WCSF Vancouver Canucks vs Edmonton Oilers. (Series tied 3-3)

[Leonardo87]

Vancouver Canucks vs Edmonton Oilers
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[Avsfan1921]

Where have they been the last couple years with the exact same core.

Bubble teams overachieve all the time, for example the flames.

Where have the oilers been with this exact same core? Not in the finals, so why does history matter?

Contenders underachieve almost as often as bubble teams overachieve, for example Edmonton.

 

[Three On Zero]

They added 4 new D. That’s a significant turnover. And their young captain took another huge step.
But we know the standings never change. Teams never improve and never get worse.

And who says they’re a bubble team? You?
You’re hardly objective.

I mean. This “core” has also had a deeper playoff run than Edmontons core. They’ve actually won playoff games in the 3rd round

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

I mean. This “core” has also had a deeper playoff run than Edmontons core. They’ve actually won playoff games in the 3rd round

new fan? Canucks haven't been to Round 3 since 2011 LOL

 

[Three On Zero]

new fan? Canucks haven't been to Round 3 since 2011 LOL

2020 would like to have a word with you

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

They added 4 new D. That’s a significant turnover. And their young captain took another huge step.
But we know the standings never change. Teams never improve and never get worse.

And who says they’re a bubble team? You?
You’re hardly objective.

Seattle made it to Game 7 of the 2nd Round last year
then promptly missed the playoffs this year with essentially the same roster

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Where have the oilers been with this exact same core? Not in the finals, so why does history matter?

Contenders underachieve almost as often as bubble teams overachieve, for example Edmonton.

They've been easily making the playoffs.

Not a bubble team to make the playoffs.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

2020 would like to have a word with you

that wasn't Round 3

 

[WetcoastOrca]

I mean. This “core” has also had a deeper playoff run than Edmontons core. They’ve actually won playoff games in the 3rd round

Technically the second round. But they also won the play in and took Vegas to 7 games.

Seattle made it to Game 7 of the 2nd Round last year
then promptly missed the playoffs this year with essentially the same roster

So? Lots of examples of young teams who made the playoffs and built on that success.
As usual you’re cherry picking to suit your biases.
I can also give you examples of teams who made the playoffs for a number of years like the Oilers but never got over the hump. But none of that really determines what the Oilers will do as each team is different.

 

[Three On Zero]

that wasn't Round 3

The NHL says it was, or are we going to arbitrarily not look at playoff stats now either ?

 

[rea]

Sry if i hurted your feelings. Did i wrote that?

No playoff serie is a walk in the park, maybe im homeblind, but 4- 2 was my vote days ago.

Think you can put up a fight, but the end will be the same.

Lol I don't know how any of what I said sounded like hurt feelings, but ok. I'm just living in your world big guy, I've no problem that my team is the underdog. I just don't speak where I talk down the competition, that's just asking for attention, something obviously many of you desperately need haha. Anyways, good luck to us in the series, we will need it! See y'all game 1

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

The NHL says it was, or are we going to arbitrarily not look at playoff stats now either ?

but they didn't...the "1st Round" was called the Qualifying Round lol

2020 Stanley Cup playoffs - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Three On Zero]

but they didn't...the "1st Round" was called the Qualifying Round lol

2020 Stanley Cup playoffs - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Which is counted as playoff round 1. I get that the Chicago loss is still probably a bit too harsh to talk about the subject though.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Which is counted as playoff round 1

but the NHL didn't call the Qualifying "Round 1"....only you did

So? Lots of examples of young teams who made the playoffs and built on that success.
As usual you’re cherry picking to suit your biases.
I can also give you examples of teams who made the playoffs for a number of years like the Oilers but never got over the hump. But none of that really determines what the Oilers will do as each team is different.

then why are you getting so offended someone dare call the Canucks a "bubble team"? they need to prove it year after year to be legit

 

[Three On Zero]

but the NHL didn't call the Qualifying "Round 1"....only you did

Because that’s what it was.

Let’s put it this way.

Canucks advanced through 2 “rounds” and took the next team to game 7 with this core

Edmonton advanced through 2 “rounds” and took the next to….. oh they got swept…

So the same “rounds” were won, but Vancouver was actually able to win games where as Edmonton was not.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Because that’s what it was

then show me proof where the NHL called the "Qualifying Round" Round 1

 

[Brookbank]

Can almost set a clock to it at this point.

Team exceeds expectations on the back of PDO and team wide outlier/career performance years? Get that guy the Jack Adams.

Same team comes back to earth the next season to match the correct expectation of the team from the prior season? Fire the coach because expectations weren't met.

This whole narrative is complete nonsense. It is backwards. The Canucks under achieved for 2 seasons. This season is the correction to where they should have been. To where the team was in 2020, beating the Oilers in the bubble playoffs.

It is also a load of utter tripe to say the Canucks have had "team wide outlier/career performance years" this year. The Canucks had a franchise tying four 30 goal scorers last year. Not this year.

Last year's scorers: Pettersson (37), Kuzmenko (37), Horvat (31), Miller (30)

 

[PuckG]

but the NHL didn't call the Qualifying "Round 1"....only you did

Now that is one hell of a way to change shit and state “Canucks have made it further than the Oilers in the playoffs with this core.”

Absurd and moronic.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

but the NHL didn't call the Qualifying "Round 1"....only you did


then why are you getting so offended someone dare call the Canucks a "bubble team"? they need to prove it year after year to be legit

I didn’t get offended. I just pointed out that they finished ahead of the Oilers.
If they’re a bubble team then so are the Oilers.
Winning the Division given the competition is a solid accomplishment.
Obviously you’re going to look at the negative because of the team you cheer for.

 

[McClelland]

2020 would like to have a word with you

Theres no 3rd round, 1st ,second and then conference final! Nucks where not in the final.

Covid year had a qualifying round to the 1st round. Or maybe you tried to be funny.

What happened the years after that 2nd round Covid exit?

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Because that’s what it was.

Let’s put it this way.

Canucks advanced through 2 “rounds” and took the next team to game 7 with this core

Edmonton advanced through 2 “rounds” and took the next to….. oh they got swept…

So the same “rounds” were won, but Vancouver was actually able to win games where as Edmonton was not.

let's put it this way:

Canucks haven't played a Final four game since 2011...13 years ago

I didn’t get offended. I just pointed out that they finished ahead of the Oilers.
If they’re a bubble team then so are the Oilers.

why? Oilers have made the playoffs every year since 2020 and have won a series 3 straight years
Canucks have done none of these things

bad comparable

 

[Three On Zero]

let's put it this way:

Canucks haven't played a Final four game since 2011...13 years ago


why? Oilers have made the playoffs every year since 2020 and have won a series 3 straight years
Canucks have done none of these things

bad comparable

You would be correct, and Edmonton hasn’t won a game in the final 4 since 2006.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

You would be correct, and Edmonton hasn’t won a game in the final 4 since 2006.

Canucks have only won two 7-game series since 2011
Oilers have won 5

also correct

 

[Drew Doubty]

Now that is one hell of a way to change shit and state “Canucks have made it further than the Oilers in the playoffs with this core.”

Absurd and moronic.

Even as a Canucks fan I find this a completely stupid argument. Why does it even matter?

Let's put it this way: The Oilers have gotten 8 wins away from winning the Stanley cup. The Canucks were 9 wins away. Therefore, the Oilers have been closer.

 

[Three On Zero]

Canucks have only won two 7-game series since 2011
Oilers have won 5

also correct

5 rounds won to 3 rounds won, not exactly a stellar stat to brag about

 

[WetcoastOrca]

let's put it this way:

Canucks haven't played a Final four game since 2011...13 years ago


why? Oilers have made the playoffs every year since 2020 and have won a series 3 straight years
Canucks have done none of these things

bad comparable

Or one team looks to be on the rise and the other at best stagnating.
We will have to see what happens.