Speculation: When Does Bruno Get The Boot?

When does Trotz pull the plug on Brunette?


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ILikeItILoveIt

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They stopped executing Lavi's system...actually he just didn't really have much of a system. They consistently couldn't employ Hynes'. Outside of a quarter season stretch they haven't been able to play Bruno's. I'd rather not sandbag a whole season hoping the trend reverses over an offseason.

Get a new guy in, let him see what he has to work with (and maybe salvage some of these young guys Bruno has sidelined) and use the rest of this year to work on things for next season under actual game conditions.
Rangers seem to have picked up Lavi's system pretty well.
 

Bringer of Jollity

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Rangers seem to have picked up Lavi's system pretty well.
The same team also went 52-24-6 and 47-22-13 under Gallant, so it's not a huge stretch that they would also succeed under Lavi. Lavi is a vibes coach, he takes the underlying structure and turns it up to 11, he doesn't really have much in the way of a deep Xs and Os system/style. We'll see where they are at 2 years from now.
 

finnishflash13

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Blues won a cup by firing a coach mid season. I have a lot of family members that are blue fans and they were talking about blowing the team up because they were that bad. Then they had a coaching change and it changed directions rather quick. While we have some holes on our team this system is clearly not working with the players we have. A new coach with a new system could possibly change the teams play drastically and maybe have a little more faith in our youth
that Blues team was also in the contender/pre-season Cup pick category of teams and was underperforming to a severe degree.
 
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drwpreds

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Rangers seem to have picked up Lavi's system pretty well.

Yep- I have posted about this many times before, but it continues to amaze how no one ever seems to want to give Lavi any credit as a coach. Bring up his name on here and it will be mostly negative comments. We had the greatest success we have ever had when he was here so for me I've got nothing bad to say about him. He may have a short shelf life at any given place, I won't argue that, but sign me up for any coach who can give us anything close to the success we had during his tenure
 

Predsanddead24

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Yep- I have posted about this many times before, but it continues to amaze how no one ever seems to want to give Lavi any credit as a coach. Bring up his name on here and it will be mostly negative comments. We had the greatest success we have ever had when he was here so for me I've got nothing bad to say about him. He may have a short shelf life at any given place, I won't argue that, but sign me up for any coach who can give us anything close to the success we had during his tenure
Yeah I've never really gotten the underselling of Lavi. You don't take three separate teams to a Cup Finals by simply being a ra-ra guy. I think his loose structure and letting players determine how to play to their own strengths is a really good approach and something we could use a lot more of right now.
 
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Softball99

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No one was saying he's bad... He has a shelf life because he's a motivator with minimal Xs and Os skill who uses the same assistants to compensate
 

Porter Stoutheart

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I think Lavi to some extent sold himself as a "rah-rah" guy in the NHL... however if you ever saw him at USA Hockey symposiums and whatnot, he was definitely not just that, he had real structure and concepts he championed. Maybe it was just too bad that he chained himself to an assistant/buddy in McCarthy who wasn't all that great? Now he has Housley back again and Dan Muse too, and that Rangers team might be a Cup contender.

Anyway, I'll take Lavi over both Hynes and Bruno, thanks.
 

Predsanddead24

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I think Lavi to some extent sold himself as a "rah-rah" guy in the NHL... however if you ever saw him at USA Hockey symposiums and whatnot, he was definitely not just that, he had real structure and concepts he championed. Maybe it was just too bad that he chained himself to an assistant/buddy in McCarthy who wasn't all that great? Now he has Housley back again and Dan Muse too, and that Rangers team might be a Cup contender.

Anyway, I'll take Lavi over both Hynes and Bruno, thanks.
Why is McCarthy considered bad? He was with Lavi for all of his best teams. I get he got a lot of the chagrin of the powerplay at the time but I think it's pretty clear now that the personnel is what kills our power play more than anything else.
 

Porter Stoutheart

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Why is McCarthy considered bad? He was with Lavi for all of his best teams. I get he got a lot of the chagrin of the powerplay at the time but I think it's pretty clear now that the personnel is what kills our power play more than anything else.
Haha, I don't even really remember. I only remember thinking at some point that McCarthy was woeful/evil... but maybe that wasn't fair either, it is just something that sticks in my head and I'm too lazy to try to unpack. :D
 

Kat Predator

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I think Lavi to some extent sold himself as a "rah-rah" guy in the NHL... however if you ever saw him at USA Hockey symposiums and whatnot, he was definitely not just that, he had real structure and concepts he championed. Maybe it was just too bad that he chained himself to an assistant/buddy in McCarthy who wasn't all that great? Now he has Housley back again and Dan Muse too, and that Rangers team might be a Cup contender.

Anyway, I'll take Lavi over both Hynes and Bruno, thanks.
It's incongruent to say he has no systems and look at his track record of success.

His system may be simplified and have some flexibility, but compare that to Bruno who keeps trying to shuffle the square pegs for his round hole system that the players can't seem to figure out. "It's just a matter of time" sounds more like a absence of effective coaching than does reaching the Cup finals multiple times with multiple teams.
 

Mogo

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This is not to troll but.. I told you so.. There's a reason Panthers let him go after a record season. The man cant make any adjustments if things dont work
 
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Bringer of Jollity

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This is not to troll but.. I told you so.. There's a reason Panthers let him go after a record season. The man cant make any adjustments if things dont work
Thank you so much for the "not to troll" "I told you so." This adds some significant new information to our current discussion here on the board. I know that deciding whether to make such a post on an opposing team's board, right before playing them, when they are one of the worst teams in the league probably was difficult since most opposing fans of shit teams don't take kindly to gloating. But you had the courage and conviction to make this post and share your valuable insight with us anyway. Well done and thank you for your service.

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Thank you so much for the "not to troll" "I told you so." This adds some significant new information to our current discussion here on the board. I know that deciding whether to make such a post on an opposing team's board, right before playing them, when they are one of the worst teams in the league probably was difficult since most opposing fans of shit teams don't take kindly to gloating. But you had the courage and conviction to make this post and share your valuable insight with us anyway. Well done and thank you for your service.

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That's so sweet, you sent him a heart.
 
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Predsanddead24

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Honestly as much as I've been hating on Bruno I think the bigger factor in the Panthers success was bringing in Tkachuk rather than the coaching change.
 
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Thank you so much for the "not to troll" "I told you so." This adds some significant new information to our current discussion here on the board. I know that deciding whether to make such a post on an opposing team's board, right before playing them, when they are one of the worst teams in the league probably was difficult since most opposing fans of shit teams don't take kindly to gloating. But you had the courage and conviction to make this post and share your valuable insight with us anyway. Well done and thank you for your service.

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you have some issues man, that was very rude.
 

Bringer of Jollity

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you have some issues man, that was very rude.
You have no idea...

But yes, it was incredibly unkind.

And if you are coming on to another team's board to "not troll," it's not that hard.

"Hey Preds fans, sorry to see the early season hasn't been going well. I had had some concerns about Bruno's hiring because of his inability to make adjustments in Florida,, and it looks like some of those same things are hurting the Preds so far. Well, good luck tonight and hope things improve for you (just wait til after tonight!)."
 

Armourboy

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You have no idea...

But yes, it was incredibly unkind.

And if you are coming on to another team's board to "not troll," it's not that hard.

"Hey Preds fans, sorry to see the early season hasn't been going well. I had had some concerns about Bruno's hiring because of his inability to make adjustments in Florida,, and it looks like some of those same things are hurting the Preds so far. Well, good luck tonight and hope things improve for you (just wait til after tonight!)."
I don't recognize the name even, so I doubt he even said anything on these boards to start with. Just another ass looking to get his jollies twisting the dagger.

Amazing what happens to fanbases when their team is suddenly good for 3-4 years. They forget all about the garbage years and listening to crap from other fanbases.
 

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