Value of: What would Carey Price realistically cost?

[DrDangles]

More than any goalie should ever be worth. It's basically the easiest position to band-aid.

 

[WesMcCauley]

This is a ridicolous discussion. No way in hell Habs will get close to Crosby,Mcdavid, Tavares etc for Price. Goalies dont have that kind of value. No way you would get some of the elite players. I would argue that Matt Murrays value is close to Price based on his age and cap hit etc.

Schneider got traded for what? 9th pick?
Make it the 5th in a good draft, Add a solid prospect and you might find som takers.
Edm fans offering Draisatl, puljujarvi+1st Are crazy and im not close to beeing en Edm fan. If Price was signed longterm at 6,5 sure he would cost more but the guy should get 9+ million when he signs a new deal and giving up so many assets and then breaking the bank when resigning him is a huge overpayment

 

[WesMcCauley]

Maybe Nashville and NYI start discussions there, the rest easily turn it down. Pittsburgh and San Jose hang up laughing.

All of the teams would turn it down. They Are all ridicolous overpayment for a goalie 2 seasons away from UFA Who will get 9+ mill guaranteed. Price is great dont get me wrong but the difference between him and Bishop, Holtby, Crawford, Lundquist etc isnt enough for teams to throw away top end talent to get him. Would never happen

 

[Pongs21]

Nothing, as he realistically would not be available.

 

[Mad Brills*]

better question:

Will he break 10 million on his next deal?

 

[BlueSeal]

Depends if Price wants out of MTL or not. If your goalie gets injured and the team falls apart, that's a very big bad red flag for a goalie of Price's caliber to see. Why hasn't the Habs won the Cup with him between the pipes yet? Gee, I wonder lol.

If Price wants out of MTL, it would be entirely on him to say what team he wants to go to and the I don't think the trade value would be as much as everyone thinks it would be; you're signing a rental, granted the best rental out there, but still -- a rental.

The only reason you'd go after Price is in you're in Win Right Now mode on a team that's got the depth and management to take the team deep. Otherwise, why waste your time?

 

[BLNY]

Completely disagree.

A generational talent goalie cant win a cup without a solid all around team in front of him. Hasek found that out the hard way for years in Buffalo.

A team can and has won a cup with a just OK goalie in net.

One thing every NHL cup winner has had is Norris caliber dman and/or a bona fide 1C. THOSE are the positions you cant do without

If you go back to my post, you'll see I mentioned elite goal tending even if only for a brief period (ie the playoffs).

You can come up with teams that might have won with an average goalie, but I'd wager that goalie played the best of his career in that run. Hasek isn't a great example because he and the Sabres got hosed in 99. IMO, he should have won the Conn Smythe that year too.

I can come up with instances where average teams won on the back of elite goal tending.

Roy in 1986. That Habs team was far from elite. It was a hard working team with grit and some skill, and a mix of youth and vets. Roy stood on his head that Spring. Having lived my formative years through that period, I'd argue that the teams from 1987 through 1989 were more talented. They had better regular seasons, but Roy wasn't nearly as good and in some cases was down right bad. For a period there Moog completely had his number.

Roy in 1993. This one's a bit of an asterisk. That team was leading the Adams up to the last month of the season. The faltered down the stretch, and finished behind Boston and Quebec. Still, they finished with more than 100 points (in an 84 game season).

Murray in 2016. Murray stole a number of games for the Pens. After Kessel, he was the most pivotal player for the Pens imo.

The Kings got incredibly clutch play from Quick. The Hawks, more often than not, got great play from Crawford. There were some instances where they went to their back up briefly. Darling comes to mind. But, these deep teams, with multiple cups in the last 6 years, still needed elite play from their goalies to win.

Present day Montreal can go deep in the playoffs and have a 100 point season on the back of Price. Replace him with Ovi or Crosby and they might be a playoff team. They're not going deep though.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

I believe Price will retire as a Montreal Canadian when his career is over.

But for ***** and giggles though, I'll make an EA NHL 2017 offer from the Flyers for Price.

To Philadelphia : G Carey Price and C David Desharnais

To Montreal : C Claude Giroux, LD Sam Morin, LW Taylor Leier, C Pascal Laberge, G Anthony Stolarz, a 1st round pick in 2018 and a 4th round pick in 2017.

Philadelphia would have to trade Mason or Neuvirth in a separate transaction after this fantasy trade was made.
Also Price would have to come to terms with Philly on a new 7 year contract extension before the trade is finalized.

 

[Byrddog]

Nothing, as he realistically would not be available.

Thats absurd everyone is available Mr. Weber meet Mr. Subban.

The question is what would a team be willing to pay for a elite goalie with two years left on his contract. And it would not be as hefty as many here thing. Now if Price were locked up til age 34 at 6.5 then your looking at a different animal.

For two years of Price I would say a young top6 potential player a goalie prospect and a pic and I doubt it would be a 1st.

A locked Price til 34 then your taklin about some real return. A top 6 proven young player a A goalie prospect a 1st and another player to even it out.

More important why would the Habs even think of doing this they are in a win now or real darn soon mode with Weber. They traded 4 years of elite D youth. So I expect next summer they start negations to extend Price.

 

[WesMcCauley]

I believe Price will retire as a Montreal Canadian when his career is over.

But for ***** and giggles though, I'll make an EA NHL 2017 offer from the Flyers for Price.

To Philadelphia : G Carey Price and C David Desharnais

To Montreal : C Claude Giroux, LD Sam Morin, LW Taylor Leier, C Pascal Laberge, G Anthony Stolarz, a 1st round pick in 2018 and a 4th round pick in 2017.

Philadelphia would have to trade Mason or Neuvirth in a separate transaction after this fantasy trade was made.

You do know Price only has 2 years left on his deal. Would you give up Giroux+ for that. I dont like Philly(as a NYR fan) but thats a huge overpayment from you guys. Bishop is pretty much the same goalie just a a tiny step behind Price and he can be had for not much compared to Price.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Let's say one GM has gone mad and wants to trade the farm for Carey Price. what would he offer?

If Marc Bergevin is crazy enough to trade him what would be his demand?

Probably a lot more them what any GM is willing to surrender more then likely.

 

[eFFeRR]

Not sure why people are saying goalies aren't worth that much..

Price is the sole reason why Montreal is even a playoff team. Look at last season as the perfect example. Price will step in this season, and if healthy lead the Canadiens to a top 3 finish in the East. One single player (Crosby, McDavid.. etc) cannot do that himself.

Because of the importance of the goalie, one single goalie can do that.

One of the reasons why goalies don't get traded for much is because there is a huge gap between the best 2 or 3 goalies and the rest. There are not a lot of goalies who are capable of putting a team on their backs and carrying them. I fully expect Schneider to be able to do that this season now that there is a little more talent in Jersey. Schneider wasn't capable of that at the time he was traded, hence why he got traded for the 9th overall pick.

If Montreal was stupid enough to trade Price, I would atleast expect to get back a top 10 1st, A+ prospect and NHL ready prospect.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

You do know Price only has 2 years left on his deal. Would you give up Giroux+ for that. I dont like Philly(as a NYR fan) but thats a huge overpayment from you guys. Bishop is pretty much the same goalie just a a tiny step behind Price and he can be had for not much compared to Price.

I would want a 6-7 contract extension.

Price would have to play out the last 2 years of Montreal contract and then 6-7 years of philly contract.

In a real would situation though none of these trades would never happen because Price or Giroux ain't going no where.

 

[puckluck33*]

Some people just ..DON'T GET IT....PROBABLY MOST OF THESE KIDS ON HERE IN THEIR TEENS AND TWENTIES.....Carey Price will make an 9 year family decision on July 1st 2017......Molson will offer Price a max 8 year deal 9-10 per,he will either sign it,and be a Montreal Canadien for the rest of his career or not sign it......and he will then be traded....100% guaranteed....CASE CLOSED....If he does not sign the contract he will be traded within the week......Carey Price will control where he goes no team is giving away 2-3 of their top young players for 1 year of Price,he has to agree to an 8 year contract extension for example with San Jose or Colorado,then you will get a ton back in return,it will be a blockbuster trade.

 

[1865]

His contract status is a concern, but i imagine if it was us it'd take Mason + Sanheim + pick which is an absolute no go from our end.

 

[A4T1L6]

Top 20 goalie
First line forward/defenseman
Top prospect

Andersen
JVR
Kapanen

 

[Legend123]

More like Montreal would never turn down Tavares+Hamonic for him.

Come back to reality, bud.

oh ur an islanders fan, NVM then.

Price >>>>Tavares

Why would the habs ever do Price for Tavares lmao

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

Roy 1993.

They still had Damphousse as the 1C.

While Roy was the most important player on that team, it doesnt get done without a top line center like Damphousse who put up 23 pts in 20 playoff games

 

[northeastern]

I think the correct answer is i have absolute no clue. Extremely hard to guess what it would take.
Also have to remember Price is an UFA after the 17/18 season. Is 29 and will get a huge contract.

I wonder if he will take a home town discount. Watching him hit the market would be very entertaining.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

If you go back to my post, you'll see I mentioned elite goal tending even if only for a brief period (ie the playoffs).

You can come up with teams that might have won with an average goalie, but I'd wager that goalie played the best of his career in that run. Hasek isn't a great example because he and the Sabres got hosed in 99. IMO, he should have won the Conn Smythe that year too.

I can come up with instances where average teams won on the back of elite goal tending.

Roy in 1986. That Habs team was far from elite. It was a hard working team with grit and some skill, and a mix of youth and vets. Roy stood on his head that Spring. Having lived my formative years through that period, I'd argue that the teams from 1987 through 1989 were more talented. They had better regular seasons, but Roy wasn't nearly as good and in some cases was down right bad. For a period there Moog completely had his number.

Roy in 1993. This one's a bit of an asterisk. That team was leading the Adams up to the last month of the season. The faltered down the stretch, and finished behind Boston and Quebec. Still, they finished with more than 100 points (in an 84 game season).

Murray in 2016. Murray stole a number of games for the Pens. After Kessel, he was the most pivotal player for the Pens imo.

The Kings got incredibly clutch play from Quick. The Hawks, more often than not, got great play from Crawford. There were some instances where they went to their back up briefly. Darling comes to mind. But, these deep teams, with multiple cups in the last 6 years, still needed elite play from their goalies to win.

Present day Montreal can go deep in the playoffs and have a 100 point season on the back of Price. Replace him with Ovi or Crosby and they might be a playoff team. They're not going deep though.

Even in 2010, Niemi wasnt instilling much confidence for Chicago. He was about as average as you can get for a playoff goalie and he got a cup because the team in front of him was so loaded

 

[WesMcCauley]

I wonder if he will take a home town discount. Watching him hit the market would be very entertaining.

Easily 10 mill if he hits UFA and keeps beeing as good as he has been the last couple of years! Would be a bidding war to get him!

 

[kingdok]

Andersen
JVR
Kapanen

Thibault
Rucinsky
Kovalenko

 

[Howboutthempanthers]

If you go back to my post, you'll see I mentioned elite goal tending even if only for a brief period (ie the playoffs).

You can come up with teams that might have won with an average goalie, but I'd wager that goalie played the best of his career in that run. Hasek isn't a great example because he and the Sabres got hosed in 99. IMO, he should have won the Conn Smythe that year too.

I can come up with instances where average teams won on the back of elite goal tending.

Roy in 1986. That Habs team was far from elite. It was a hard working team with grit and some skill, and a mix of youth and vets. Roy stood on his head that Spring. Having lived my formative years through that period, I'd argue that the teams from 1987 through 1989 were more talented. They had better regular seasons, but Roy wasn't nearly as good and in some cases was down right bad. For a period there Moog completely had his number.

Roy in 1993. This one's a bit of an asterisk. That team was leading the Adams up to the last month of the season. The faltered down the stretch, and finished behind Boston and Quebec. Still, they finished with more than 100 points (in an 84 game season).

Murray in 2016. Murray stole a number of games for the Pens. After Kessel, he was the most pivotal player for the Pens imo.

The Kings got incredibly clutch play from Quick. The Hawks, more often than not, got great play from Crawford. There were some instances where they went to their back up briefly. Darling comes to mind. But, these deep teams, with multiple cups in the last 6 years, still needed elite play from their goalies to win.

Present day Montreal can go deep in the playoffs and have a 100 point season on the back of Price. Replace him with Ovi or Crosby and they might be a playoff team. They're not going deep though.

The Roy examples are from a different era. And until you start to see mostly big name goaltenders winning the cup, you won't get GMs to give a lot for them in trades.

 

[Legend123]

The Roy examples are from a different era. And until you start to see mostly big name goaltenders winning the cup, you won't get GMs to give a lot for them in trades.

Price has all the respect in the hockey world. If he's in the trade market, there will be several teams really interested in him.

 

[Legend123]

This is a ridicolous discussion. No way in hell Habs will get close to Crosby,Mcdavid, Tavares etc for Price. Goalies dont have that kind of value. No way you would get some of the elite players. I would argue that Matt Murrays value is close to Price based on his age and cap hit etc.

Schneider got traded for what? 9th pick?
Make it the 5th in a good draft, Add a solid prospect and you might find som takers.
Edm fans offering Draisatl, puljujarvi+1st Are crazy and im not close to beeing en Edm fan. If Price was signed longterm at 6,5 sure he would cost more but the guy should get 9+ million when he signs a new deal and giving up so many assets and then breaking the bank when resigning him is a huge overpayment

lol so much bs here. Price gets a lot more than Tavares.
Price = Murray u say?? Lol thats like saying Galchenyuk has similar value to Ovechkin based on age and cap hit
Schneider was traded as a backup (Van). Price is the best goalie in the world and yeah hes a starter if u werent aware. Montreal will extend their generational talent on a max contract. 10-12M AAV, 8 years.
Price is worth hell lot more than Pulji, Draistil, and a first, which will very likely be a late rounder.