JuJu Mobb
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What would be you analysis of Brett Hull and why do you think he became a great hockey player despite being drafted in the 6th round?
This was a key component to building his success, having a father and an uncle who were pretty darn good hockey players. I also suspect that Brett had underlying motivations to succeed & show his father he could be a star as well.... Great athletic genes.
To note, if you are to pick being a one trick pony at something, stopping puck or shooting them in the net would not be bad pick, lot of coach would want a lot of the people using their wish on being the best skater around I am sure, but if you want to make a lot of money in your career....He has 3 seasons with 70 or more goals. Only Wayne Gretzky has more with 4. He also has the third highest (highest non Gretzky) single season goals total in NHL history with 86. Whether he is labeled a one trick pony or not there is no denying that this is special stuff. That’s enough right there to be a great hockey player.
I always thought his passing was underrated during his Detroit days. He had good assist numbers for a 40 year old playing during the DPE
I am not sure anyone as a strong case for a 3 consecutive years stretch with better goalscoring than Brett Hull.
Yes that why I did put him in this comp:the obvious contender is gretzky, 1982-84
the two highest goal scoring seasons of all time and outscores bossy 250 to 175. so averages 25 goals a year more than a guy with a greatest goalscorer all time case, implausible as it might be
Yes senior has an excellent argument to have been has good, too close to call, better ?Hull 66-68 is a contender
Outscored #2 Mikita by 43%. Outscored #10 Beliveau by 108%.
Yes that why I did put him in this comp:
peak Hull outscore everyone by 44% (prime Steve Yzerman and almost doubled (96%) number 10 young Joe Sakic
08-10 peak Ovechkin outscore everyone by 25% (Kovalchuck the mark) the 10 best Eric Staal by 60%
82-84 Gretzky outscore evreyone by 42% (Bossy) the 10 best (Messier) by 85%
71-73 Esposito outscore everyone by 59% (Cournoyer) and the 10th best (Orr) by 91%
Gretzky has an argument, but not a particularly good one, he has a really good argument to say same tier, too close to call, but better stretch ? it is a valid but weak one.
And do you think that 90-91-92 Gretzky being 15th in the league in goals is a sign of a solid era top end talent wise ? that still 2 season of pre turning 31 pre-Suter Gretzky we are talking about, the argument that 90-92 was easier enough to dominate that it would exclude Hull from that conversation, Gretzky 3 years stretch being clearly better is a valid one, but a weak one.and while 96% over young sakic sounds great it sounds less great when you consider that only four goals separated young sakic from old gretzky
Great comparison.Brett Hull was a legendary goal-scorer, he loved scoring goals (that's the only aspect of hockey that he loved), and he focused on scoring goals. All of this could also be said of Mike Bossy.
Hull and Bossy were always thinking about scoring; getting in position, finding space, getting the puck off quickly.
Hull had a great shot, and could play with other talented players. He could fit in and do his thing.
Great hockey sense, great understanding.
Great athletic genes.
Both were definitely very blunt. Hull seemed about ten times more fun than Bossy did though. Still, respect to Bossy. He even took money off Michael Jordan in this video I never saw before two days ago.Great comparison.
They were both extremely confident and brutally honest about their games. I remember Bossy matter of factly saying he should have won the Smythe the year Goring got it. Hull was equally up front about his abilities
Both were definitely very blunt. Hull seemed about ten times more fun than Bossy did though. Still, respect to Bossy. He even took money off Michael Jordan in this video I never saw before two days ago.