Where do you rank Martin Brodeur all time among goalies?

[Wallet Inspector]

Personally I think I'd have him 3rd, with Roy at 2nd and Hasek at 1st.

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[bobholly39]

Top 10

 

[CanadienShark]

Top 10.

 

[McPoyle]

Hes definitely behind Roy and Hasek.

 

[Xspyrit]

Personally I think I'd have him 3rd, with Roy at 2nd and Hasek at 1st.

That top-3 is very hard to debate IMO

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Top 10...but like 8 or 9th

That top-3 is very hard to debate IMO

Plante, Dryden, Sawchuk, Hall and Parent all make it easy to debate

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Top 10...but like 8 or 9th



Plante, Dryden, Sawchuk, Hall and Parent all make it easy to debate

Back when they tracked save percentage on an abacus. It's near impossible to make these comparisons.

 

[FissionFire]

Top 10 really. There are a lot of dominant goalies throughout history that can make a strong case to be above him. He’s not in the Hasek/Roy tier and I don’t think he’s really in the next one with guys like Plante/Dryden/Sawchuk/Hall. I have him more in a tier with guys like Brimsek or CuJo

 

[Goptor]

It may not be the most popular way to determine the greatest player in a sport but I always hold the players who break the game to the highest regard.

Brodeur forced the league to change its rules because he was too good at what he did. Hasek and Roy never got to that level.

 

[Voodoo Child]

I’ve got him at three behind Roy and Hasek.

His records, maybe they were partly because he played on a great team, but whoever heard of a puck moving goalie before him? Now every goalie needs to be at least competent playing the puck, that was him.

And not only that, but he played 90-95% of the games, that doesn’t happen anymore.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Top 3. He changed the way the position and game is played with his puck handling. He basically allowed the Devils to trap teams. Now every team in the league traps in certain scenarios

 

[Weztex]

No higher than 5 since Idon’t really see an argument for him to be ahead of those 4.

Dominik Hasek
Probably had the highest peak of any player ever outside of the big-4. Enormous NHL and international legacy.

Patrick Roy
Completely changed the way the position was played. In the running for the best playoff performer of all time.

Jacques Plante
Was goaltending the greatest dynasty ever with Smythe worthy performances. Brought countless innovations like handling the puck. Had incredible stints in later years with STL and TOR.

Glenn Hall
Incredibly long prime which earned him 7 1st All Star teams (equivalent of 7 Vezina trophies) and a Conn Smythe. Incredibly consistent goalie.

After that Brodeur enters the conversation but so does Terry Sawchuk, Ken Dryden and Vladislav Tretiak. So while having him outside of the top 10 would probably be underestimating him severely, I think he can arguably be ranked anywhere between 5-8. (I have him at 5)

 

[amnesiac]

Hasek
Roy
Plante
Sawchuk
Hall
Brodeur
Dryden

and I dont think Ive ever seen a 20-20-20 3 way tie

 

[hamzarocks]

3rd

His longevity is absurd along with a great prime and a good peak season

Hasek and Roy edge for 1 and 2, buts he easily 3rd for me

 

[Foppberg]

Around 8th or so, 8-10 range.

 

[Dr John Carlson]

I have him more in a tier with guys like Brimsek or CuJo

CuJo, who was his direct contemporary, was beaten by Brodeur in Vezinas 4-0, All Star teams 7-0, Cups 3-0...? Not seeing it.

 

[JoelWarlord]

It may not be the most popular way to determine the greatest player in a sport but I always hold the players who break the game to the highest regard.

Brodeur forced the league to change its rules because he was too good at what he did. Hasek and Roy never got to that level.

So did Sean Avery.

 

[HabsQC]

I voted 3, mostly because of this

Brodeur's NHL records :

Most Minutes Played in a Single Season - 4,697 - 2006-07
Most Wins in a Single Season- 48 - 2006-07
Most Consecutive 30 Win Seasons - 12 - 1995-96 through 2007-08
Most Consecutive 35-win seasons (11)
Most 40 Win Seasons - 8 - (1997-98, 1999-00, 2000-01, 2002-03, 2005-06, 2006-07, 2007-08, 2009-10)
Most Consecutive 40 Win Seasons - 3 - 2005-06 through 2007-08
Most All-Time OT Wins - 52
Most All-Time Shootout Wins - 26
Most Shootout Shots Against in a Single Seasons - 60 - 2006-07
Most All-Time Shootout Shots Against - 141
Most Consecutive Post-Season Starts - 158
Best Post-Season Goals-Against Average All-Time - 1.96
Most Shutouts in a Post-Season Series - 3 (tie), 2003 Stanley Cup Finals vs. Anaheim
Most Shutouts in a Post Season (7, in 2002-03)
Most Shutouts, Regular Season + Postseason - 149
Only NHL goaltender to score a game-winning goal
One of only two NHL goalies to score a goal in both the regular season and the playoffs
First goaltender in history to have 3 shutouts in 2 different playoff series. (1995 against Boston Bruins, 2003 against Anaheim Ducks )
Most consecutive opening night starts with one team (17)
Most Regular Season Wins All Time - 691
Most Regular Season Shutouts - 125
Most Games Played All Time by a Goaltender - 1,266
Most 30 Win Seasons - 13
Most Minutes All Time - 74,438
Most Post-Season Shutouts - 24
Most Career Regular Season Goals by a Goaltender - 2
Most Career Goals (Including Playoffs) by a Goaltender - 3
Most Career Saves - 28,508

 

[MichaelFarrell]

1. Hasek
2. Brodeur
3. Roy
4. Lundqvist
5. Vasilevskiy
6. Price
7. Luongo
8. Rinne
9. Rask
10. Thomas (for like 5 years)

HM: Belfor, MAF, Joseph, Miller


I usually only consider goalies that played in like 1990 and up.

 

[Xspyrit]

Plante, Dryden, Sawchuk, Hall and Parent all make it easy to debate

Have you ever stood between the pipes? Trust me, you wouldn't do it without a mask

Plante, Sawchuk and Hall all spent a big part of their careers not wearing masks... I mean, you just can't compare that hockey with modern hockey

Dryden only played 7 seasons... just not long enough

What's the case for Parent over Brodeur?

 

[jigglysquishy]

4th or 5th.

1. Hasek
2. Roy
3. Plante

I go back and forth between Hall and Brodeur for 4th.

 

[MichaelFarrell]

4th or 5th.

1. Hasek
2. Roy
3. Plante

I go back and forth between Hall and Brodeur for 4th.

How can you put a goalie who played in the 50s in your top 3? What’s your criteria?

 

[jigglysquishy]

How can you put a goalie who played in the 50s in your top 3? What’s your criteria?

If you're going to ignore 70% of professional hockey history, then you're simply unwilling to make an all time list. Ignorance is no excuse.

Plante's dominance in the mid to the late 50s is higher than Brodeur achieved.

He was the linchpin of 6 Cups, and has many more elite runs on top of that.

The Hart Trophy in 1962.

The HoH has routinely voted Hasek/Roy/Plante as the top 3 goalies ever.

 

[norrisnick]

How can you put a goalie who played in the 50s in your top 3? What’s your criteria?

The same as you rank any other player. You see what they did against their peers. That's all you can do.

 

[amnesiac]

How can you put a goalie who played in the 50s in your top 3? What’s your criteria?

how bout 7 Vezinas and Hart on top of 6 Cups.

Are you seriously one of those who thinks since today's athletes are bigger, stronger, faster than 30+ years ago, that makes them "greater" athletes?