What is your most unpopular Rangers opinion?

[Maximus]

I've accomplished more than the Rangers.

Uggggg....really??...

Narcissist much?...

 

[Edge]

I think the Rangers might have one of the more respected histories and reputations in hockey, but they wouldn't be viewed as one of the more successful ventures in terms of accomplishments.

And there's a difference between those concepts.

Frankly, a lot of the original six teams have struggled with success for prolonged periods of time. I would say one of the differences is that teams like Detroit and Chicago changed that narrative quite a bit with their success in the late 90s/early 2000s, and then 2010s respectively.

The Rangers haven't had that prolonged success window, though that's what they're shooting for in the 2020s.

 

[Machinehead]

I'm guessing because you mentioned the Knicks in the same breath as the Rangers, he felt like he had carte blanche....just a guess you'll have to ask him!!

They're closer to the Knicks than franchises who are the class of their sports.

But sure, they're not the Knicks. I'm sorry.

They are perfectly mediocre and sort of just exist and I'm well within my rights to want more than that.

Uggggg....really??...

Narcissist much?...

You brought it up. I'm in the top 5 now. What are the Rangers top 5 at?

 

[Machinehead]

I think the Rangers might have one of the more respected histories and reputations in hockey, but they wouldn't be viewed as one of the more successful ventures in terms of accomplishments.

And there's a difference between those concepts.

Frankly, a lot of the original six teams have struggled with success for prolonged periods of time. I would say one of the differences is that teams like Detroit and Chicago changed that narrative quite a bit with their success in the late 90s/early 2000s, and then 2010s respectively.

The Rangers haven't had that prolonged success window, though that's what they're shooting for in the 2020s.

And as I alluded to, that first concept isn't worth the keyboard I'm typing on.

The only concept that matters in professional sports is hardware.

 

[True Blue]

If you wanna support the Rangers, that's fine. I'm guilty as charged.

I'm just sick of hearing about our history, prestige, standards, and God forbid success. We have none of those things.

Wait. The Rangers do not have a history? They are not considered to be a prestigious franchise and do not have high standards?

What would you like to see them evidence to you that they have high standards? Not hiring Quinn?

And success? Last few years of rebuilding aside, have you seen the run that they were no? Granted, no Cup and that stings. But they have not had a lack of success in the last 10-12 years.

 

[Machinehead]

Wait. The Rangers do not have a history? They are not considered to be a prestigious franchise and do not have high standards?

Nope

What would you like to see them evidence to you that they have high standards? Not hiring Quinn?

A concerted effort to change values that haven't led to championships.

It's the same old Rangers caring about the same old things.

And success? Last few years of rebuilding aside, have you seen the run that they were no? Granted, no Cup and that stings. But they have not had a lack of success in the last 10-12 years.

End of discussion.

 

[Edge]

And as I alluded to, that first concept isn't worth the keyboard I'm typing on.

The only concept that matters in professional sports is hardware.

Ultimately, yes, and the Rangers would rank 7th in that category.

As of their last cup, and before a couple of dynasties, they were 5th.

If they can find their own window like the Blackhawks and Pens, they have a shot to climb into a tie for third.

 

[Thirty One]

You brought it up. I'm in the top 5 now. What are the Rangers top 5 at?

Games played. Which is kind of list post count in that it says nothing about quality.

 

[Edge]

I've accomplished more than the Rangers.

I really don't think this is the battle plan to go with MH.

 

[True Blue]

Nope

Do you know how long they have been in the league for? Do you know what the definition of "history" is? And you have interviewed all NHL players to see if they are considered prestigious or not?

Have you seen the type of players that they sign? D

I've accomplished more than the Rangers.

Really? You have won professional sports championsips?

A concerted effort to change values that haven't led to championships.

It's the same old Rangers caring about the same old things.

What evidences that they are not trying?

End of discussion.

It is rather sad that they had one of the best periods of success in franchise history, but have no Cup. But you must be completely miserable watching any sports team if the sole definition of success is the championship.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

You brought it up. I'm in the top 5 now. What are the Rangers top 5 at?

LMFAO, top 5 what bitch?!

Top 5 poster of HF by quantity? I haven't taken you seriously since the bangwagoning you pulled off couple of years back, but holy shit dude, your self-adulation is so annoying.

 

[Machinehead]

I really don't think this is the battle plan to go with MH.

It wasn't a serious statement just like "yeah well you post a lot!" isn't a serious rebuttal.

 

[Machinehead]

LMFAO, top 5 what *****?!

Top 5 poster of HF by quantity? I haven't taken you seriously since the bangwagoning you pulled off couple of years back, but holy **** dude, your self-adulation is so annoying.

Again, fake news.

 

[Machinehead]

But you must be completely miserable watching any sports team if the sole definition of success is the championship.

*whispers*

No because my other teams win them.

 

[Machinehead]

Ultimately, yes, and the Rangers would rank 7th in that category.

As of their last cup, and before a couple of dynasties, they were 5th.

If they can find their own window like the Blackhawks and Pens, they have a shot to climb into a tie for third.

In total, yes, but you have to take into account how long we've been around. Most people consider that something in our favor whereas I think of it as a strike against us.

The Islanders and Devils have the same and fewer Cups respectively and have objectively been more successful so far.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Again, fake news.

What do you mean fake news? You're trying to say you didn't bandwagon back then? Please.

Tampa specially, that was cringefest 2017 or whenever the f*** that was.

 

[Machinehead]

What do you mean fake news? You're trying to say you didn't bandwagon back then? Please.

No, I absolutely never at any point in my life stopped being a Rangers fan.

What the actual f*** are you talking about?

 

[Edge]

So if we look at the NHL as a billion dollar industry, the Rangers have one of the highest values in the league, and have tended to rank anywhere from 5th-7th in championship rankings over the last 25 years.

They're not the most successful franchise, they're not unsuccessful. They're somewhere in the upper tier when looking at a variety of factors.

Depending on when a snapshot is taken, they potentially rank higher than other times.

 

[Machinehead]

So if we look at the NHL as a billion dollar industry, the Rangers have one of the highest values in the league, and have tended to rank anywhere from 5th-7th in championship rankings over the last 25 years.

They're not the most successful franchise, they're not unsuccessful. They're somewhere in the upper tier when looking at a variety of factors.

Depending on when a snapshot is taken, they potentially rank higher than other times.

Nah.

Sorry, I can't look at one title in eight decades and think to myself "this is upper tier."

 

[Machinehead]

Tampa specially, that was cringefest 2017 or whenever the **** that was.

That wasn't me.

I f***ing hate Tampa.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

No, I absolutely never at any point in my life stopped being a Rangers fan.

What the actual **** are you talking about?

It certainly came across as throwing yourself at anything that promised success back then. On the off chance that you did it to jinx Tampa, I'll retract that part and say good job. But I'm pretty sure you didn't.

And "stopped being a Rangers fan" is exactly the way that came across. Fine, you say you never stopped being a Rangers fan at heart, I'll have to take your word for it.

Also good job on deflecting, again, what top 5 is you in?

 

[Edge]

In total, yes, but you have to take into account how long we've been around. Most people consider that something in our favor whereas I think of it as a strike against us.

The Islanders and Devils have the same and fewer Cups respectively and have objectively been more successful so far.

I think that's somewhat subjective.

The Islanders had one 5-7 years stretch where they were successful; and they've been a tire before and after.

The Devils are arguably in the same boat. Both teams have nearly moved over the years, and aren't huge financial successes despite their window of excellence.

The Rangers original six peers have been less successful, or more successful, depending on when you look. Circa 1995, not so much. Circa 2015, they have the advantage.

The Habs were untouched in this sport through 1993. In the 27 years since, nothing. Then we have to factor in how the league was run for many years with junior rights and other aspects, and it paints a very complicated picture when judging them and the Leafs, with the latter especially struggling since the rule changes.

Then there's the matter of the whether one values short-term success in isolation, compared to longer-term success. Or how does one value draft fortune (the Pens) compared to a team that is less fortunate?

I think there's many moving parts here at work.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

That wasn't me.

I ****ing hate Tampa.

I'll need an arbitrator here, because I'm sure I missed stuff and at the same time I'm certain you did.

I can still see the playoffs soviet style avatar you were rocking back then. I'd even understand that part, those playoffs avatars were the shit.

 

[Machinehead]

I'll need an arbitrator here, because I'm sure I missed stuff and at the same time I'm certain you did.

I can still see the playoffs soviet style avatar you were rocking back then. I'd even understand that part, those playoffs avatars were the ****.

Yes, again, I used another team's avatar to support my friends in a year the Rangers didn't even make the playoffs.

Sharpen the f***ing guillotine.

 

[Machinehead]

I think that's somewhat subjective.

The Islanders had one 5-7 years stretch where they were successful; and they've been a tire before and after.

The Devils are arguably in the same boat. Both teams have nearly moved over the years, and aren't huge financial successes despite their window of excellence.

The Rangers original six peers have been less successful, or more successful, depending on when you look. Circa 1995, not so much. Circa 2015, they have the advantage.

The Habs were untouched in this sport through 1993. In the 27 years since, nothing. Then we have to factor in how the league was run for many years with junior rights and other aspects, and it paints a very complicated picture when judging them and the Leafs, with the latter especially struggling since the rule changes.

Then there's the matter of the whether one values short-term success in isolation, compared to longer-term success. Or how does one value draft fortune (the Pens) compared to a team that is less fortunate?

I think there's many moving parts here at work.

There's many moving parts but 1 for 80 is a rate that has to improve.

This is not a hot take.