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If even just half of our top prospects ‘hit’ we’re in incredibly good shape.
This rebuild is like butter.
This rebuild is like butter.
Prospect Info: Vitali Kravtsov: Part VIII
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This kid very much seems to be back on track. Looks dangerous every time he’s out there. Looks to be comfortable in his frame. Looks like he has taken what he’s learned from Hartford. he is poised to breakout and be back at the top of a lot of prospect lists.
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Chytilmania
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Agreed. I wonder how he feels going from top winger prospect to behind Kakko and Laf.
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Yeah. When we drafted him he was just what we needed. Now he’s looking a little redundant, even if he does pan out. But it would be a good problem to have, if it comes to that.
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Hopefully it stirs his competitive juices.
It should shift the FO and his focus to the middle.
No issue with him playing on the wing for now, but thats a transition that is really his ticket to making this team and sticking.
Not to mention that he has serious potential at the position too.
It’s a good question because I always look at how does a top guy get top player points? Well he’s gotta play top powerplay mins first. Usually you draft or acquire these young top prospects like Kakko Lafreniere Kravtsov Fox and your team is garbage so they get those mins. Our team has Zibanejad Panarin Kreider DeAngelo etc. so these kids don’t get those mins in those spots. Kravtsov does a lot of damage off the right wall on the pp Kakko as well. Neither will be on the top pp anytime soon. Not with Mika bread Kreids LAfrenyr here. Fox would have had similar numbers to makar or Hughes if not for a DeAngelo in front of him. I’m convinced of that.
So Kravtsov would struggle to even find second pp unit time with these guys. And I didn’t even mention Buchy or Strome. Or a Chytil.
now at even strength if Kreider moves over to accommodate Lafreniere Kravtsov is a third line player. So he won’t get those top 6 opportunities. Those offensive zone draws etc.
It’s a good problem to have for the org. Not so much for the player. What if he has a monster season is Russia which he seems primed to be ready for. He’s right back in the mix as a top nhl prospect.
So Kravtsov would struggle to even find second pp unit time with these guys. And I didn’t even mention Buchy or Strome. Or a Chytil.
now at even strength if Kreider moves over to accommodate Lafreniere Kravtsov is a third line player. So he won’t get those top 6 opportunities. Those offensive zone draws etc.
It’s a good problem to have for the org. Not so much for the player. What if he has a monster season is Russia which he seems primed to be ready for. He’s right back in the mix as a top nhl prospect.
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hopefully all they make him think about is that it's better to play with good players
25 guys on a hockey team over course of seasons, all of them needed
Yeah PP time is a pretty interesting situation...by default you would think this is PP1: Panarin-Zibanejad-Kreider/DeAngelo,Kakko/Lafreniere
Kreider in front, Panarin on the left, Zibanejad playing middle or down low, Kakko/Lafreniere on the right side, DeAngelo up top.
But are the best places for Kakko/Lafreniere? Both can't get time there either, so by default an extremely talented young player is going to be relegated to PP2. It's a "tough" situation in some ways. Add in Kravtsov and yeah you see how the minutes are limited there.
At even strength though I'm less worried for the long run. I like Buch but I think he's not here for the long haul. Going into next season I think you'll see a situation where the top 9 wingers are Panarin, Kreider, Lafreniere on the left (with Kreider and Lafreniere in an icetime battle depending on who's playing better but that doesn't bother me for Lafreniere's rookie season and I think Kreider will be valuable in a 3rd line role as well) and on the right you have Buchnevich, Kakko, Gauthier/Kravtsov/etc and again I don't see an issue with Kravtsov competing for that spot with Gauthier and playing "third line" minutes especially if the other wing is someone like Kreider or Lafreniere (and hell if it shakes out with Kravtsov or Gauthier earning top six minutes and Buch on the 3rd that's fine too). But going forward I think we'll see Kreider in the third line LW role, Buchnevich gone and Kakko moving up to be the top RW, Kravtsov and Gauthier and other players competing for those 2nd/3rd line spots which again is fine.
So, even strength I'm OK with things both short and semi long term on the wings, but PP time will definitely be a big competition. I suppose we could eventually see Kreider off PP1 but he's been one of the best in the league in front of the net through his career so it still seems to be his spot to lose.
edit: and I'm not gonna advocate for him to be switched to center, I doubt the Rangers will do it or that they see him as a center, but it'd be a fascinating switch if they did and he could succeed there as a 2C
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Providing that all are back, I am not sure that to start that Strome will be moved off what was one of the better power plays in the league. If it ain't broke......
Pretty amazing Kravtsov is so young he’s coming into his own here it appears. He’ll be 21 in December........
Now think about what Fil Chytil has accomplished as a center thus far in North American pro hockey. He’s literally only 3 months older than Kravtsov. Nuts right?
Now think about what Fil Chytil has accomplished as a center thus far in North American pro hockey. He’s literally only 3 months older than Kravtsov. Nuts right?
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Panarin’s first NHL goal was when he was almost 24 years old. Kravstov is still young. I hope he continues to grow and Panarin can be a mentor for him.
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Future PP units if all goes according to plan
Panarin (left wall) - Zibanejad (bumper, between the dots) - Kakko (right wall)
Kreider (parked in front; screening) - Fox
Lafreniere (left wall, where he's comfortable) - Chytil (screen) - Kravtsov (right wall)
Strome (bumper, if still here) - DeAngelo/Lundkvist
Can you imagine if Strome is moved and that 2nd unit is Lundkvist and DeAngelo? God, the possibilities are endless.
Panarin (left wall) - Zibanejad (bumper, between the dots) - Kakko (right wall)
Kreider (parked in front; screening) - Fox
Lafreniere (left wall, where he's comfortable) - Chytil (screen) - Kravtsov (right wall)
Strome (bumper, if still here) - DeAngelo/Lundkvist
Can you imagine if Strome is moved and that 2nd unit is Lundkvist and DeAngelo? God, the possibilities are endless.
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if DeAngelo is on the team you gotta think he gets PP1 duty.
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Traktor is concluding its 3-game road trip today vs. Vityaz.
Kravtsov is staying in his 1LW spot, same as in the last game - win against Spartak.
Новости ХК «Трактор» — «Витязь» vs «Трактор». Составы команд
Kravtsov is staying in his 1LW spot, same as in the last game - win against Spartak.
Новости ХК «Трактор» — «Витязь» vs «Трактор». Составы команд
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Wow, $4 tickets to see Traktor-Amur on Sep. 20 is beautiful. Wish I lived close and could. Would be nice to take in a game again.
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