Wayne Train Derailed?: Goes on Non-Roster status
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LeafalCrusader
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His play aside. Hope for all the best for him and his family.
Rude Dog
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Seems like a good guy but you can’t have two older guys on the 4th line. He is better than Clifford. Wonder if there is something else going on?
Maple Leaf
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u know what happens when u assume right ?? just wait for the official word tomorrow
Tweet you posted said it's important to not speculate. So you speculate dubas was helping him with personal glory?
I know you said some. And gave two examples. But your first was to the glory rather then what it shows in example as possible death
Larcos_Unal
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The only thing Keefe said in his post-game interview was that Simmonds was a healthy scratch.
Hope every thing is okay with him away from the ice.
On the ice, not sure I miss him that much, to be perfectly honest.
Hope every thing is okay with him away from the ice.
On the ice, not sure I miss him that much, to be perfectly honest.
PhiladelphiaKessel
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Maybe this is just a way to give him a bit of a break and he can spend some time with his newborn ? Probably all it is
Maybe Wayne has read the tea leaves and has decided to step away from the game? Does make me wonder if he had informed the team of this possibility hence the snag of Clifford... that was an odd get at the time.
Regardless, lets hope its a good news story or at the very least has a happy ending.
No doubt information will be shared when the time is right... or he re-joins the team.
Regardless, lets hope its a good news story or at the very least has a happy ending.
No doubt information will be shared when the time is right... or he re-joins the team.
Apex Predator
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I hope everything is well and nothing bad. You never know what is going on in someone’s life.
HellasLEAF
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I like him he's a decent player but was a no show in last year's playoffs should not play this year imo history will repeat.
riffle
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Absolutely did. Given I don't know the reason, I'm saying "if" this is what was happening, that's a bad look, imo.
I love Earl Schwartz but he doesn't dictate what I do or don't do. This is what boards like these exist for. The Simmonds topic is of interest. It is possible we're finally moving on from someone who needs to be moved on from. That is exciting.
Of course, I certainly hope it's nothing of a personal nature that is due to a difficult situation. That would be bad and I'd feel for him.
So dubas helped him with glory and gave him extra games to not be suspicious rather then ol faithful robidas island?
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riffle
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I don't know if Dubas helped him with glory, yet. That is to be determined.
Robidas Island is not for guys making 900k.
All I'm saying is, IF, and I mean IF, Kyle held off on getting rid of Simmonds to get him to 1K games that is pathetic. Some would find it classy. I don't. We all can see Wayne Simmonds is not helping this team win games. If the Leafs are more in the business of personal achievement than winning, that doesn't sit well with me. I don't know this to be true, but it has been speculated that Kyle kept him around to get him his milestone. I do not like that one bit, if that is true.
Will be glad if Wayne is gone. I thought he was a bald tire when he first signed here. Spezza is almost the same to me. Would like to leave the feel good stories and be more about being sold out for winning than nice story lines. Nothing personal against nice story lines, I just like winning better. I think most of us do.
Robidas Island is not for guys making 900k.
All I'm saying is, IF, and I mean IF, Kyle held off on getting rid of Simmonds to get him to 1K games that is pathetic. Some would find it classy. I don't. We all can see Wayne Simmonds is not helping this team win games. If the Leafs are more in the business of personal achievement than winning, that doesn't sit well with me. I don't know this to be true, but it has been speculated that Kyle kept him around to get him his milestone. I do not like that one bit, if that is true.
Will be glad if Wayne is gone. I thought he was a bald tire when he first signed here. Spezza is almost the same to me. Would like to leave the feel good stories and be more about being sold out for winning than nice story lines. Nothing personal against nice story lines, I just like winning better. I think most of us do.
Voodoo Child
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Wayne will step up the physicality every 6-7 games when the team is getting beaten down, but beyond that the numbers don’t lie.
95-11-12-23 as a Leaf, less than 12:00 last year and less than 10:00 this year, barely 4th line minutes and production.
And he’s just 33, it’s not like he’s 39 or whatever. He hasn’t really ‘hurt’ the team, like a guy like Ritchie or Mrazek, but he doesn’t really help them either.
Over that same time period Spezza has 108-20-30-50. He makes more errors than Wayne does, but at least he’ll move the needle a little on offense, and he’s versatile and good on the dot.
He’s a good soldier who was once a good player and has had a good career (250 goals, 1000 GP), but on a good team he wouldn’t be playing.
95-11-12-23 as a Leaf, less than 12:00 last year and less than 10:00 this year, barely 4th line minutes and production.
And he’s just 33, it’s not like he’s 39 or whatever. He hasn’t really ‘hurt’ the team, like a guy like Ritchie or Mrazek, but he doesn’t really help them either.
Over that same time period Spezza has 108-20-30-50. He makes more errors than Wayne does, but at least he’ll move the needle a little on offense, and he’s versatile and good on the dot.
He’s a good soldier who was once a good player and has had a good career (250 goals, 1000 GP), but on a good team he wouldn’t be playing.
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WillyC
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If they helped Wayne reach 1,000… that’s awesome.
It’s not like we’re fighting for a playoff spot.
It’s not like we’re fighting for a playoff spot.
You may not like, But I would think the players appreciate not being treated like a number.
Treat people right and they will go to the wall for you.
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With all due respect, this is so stupid.
It's an 82 game season, we are firmly in a playoff position. Everyone in that room, not just Wayne, wanted him to hit 1000 games. It's a morale boost for the entire team including staff to celebrate that remarkable achievement. Sheldon and Kyle more than likely did exactly what you are speculating, and are now giving him some time to rest up.
Wayne is 33 years old and has played about as hard of a 1000 games as you can probably imagine. His play isn't warranting him be in the lineup every night, this is just what happens.
But what is worse? sitting him his entire 1000 game season and make him retire at 990 GP? maybe even 999?? Look at what that did for Babcock in Detroit with Modano on 1499GP. It made every person in that room despise Mike and that was maybe the start of him losing that room
Kyle's been treating people right his whole careeer. Aint a single f***ing leaf that went through a wall for him or anyone when it mattered the most in the playoffs. Nylander kerfoot and rielly being given passes.
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Where was the speculation that he was kept around by the Leafs so he could get his 1000th game....... I'm not buying this one bit. I think it's a safe bit that there is something personal going on.
