Buffalo Bills Week 15: Buffalo (10-3) at Detroit (12-1), 12/15, 4:25 PM, CBS

misterchainsaw

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Every teams does. Multiple times a season. Probably Andy Reid’s defining characteristic for over a decade before he won a superbowl



Every team does. Almost every game.



Who are you even referring to?




right, impossible standard but you get a pass if you’ve won a Super Bowl

Andy Reid is still low key terrible at managing the clock.
 
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Every teams does. Multiple times a season. Probably Andy Reid’s defining characteristic for over a decade before he won a superbowl



Every team does. Almost every game.



Who are you even referring to?




right, impossible standard but you get a pass if you’ve won a Super Bowl
I’m not sectioning out quotes on mobile but you’re evading the fact that the fear isn’t just suboptimal coaching but drastic unforced errors in critical points of games.

Time management drastically lowering a chance to win in a December game against an NFC opponent when you’ve locked up the division already is whatever, but mirroring it in the divisional round isn’t

Allowing your coordinator to play soft on third and long after misjudging whether to accept a penalty isn’t a big deal, until it’s the same situation again when the stakes are higher

Keeping Matt smiley stinking up the joint doesn’t blow your season, but one play might end it in the playoffs

It’s impossible to be perfect. It’s not impossible to stop allowing failure in key moments, especially after seeing it reflected in the regular season
 
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Zman5778

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McDermott is a good coach.

He got absolutely outclassed by the coach on the opposite side of the field tonight.

Both can be true. Hopefully he makes some much-needed adjustments.
Other than his brain-dead timeout......I'm not even sure how much he got out-coached. Nacua and Kupp put on otherworldly performances -- both made several catches while perfectly covered.....catches that very, very, very few WRs in the league can make. And Stafford put them in extraordinarily perfect places.

I'm not mad. I'm not upset. Their big guns at WR simply made plays that won them the game. It happens.
 
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Beane has tooled up this offense quite nicely. The Oline. RB’s. TE’s. Draft another lineman and WR this draft. Invest the other 77 picks we have on D.

If we’re going to play the type of D we do, we need a front 4 that can stuff the run and create pressure. Stafford had all day to throw.

I’d love a guy like Grant out of Michigan but we’d have to move up for him in the mid teens to draft him. Another DT I like is Walker from Kentucky whose a mammoth that might be there late in the 1st. Neither guy is a game changer though. This might be the year where Beane should bundle up and go with a guy like Pearce or Scourten. Both edge rushers with great ceilings.

Despite our D getting wrecked, this was still winnable. The blocked punt. Bullshit missed false start from their RT on 4th down . The PI on Puka, and missed PI on Cooper. And probably the most annoying nonsense, more f***ery from our coaching staff, burning that key TO on the missed goal line sneak late in the 4th.

Allen balled out like a hero but there were a couple of really bad balls he threw. I’m not concerned with the O though. 42 points. I’m concerned about the D. We’re healthy. We know who they’re throwing to, and still can’t stop in.

Load up the d-line thus draft Beane.
 
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Other than his brain-dead timeout......I'm not even sure how much he got out-coached. Nacua and Kupp put on otherworldly performances -- both made several catches while perfectly covered.....catches that very, very, very few WRs in the league can make. And Stafford put them in extraordinarily perfect places.

I'm not mad. I'm not upset. Their big guns at WR simply made plays that won them the game. It happens.
McVay ran a lot of formations and motion that the Bills didn’t have answers for.
 

misterchainsaw

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The Bills were literally #1 in special teams DVOA in 2022 and above league average last year.

It would be a pretty quick hook to fire Smiley this year, even after today's debacle, rather than let him try to figure things out.

Anyone blaming him for being on staff entering today is basically asking McD to be able to see the future.
 

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What's our DVOA this year on special teams?

Not good. I think it was like 25th entering today. It's harder to find the individual components since football outsiders went kaput.

And, anecdotally, I don't think they've done a good job coming up with blocking schemes for the new kick returns. We seem to get hit earlier up the field and our return guys rarely make the first guy miss.
 

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Other than his brain-dead timeout......I'm not even sure how much he got out-coached. Nacua and Kupp put on otherworldly performances -- both made several catches while perfectly covered.....catches that very, very, very few WRs in the league can make. And Stafford put them in extraordinarily perfect places.

I'm not mad. I'm not upset. Their big guns at WR simply made plays that won them the game. It happens.
To whatever extent you credit/fault him for defensive scheming, playcalling, etc. I think he got outcouched bad. Sure there were a few highlight real catches. But Kupp and Puka were running wide open through out zones all night. McVay had an answer for everything McDermott/Babich threw their way.

And of course I fault him for refusing to try something different from a personnel standpoint at positions that have clearly been weaknesses, but I've been beating that drum enough.
 
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Why? I liked some of his tweets today.


While I’ll grant him clemency for voting Josh MVP last year I don’t care for assessing the game as result-review-as-analysis. I don’t think anyone at FO actually claimed to be “analytics” but essentially it’s not much deeper than “things go well? means things are good, but with our own tweaks.” I also take issue with some of the nuts and bolts assumptions that drive those tweaks, but like that’s a personal prerogative. Whatever. I think the contextual absence in review is significant much less certain penalty data and what we’d just chalk up as luck
 

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With that said! I admire any effort to push further. It’s just I think it’s so very difficult to capture how messy and silly a game with 22 players interacting at once can be
 

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Funny enough, the Shanahan tree is repleat with horrible game managers too. I wonder if there's a tree that's actually good at this stuff.
I think it’s pretty few and far between. If there’s a coach that historically made it a priority beyond conventional wisdom, I’m not aware
 

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