Confirmed with Link: Walman and a 2nd Round Pick traded to SJ

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Looked up Walmans stats this year..... well. I wont do that again for a while. Guy may be a douche but by pure stat sheet watching... my opinion of the trade is starting to sway a bit. Think we miss Ghost way more but not having either seems to have more of an effect than I anticipated. Long season so lets see how he does for 70+ games on a last place team.

Offensively we miss both guys. Our current bottom 4 can barely complete a pass most of the time. I can understand moving on from both if we were going in a more defensive direction but Stevie didn't really do that by resigning Kane, signing Tank, signing Gus and not getting at least 1 better top 4 dman.

The only thing we really addressed to be better defensively was signing Talbot and dropping Husso to the AHL.

This is the first off season where I don't understand what Stevie was doing. At least from a short term perspective. I still think we had a deal for Trouba and it fell through after the Walman deal was done. I just can't explain that trade without it.
 

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It's hard to track, essentially Yzerman received a 2nd (Gibson) and a 4th (Keenan) to take Walman from the Blues.

Then traded Gibson for a 2nd to Preds and sent that to trade Walman to Sharks.

So net positive Larry Keenan out of this deal.

Walman is doing good on the Sharks, but let's not forget Blues wanted to get rid of him at a massive cost of a 2nd and a 4th rounder. Grier acquired a 2nd rounder to accept him..., and he's been healthy scratched by the Sharks despite his good play. All signs point there's some kind of debilitating issues with him.

Yzerman doesn't play around.
 
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14ari13

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It's hard to track, essentially Yzerman received a 2nd (Gibson) and a 4th (Keenan) to take Walman from the Blues.

Then traded Gibson for a 2nd to Preds and sent that to trade Walman to Sharks.

So net positive Larry Keenan out of this deal.

Walman is doing good on the Sharks, but let's not forget Blues wanted to get rid of him at a massive cost of a 2nd and a 4th rounder. Grier acquired a 2nd rounder to accept him..., and he's been healthy scratched by the Sharks despite his good play. All signs point there's some kind of debilitating issues with him.

Yzerman doesn't play around.
No matter how you look at it 19 points in 22 games is amazing. If you compare it to our defenders, other than Seider and Edvidsson, who have combined 13 points it looks mindboggling.
 

SimonEdvinssonAtSix

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No matter how you look at it 19 points in 22 games is amazing. If you compare it to our defenders, other than Seider and Edvidsson, who have combined 13 points it looks mindboggling.

If the speculation is true, that Walman is a locker room cancer, then those 19 points come at a greater cost. So I have to disagree with you, 19 points in 22 games is not amazing if they come from someone who is a detriment to the team chemistry.
 

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Hockey is a weird sport. There's absolutely no guarantees Walman would have been doing this for us. San Jose plays without any defense. Top 10 in GF, top 2 in GA. It is what it is. Maybe Walman is just a guy that does really well when there's no actual pressure.
 
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14ari13

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If the speculation is true, that Walman is a locker room cancer, then those 19 points come at a greater cost. So I have to disagree with you, 19 points in 22 games is not amazing if they come from someone who is a detriment to the team chemistry.
You speak about speculations, I refer to the stats and facts.

However there is obviously some truth to what you write, but it doesn't change the fact that Yzerman should get a 3rd rounder for him instead of giving 2nd.
 

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