What about a thread where we praise GOOD ref/war room calls?

[Cursed Lemon]

Case in point - last night in Colorado, the Avalanche scored a goal off of a hand pass that was disallowed after review. The puck actually struck Kyle Quincey's skate after being touched by the Av player's glove, but because that did not constitute possession, the resulting goal was waved off.

This was a good, by-the-book call IMHOtep. The ref signaled a goal on the ice, but the reviewers were smart enough to catch this and call it according to the rules.

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[Sheros expletives]

Good call

 

[SladeWilson23]

IMO, the Avs one should have counted, but the Devils one should NOT have counted.

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

because there shouldn't be praise for simply doing your job. The job of the war room is to get the call right.

Getting a call correct should be par for the course, not an exception.

Nobody gave me a pat on the back for sending a fax 2 minutes ago because its unnecessary. However if I didn't send that fax, some people would not have been happy.

EDIT: also for being on HFBoards at work...

 

[Captain Bowie]

because there shouldn't be praise for simply doing your job. The job of the war room is to get the call right.

Getting a call correct should be par for the course, not an exception.

Nobody gave me a pat on the back for sending a fax 2 minutes ago because its unnecessary. However if I didn't send that fax, some people would not have been happy.

EDIT: also for being on HFBoards at work...

What a sad world you live in...

Maybe not every day, but every good boss I've ever had has made a point to tell me I'm good a good job if I pull off a difficult task or had a good stretch without making any mistakes. And of course positive reinforcement feels good.

I don't think we are talking about cheering them on for calling an obvious trip, but doing what is necessary to get a tough call right.

I mean, we praise players for "doing their jobs" all the time. Coutnless "So-and-So is on fire right now" or "Goalie A has allowed 10 goals in 12 games".

 

[S E P H]

Case in point - last night in Colorado, the Avalanche scored a goal off of a hand pass that was disallowed after review. The puck actually struck Kyle Quincey's skate after being touched by the Av player's glove, but because that did not constitute possession, the resulting goal was waved off.

This was a good, by-the-book call IMHOtep. The ref signaled a goal on the ice, but the reviewers were smart enough to catch this and call it according to the rules.

The call on the ice was good, but the rule is idiotic.

Why the hell would NHL executives talk about making nets wider and goaltending equipment smaller, but have a rule which disallows a goal after going off any part of the opposing player via a hand pass. It makes no ****in sense to me and freakin Wings won by 1-0. That is the most frustrating part.

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

What a sad world you live in...

Maybe not every day, but every good boss I've ever had has made a point to tell me I'm good a good job if I pull off a difficult task or had a good stretch without making any mistakes. And of course positive reinforcement feels good.

I don't think we are talking about cheering them on for calling an obvious trip, but doing what is necessary to get a tough call right.

I mean, we praise players for "doing their jobs" all the time. Coutnless "So-and-So is on fire right now" or "Goalie A has allowed 10 goals in 12 games".

the players job is a competition against other players, so it doesn't really apply in this situation. The war room isn't competing against other war rooms to get the most calls right.

also I agree with the fact that difficult tasks that are above and beyond expectations should be recognized in some way, but the whole purpose of the war room is to get difficult calls right. IMO getting a call correct does not go above and beyond the expectations.

 

[Captain Bowie]

The call on the ice was good, but the rule is idiotic.

Why the hell would NHL executives talk about making nets wider and goaltending equipment smaller, but have a rule which disallows a goal after going off any part of the opposing player via a hand pass. It makes no ****in sense to me and freakin Wings won by 1-0. That is the most frustrating part.

Because you can't throw the puck around the ice. Pretty simple.

 

[S E P H]

Because you can't throw the puck around the ice. Pretty simple.

How many plays of the one yesterday results in a goal? To me it is very rare to see that happen, I am not saying that NHL should allow every hand pass bounce off opposing players.

I just don't see how NHL wants more goal scoring by doing some radical and stupid stuff like I mentioned in my last post and not allow a good bounce for a team to be counted.

 

[Lobstertainment]

What about a thread where we praise GOOD ref/war room calls?

 

[Captain Bowie]

How many plays of the one yesterday results in a goal? To me it is very rare to see that happen, I am not saying that NHL should allow every hand pass bounce off opposing players.

I just don't see how NHL wants more goal scoring by doing some radical and stupid stuff like I mentioned in my last post and not allow a good bounce for a team to be counted.

But if it's so rare, why bother allowing it?

Point is it isn't supposed to be easy to move the puck around the ice. You are supposed to use your stick. That is as fundamental to hockey as the ice itself. If guys can just chuck the puck around the ice, the game would essentially become basketball on ice.

And since when is reducing goalie equipment such a radical idea? It was that way just 20 years ago.

 

[Captain Bowie]

the players job is a competition against other players, so it doesn't really apply in this situation. The war room isn't competing against other war rooms to get the most calls right.

also I agree with the fact that difficult tasks that are above and beyond expectations should be recognized in some way, but the whole purpose of the war room is to get difficult calls right. IMO getting a call correct does not go above and beyond the expectations.

Their job is difficult. So what if some people want to praise them for it. Why does that bother you?

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

Their job is difficult. So what if some people want to praise them for it. Why does that bother you?

It doesn't bother me.

This is a forum where we share opinions

My opinion is that they shouldn't be praised.

if you don't know why I think this way, then I suggest you read my previous posts.

case closed.

 

[Captain Bowie]

It doesn't bother me.

This is a forum where we share opinions

My opinion is that they shouldn't be praised.

if you don't know why I think this way, then I suggest you read my previous posts.

case closed.

Fair enough. But this thread may continue to exist, and we may continue to praise tough calls gotten right. Feel free to skip this thread if we do so.

 

[HanSolo]

Praising people for doing their jobs right? What a concept.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

For some reason, fans expect the refs to be perfect.

I'd love some perfect players on the Rangers.

 

[Rackham]

As much as that call angered me, it was a good call.

 

[StoneHands]

because there shouldn't be praise for simply doing your job. The job of the war room is to get the call right.

Getting a call correct should be par for the course, not an exception.

Nobody gave me a pat on the back for sending a fax 2 minutes ago because its unnecessary. However if I didn't send that fax, some people would not have been happy.

EDIT: also for being on HFBoards at work...

This. Doing your job should not get praise, especially when you actually didn't make the correct call in the first place and someone else had to correct you with the help of slow motion instant replay.

If he would have made the no goal call originally, I would give him a lot of credit, but not when they reverse a call that we can all see was incorrect when he originally called it a goal.

What a sad world you live in...

Maybe not every day, but every good boss I've ever had has made a point to tell me I'm good a good job if I pull off a difficult task or had a good stretch without making any mistakes. And of course positive reinforcement feels good.

I don't think we are talking about cheering them on for calling an obvious trip, but doing what is necessary to get a tough call right.

I mean, we praise players for "doing their jobs" all the time. Coutnless "So-and-So is on fire right now" or "Goalie A has allowed 10 goals in 12 games".

Well, we aren't the ref's boss so that's not our job. I wouldn't expect to send a fax and walk outside and see some random guy in the parking lot and have him praise me for my faxing skills. If I send a fax at work my boss might say thank you, or good job, but certainly not if he had to remind me to send the fax. Maybe the head of officials, had the ref made the right call in the first place (which he didn't), would have let the ref know he did a good job.

Think of refs as a tax auditor. Their jobs are both literally to stop people from cheating. Sometimes they catch people, and sometimes they don't. If you got audited for not filing your taxes would you call up the IRS and let them know what a great job they did at not letting it slip through the cracks?

 

[Captain Bowie]

This. Doing your job should not get praise, especially when you actually didn't make the correct call in the first place and someone else had to correct you with the help of slow motion instant replay.

If he would have made the no goal call originally, I would give him a lot of credit, but not when they reverse a call that we can all see was incorrect when he originally called it a goal.



Well, we aren't the ref's boss so that's not our job. I wouldn't expect to send a fax and walk outside and see some random guy in the parking lot and have him praise me for my faxing skills. If I send a fax at work my boss might say thank you, or good job, but certainly not if he had to remind me to send the fax. Maybe the head of officials, had the ref made the right call in the first place (which he didn't), would have let the ref know he did a good job.

Think of refs as a tax auditor. Their jobs are both literally to stop people from cheating. If you got audited for not filing your taxes correctly would you call up the IRS and let them know what a great job they did at not letting it slip through the cracks?

So I bet you never praise a player for making a good play? It's their job and your not their boss....

 

[weastern bias]

Unfortunately, it doesn't happen often enough to be thread worthy

NHL refs suck, and they continue to suck

 

[StoneHands]

So I bet you never praise a player for making a good play? It's their job and your not their boss....

I'm watching the game specifically to watch the players do amazing things that I could never imagine being able to do. Would you walk into an Art Museum and say "this painting is nice and all but can we give some love to the frame?"

And as I said, if the call had been made correctly at the time, it would have been a great call. I can specifically remember a couple weeks ago a goal being scored against the Flyers that at the time everyone thought was offside, they even showed on the broadcast that it was offside, but then after watching it a few times in slow-motion you could see that it was an amazing call. There was even a thread about the blow call and a lot of people praising the ref for actually making a great no-call. In this case, I have a hard time praising people because a group of guys watched slow motion video from a bunch of different angles and came to the same conclusion that I did by watching a video on my 4 inch phone.

Again, would you praise a tax auditor if you forgot to file your taxes and they threw you in jail?

Half of the fans are saying "good, they corrected a blown call" and the other fans are saying "damn, they corrected a blown call".

 

[member 147413]

It was the right call. Should we really be praising someone for doing their job properly?

"Good job, you didn't screw up!"

It's unnecessary.

 

[Captain Bowie]

I'm watching the game specifically to watch the players do amazing things. Would you walk into an Art Museum and say "this painting is nice and all but can we give some love to the frame?".

And as I said, if the call had been made correctly at the time, it would have been a great call. i have a hard time praising people because a group of guys watched slow motion video from a bunch of different angles and came to the same conclusion that I did by watching a video on my 4 inch phone.

Again, would you praise a tax auditor if you forgot to file your taxes and they threw you in jail?

Half of the fans are saying "good, they corrected a blown call" and the other fans are saying "damn, they corrected a blown call".

The point is they work as a unit to get the call right, and they did. I'm sorry if you are incapable and simply stating "They did a good job to get the call right".

 

[HanSolo]

For some reason, fans expect the refs to be perfect.

I'd love some perfect players on the Rangers.

I don't expect them to be perfect. I don't think many rational people believe a ref can be perfect. But when you miss a long string of blatant offenses then call something marginal, or make the wrong call on something and your confidence is so strong in that that you don't even take it up with Toronto...they have an adverse affect on the game that's inexcusable.

 

[Rebels57]

This is the job they are payed well to do. They don't need an extra pat on the back. Their paychecks do that for them.