Where did Yzerman go wrong with the rebuild?

[JohanFranzenstein]

Once again: Steve needs to come out and do a presser and tell the fans "hey, sorry, this season is a wash". Maybe I could afford to go to another game this year that way.

 

[Frk It]

Really impressive what the Caps have done with their retool

Tons of smart, high upside acquisitions paying off big time

We should have added 1 of the 2 defenseman they did. 100%.

 

[Snuggs]

We should have added 1 of the 2 defenseman they did. 100%.

Gustafsson and Lagesson. c'mon. brought up albertson/edvinsson.

 

[GMR]

Maybe the rebuild went wrong by hiring Yzerman.

I mean it was the correct move in hindsight since he was previously groomed for the job and had success in Tampa. But his decision making has progressively gotten worse in free agency. And he's too stubborn to fire bad coaches.

The final verdict will be on the recent draft picks but some of these guys are years away from NHL regulars.

 

[Frk It]

Gustafsson and Lagesson. c'mon. brought up albertson/edvinsson.

Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, lol.

I’m assuming you are?

Anyhow the miscalculation that this group was ‘good enough’ on the back end looks bad every time we take the ice.

Having Chychrun and Edvinsson on two separate pairings would be so huge for us, IMO.

 

[Snuggs]

Maybe the rebuild went wrong by hiring Yzerman.

I mean it was the correct move in hindsight since he was previously groomed for the job and had success in Tampa. But his decision making has progressively gotten worse in free agency. And he's too stubborn to fire bad coaches.

The final verdict will be on the recent draft picks but some of these guys are years away from NHL regulars.

 

[Winger98]

Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, lol.

I’m assuming you are?

Anyhow the miscalculation that this group was ‘good enough’ on the back end looks bad every time we take the ice.

Having Chychrun and Edvinsson on two separate pairings would be so huge for us, IMO.

I'm not sure Ottawa would have dealt with us again without getting a clear win in the deal.

I'm also not sold on the idea that anyone thought this group was good enough, but that cap/term costs of upgrading didn't offset just standing pat. If anything it probably reveals more of where the front office saw the team this season.

 

[GMR]

Elephant in the room. Many of us grew up idolizing him, but if he wasn't Steve Yzerman, wouldn't more people be asking for his job?

 

[Frk It]

I'm not sure Ottawa would have dealt with us again without getting a clear win in the deal.

I'm also not sold on the idea that anyone thought this group was good enough, but that cap/term costs of upgrading didn't offset just standing pat. If anything it probably reveals more of where the front office saw the team this season.

Could be the case.

As frustrated/disinterested I am with this current roster I still have a decent belief in the overall direction of the roster.

I just wish we would have done more to make watching games this year more enjoyable/compelling.

Oh well. I’m enjoying football right now, at least.

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

Never saw Larkin retiring a redwing. Theres a reason his full contract doesnt have a ntc but I don't think itll be now that hes moved

To make big moves you need 1sts and assets your willing to move. I'd be moving debrincat to get some of those assets since I dont see him getting a longterm deal from yzerman in 2 years

To get rid of some guys earlier we should just retain 50% off some guys with an extra year

Holl or chiarot
Tarasenko
Copp or compher

Compher at 4 mill I think we can get a good return since it's his first struggle in a few seasons. Think avs gladly take him back at a reduced salary

Copp at 3.5 I think someone takes him

Tarasenko at 50% I think a cup contender takes a flyer on his name alone for a 2nd. Longer we wait and he keeps doing nothing we'll get back nothing

Anyways I think theres things yzerman can try to do, whether be does it who knows. If we have to eat 6 million in cap space next season so be it , who cares

We'll have rookie contracts in play shorterm. Time to Dump guys

Larkin's extension came with the first 5 years have NTC. The last three, he submits a 10 team list that he is willing to go to.

So Dylan is moving only if Dylan wants to, the team couldn't just accept any trade on him right now.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Elephant in the room. Many of us grew up idolizing him, but if he wasn't Steve Yzerman, wouldn't more people be asking for his job?

The team has improved every single season so far except this one. Canning a GM prematurely is one way teams get stuck in purgatory.

I’ve been watching Yzerman since he was named captain, but that has zilch to do with how I think of him as GM.

A linear rebuild would be great but seems really optimistic. No matter who the GM was I wouldn’t be saying they should get fired yet. But this offseason is definitely under more pressure now.

 

[cvaicunas]

Interim fix??? Were close to bottom of the standings lmfao ... we're winning squat next 2 seasons lets be real

If someone wants to send a 1st for 50% retained on a goalie who'll be 38 next season it's a no brainer. Lyon has put on good stats he just can't handle 50+ games, give him 2 year deal and tandem him with cossa . Not much of a difference

Exactly! We're already losing with above average, often excellent goaltending. Do we really need to go back to getting blown out every game to feel better about the tank. As shit as a lot of the game play is this season. I would still rather watch a 2-1 loss than a 5-1 loss, (don't bring up last night, there were two empty net goals). We can assume that Lyon can handle a 1A role, but I'm not ready to throw Cossa in there next year if he proves to not be ready. Let the kid marinate if need be. A larger portion of this rebuild is hinging on Cossa and/or Augustine panning out. I'm not ready to sacrifice that for another future lottery ticket. To close, I would rather Talbot mentor Cossa on how to be an NHL than Lyon.