter Gauthier as a prospect. He could turn out to be a really valuable "power forward" type piece. But he could also still very easily pan out as a bottom-6 grinder. Though from a Ducks perspective...that's something they can afford to gamble on, because it's something they definitely need more of in their lineup. Either way really.

 

[nbwingsfan]

I’ll say Philly just for the fact they could have received a ton less if it got out that Gauthier wouldn’t sign.

I also really hate players who refuse to sign with the team that drafted them

 

[alvinia]

Anaheim

 

[surixon]

At the time Theodore had the bigger defensive struggles and it's not like they dumped him because they wanted to. They were in a bind and were going to lose someone. Vatanen was more established and they bet wrong that Montour would be the better player. As for Montour, he wasn't anything special until last season and so far this year he seems to have come back down to earth a bit with only 7 points in 24 games. Granted there may be some injury trouble there, I haven't been keeping tabs.

Lindholm was traded as a rebuilding move and to allow Hampus to move on to a competitive team.

There's definitely question marks insofar as hoping Drysdale can meet his absolute ceiling and stay healthy. It's a good get for the Flyers but it isn't some critical loss for the Ducks. Mintyukov looks like he's tracking to be better than Drysdale overall if a slightly weaker skater. Luneau progressed really quickly before his injury and assuming the recovery isn't too dramatic he should at least be a solid second pair second PP puck mover with a decent defensive game. Zellweger is playing well in the AHL after the Gulls had a rough start and if all goes well with him he should be a strong skating puck moving defenseman that could be top pairing quality if all goes right in development.

The point is I think Anaheim is trading from a better position of positional strength here than when they moved Theodore and Montour. The only concern from me is how well Gauthier will adapt to the NHL and gel with Anaheim's roster.

Sure, they have some org strength on d so it makes sense to deal from that position to address what they feel are org weaknesses.

I just thought the post was a bit hyperbolic.

I personally think this will likely be win win in the end. I like Drysdale and his upside so I give Philly the small edge.