Dallas has over 10 million wrapped up in their two goalies. One of them has to go back and I can't imagine Pittsburgh would want to fill up their remaining cap space with a backup goalie.
IMO, if anything is done it has to be a 3 way deal where one of the Dallas goaltenders is traded to another team. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. Maybe one of them is bought out just before the expansion draft (unless they changed the rules to deny buying out a contract before the exp. draft)?
Dallas has over 10 million wrapped up in their two goalies. One of them has to go back and I can't imagine Pittsburgh would want to fill up their remaining cap space with a backup goalie.
IMO, if anything is done it has to be a 3 way deal where one of the Dallas goaltenders is traded to another team. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. Maybe one of them is bought out just before the expansion draft (unless they changed the rules to deny buying out a contract before the exp. draft)? Only way I can see a deal happening.
When I think teams who could use another mediocre overpriced goalie, Dallas is the first that comes to mind
When I think teams who could use another mediocre overpriced goalie, Dallas is the first that comes to mind
Penguins trade Fleury at $4.75 million ($1 million retained)
Stars trade Niemi and a 2nd/3rd
The Stars upgrade in net for only $750k more in cap and a 2nd/3rd. Pens get a replacement goalie and a trade asset.
Penguins trade Fleury at $4.75 million ($1 million retained)
Stars trade Niemi and a 2nd/3rd
The Stars upgrade in net for only $750k more in cap and a 2nd/3rd. Pens get a replacement goalie and a trade asset.
plus of course, the Pens can then protect Murray in expansion instead of being forced to protect Fleury.
Does Fleury waive his NMC though? I'd think he'd prefer to be bought out, but then again maybe he thinks Dallas is a fit. He'd want to stay with Pittsburgh for the playoffs though.
plus of course, the Pens can then protect Murray in expansion instead of being forced to protect Fleury.
Does Fleury waive his NMC though? I'd think he'd prefer to be bought out, but then again maybe he thinks Dallas is a fit. He'd want to stay with Pittsburgh for the playoffs though.
leafs could probably take on one of those tenders and send back a cost efficient McEhlinney.
the question is what would they get to help facilitate a pit-dal deal?
Dallas: Fleury
Pittsburgh: McEhlinney, Nichuskin
Toronto: Niemi, ??? from Dallas
leafs could probably take on one of those tenders and send back a cost efficient McEhlinney.
the question is what would they get to help facilitate a pit-dal deal?
Dallas: Fleury
Pittsburgh: McEhlinney, Nichuskin
Toronto: Niemi, ??? from Dallas
Penguins trade Fleury at $4.75 million ($1 million retained)
Stars trade Niemi and a 2nd/3rd
The Stars upgrade in net for only $750k more in cap and a 2nd/3rd. Pens get a replacement goalie and a trade asset.
Please don't do Pittsburgh any favors Dallas! We'll give you Bishop for free if it means Pittsburgh has to protect Fleury instead of Murray
Buyout only makes sense if he thinks he will get a contract that will cover the money he is losing or giving him more overall which is not certain at all.
plus of course, the Pens can then protect Murray in expansion instead of being forced to protect Fleury.
Does Fleury waive his NMC though? I'd think he'd prefer to be bought out, but then again maybe he thinks Dallas is a fit. He'd want to stay with Pittsburgh for the playoffs though.
Why the Pens do it: We are ****ed if Murray goes down for significant time anyway. We are ****ed if we have to expose Murray. The longer we wait the more likely it is no one will help us. Buying out Fleury is gross mismanagement of the cap and a silly pipe dream. Welp times up and we are done posturing and pretending like we trust "Flower", lets trade him to the only market that wants him.
Why the Stars do it: We are ****ed with Lehtonen and Niemi. We are are ****ed if we can't sign Bishop in the offseason and putting all our eggs in that basket is probably stupid and risky. Lets take the mediocre lower risk/lower reward solution rather than looking for a long term solution. It can't get any worse right?
Result:
Pens: Murray never gets injured and they end up never needing Fleury, Niemi looks ok in the few games/reliefs he plays and no one cares.
Stars: Dallas finally gets slightly above average goaltending for the BARGAIN cost of nearly 12 million in cap space next season. Fleury goes on a tear this season and plays well enough to ensure that Dallas gets the 9th seed in the West and the worst draft position possible.
Please don't do Pittsburgh any favors Dallas! We'll give you Bishop for free if it means Pittsburgh has to protect Fleury instead of Murray
If Stars were still competing I think they'd do it 100%, but right now I'm not sure.
Not certain I follow here. That money's already spent currently. Are you suggesting that Dallas would eat Fleury's entire salary?
I'm thinking more along the lines of next season. Fleury's contract will be gone regardless and Pittsburgh could pick up a backup goalie for much cheaper in the offseason plus spend the extra money on more depth. Basically, Pittsburgh has nothing to gain in acquiring an overpaid backup goalie. Dallas would have to seriously overpay for Pittsburgh to consider taking one of the goaltenders from Dallas. If a deal were to be made, I don't see either side retaining any salary unless there was a 3 way deal involved.