Speculation: When Does Bruno Get The Boot?

[LCPreds]

Trotz is really sticking his neck out there for Bruno.

 

[101st_fan]

Trotz is really sticking his neck out there for Bruno.

It won’t go far.

 

[herzausstein]

Trotz and Bruno can now use the injuries excuse. What do you expect from a team that is missing RoR, Nyquist, Josi, Carrier, Lauzon?

Looks like we are still shoving all the young players onto a line and saying best of luck to you. Having L'Heureux, Pärssinen, and Svechkov together isnt a great idea. But i guess Bruno really doesnt want to leaverage the experience he has. Just gonna put them on a 4th line and play them when you absolutely have to.

 

[Roman Yoshi]

Trotz and Bruno can now use the injuries excuse. What do you expect from a team that is missing RoR, Nyquist, Josi, Carrier, Lauzon?

Looks like we are still shoving all the young players onto a line and saying best of luck to you. Having L'Heureux, Pärssinen, and Svechkov together isnt a great idea. But i guess Bruno really doesnt want to leaverage the experience he has. Just gonna put them on a 4th line and play them when you absolutely have to.

Well I expect a team missing RoR, NyQuil and Josi to be worse.

I expect a team missing Carrier and Lauzon to actually be better. If Schenn was missing we would also be better.

But yes the management now has an excuse and I hate that for the fans

 

[Armourboy]

He already had all the excuse he needed, the owners have all the excuse they need, they are being patient and letting them learn. Ladies and Gentlemen we might as well get used to it unless something suddenly clicks and one of them figures this mess out.

 

[Roman Yoshi]

He already had all the excuse he needed, the owners have all the excuse they need, they are being patient and letting them learn. Ladies and Gentlemen we might as well get used to it unless something suddenly clicks and one of them figures this mess out.

Someone needs to pay the batman building a pretty penny to drape a "fire Bruno and Trotz" banner on the building like the Preds didn't when they unveiled the gold sweaters

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

Someone needs to pay the batman building a pretty penny to drape a "fire Bruno and Trotz" banner on the building like the Preds didn't when they unveiled the gold sweaters

Could just drape it over the floors AT&T are vacating. Won't mess with anyone's views.

 

[herzausstein]

Well I expect a team missing RoR, NyQuil and Josi to be worse.

I expect a team missing Carrier and Lauzon to actually be better. If Schenn was missing we would also be better.

But yes the management now has an excuse and I hate that for the fans

Carrier and Lauzon are atleast nhl level dmen. I still would love to trade them but they are less suspect on the ice than the 4 AHL dmen we will be running.

Although, ive been pleasently surprised with Wilsby, Del Gaizo, and Blankspot. Wilsby and Del Gaizo are likely legitimate NHL bottom pairing defense and maybe a bit more ceiling if all goes well (like Carrier) and Blanker would actually be pretty decent if he wasnt microsized and easily zambonied off the puck

 

[Roman Yoshi]

Carrier and Lauzon are atleast nhl level dmen. I still would love to trade them but they are less suspect on the ice than the 4 AHL dmen we will be running.

Although, ive been pleasently surprised with Wilsby, Del Gaizo, and Blankspot. Wilsby and Del Gaizo are likely legitimate NHL bottom pairing defense and maybe a bit more ceiling if all goes well (like Carrier) and Blanker would actually be pretty decent if he wasnt microsized and easily zambonied off the puck

I'm not convinced Carrier should be an NHL defenseman. At least not an every night player

 

[herzausstein]

I'm not convinced Carrier should be an NHL defenseman. At least not an every night player

I think him and Lauzon would actually make a really good 3rd pair. Lauzon is paid like one but unfortunately we chose Carrier over Fabbro and paid Carrier like a 2nd pairing. Both are fine as long as they arent elevated above their ability. Both can play 2nd pairing as necessary. Carrier keeps getting put up to 1st pairing and looks terrible.

 

[Roman Yoshi]

I think him and Lauzon would actually make a really good 3rd pair. Lauzon is paid like one but unfortunately we chose Carrier over Fabbro and paid Carrier like a 2nd pairing. Both are fine as long as they arent elevated above their ability. Both can play 2nd pairing as necessary. Carrier keeps getting put up to 1st pairing and looks terrible.

In fairness I've been saying carrier isn't an NHL caliber d man for years at this point. Maybe a third pairing d man but I wouldn't have him as anything more than a 7th D on my roster personally. To weak on his skates, not good at battling in front and not good enough with passes out of the d zone.

I don't think he fills any particular need on the blue line.

 

[herzausstein]

In fairness I've been saying carrier isn't an NHL caliber d man for years at this point. Maybe a third pairing d man but I wouldn't have him as anything more than a 7th D on my roster personally. To weak on his skates, not good at battling in front and not good enough with passes out of the d zone.

I don't think he fills any particular need on the blue line.

I didnt want to extend him personally. Mostly because i knew Bruno was going to choose him over Fabbro and i thought that was an idiotic decision for now and the future.

 

[Predsanddead24]

I think him and Lauzon would actually make a really good 3rd pair. Lauzon is paid like one but unfortunately we chose Carrier over Fabbro and paid Carrier like a 2nd pairing. Both are fine as long as they arent elevated above their ability. Both can play 2nd pairing as necessary. Carrier keeps getting put up to 1st pairing and looks terrible.

Yeah I could have dug them as a pairing in that Irwin-Weber role.

 

[Scoresberg]

Good lord, what a disaster of a year..

 

[Legionnaire11]

At this point it's just wait and see. There's not really much else that can be said about the situation that hasn't been said. Or maybe I'm just becoming indifferent, didn't even know there was a game last night because it didn't occur to me to check. Subconsciously avoiding the disaster?

 

[Enoch]

I actually thought it was progress that Bruno did what almost 100% of other coaches would have done last night and put the big guns together. Surprise. It worked.

Its a shame that Bruno and Trotz forced Fabbro out. We gave up the depth we needed and waived a perfectly capable top 4 defenseman.... due to our coaches inflexibility.

8 straight losses.

Just pathetic.

 

[herzausstein]

I actually thought it was progress that Bruno did what almost 100% of other coaches would have done last night and put the big guns together. Surprise. It worked.

Its a shame that Bruno and Trotz forced Fabbro out. We gave up the depth we needed and waived a perfectly capable top 4 defenseman.... due to our coaches inflexibility.

8 straight losses.

Just pathetic.

Did it work though? We got some goals against a struggling goalie and only managed to get 20 shots on net.

 

[PredsV82]

 

[herzausstein]

At this point with the injuries piling up, do you really toss an interim coach into that situation?

 

[Predsanddead24]

At this point with the injuries piling up, do you really toss an interim coach into that situation?

If Bruno hasn't gotten fired to this point I don't see how it happens now that he has an excuse. I'm already mentally preparing myself for him to be back next season too.

 

[Flgatorguy87]

Reading through the thread just brings me to the realization that Bruno is not getting the boot. It's not going to happen. It seems Trotz feels there is something in Bruno and his style that is paramount to any type of on ice product or off ice development at this stage. I don't get it. Maybe he sees himself in Bruno and refuses to accept that he isn't the right guy? Projection isn't a valid explanation when this team continues to fail at epic proportions, but it kind of feels like that's what we are getting.

 

[glenngineer]

At this point with the injuries piling up, do you really toss an interim coach into that situation?

If it means playing the kids and getting them ice time to develop and learn the speed of the game, yes. If it also means certain guys never see the ice again, yes. The top vets who have won should be there. The young kids should be there. The tweeners have no place on this team moving forward so why are we playing them instead of guys who we're trying to develop?

If that interim coach also has a history of success with said young players, then why not? See what he can do. Trotz was an AHL coach before he became a head coach and had his struggles from having a not so talented roster to learning the game at this level.

Give Taylor the rest of the year and see what he can do, not only with the kids but with the vets. Cause here's the thing, I can hardly imagine it getting any worse than it already is.

 

[Armourboy]

The bad part of it is they will get to the end of the year and use the injuries as an excuse and act like they weren't stinking it up before that happened.

 

[Predsanddead24]

Reading through the thread just brings me to the realization that Bruno is not getting the boot. It's not going to happen. It seems Trotz feels there is something in Bruno and his style that is paramount to any type of on ice product or off ice development at this stage. I don't get it. Maybe he sees himself in Bruno and refuses to accept that he isn't the right guy? Projection isn't a valid explanation when this team continues to fail at epic proportions, but it kind of feels like that's what we are getting.

Yeah this is my theory too. Barry coached some pretty terrible teams early in his NHL career so it makes sense that he wants to give leash to his coach to develop. I also think his experience in Washington where he won the Cup despite nearly being fired the prior offseason plays into his thinking that patience is warranted. I think if we were in the mushy middle lot of us would be frustrated and likely calling for Bruno to be fired anyways and maybe Trotz would have a valid point in that case. Instead the reality is that we are the worst team in the league and have lost >75% of our games this season so any excuse just falls incredibly flat.

 

[Predsanddead24]

To add to my previous comment I missed this comment from Trotz yesterday which I think supports the idea the Trotz sees himself in Bruno:



There's also this one which is infuriating given the roster choices he's made: