Confirmed with Link: [VAN/NYR] JT Miller, Erik Brannstrom, & Jackson Dorrington for Filip Chytil, Victor Mancini, and 1st 2025 (Top-13 Protected, Unprotected after)

[ProviesGhost]

Easy to say behind a keyboard. For this issue to get out, in the way it did, you have to assume the dressing room was dysfunctional and something had to be done. They thought they could manage it and I sincerely believe everyone tried (hence both signing).

However, something went down that was irreparable. That is clear - JT was put on a time out. Let that sink in. That tells you how bad it was. Bad things happen, deal with it and move on IMO. I'm glad they didn't waste any more time on this and I hope they get rid of Pettersson too. f*** them both if they're this mentally weak, spoiled, entitled and selfish.

Season-ending, franchise-crippling return.

I don't give a f*** how much of an asshole yapper Miller is, I don't give a f*** if Blueberries got caught up in the media drama, you don't make this trade EVER.

He and his teammates are either multi-millionaires or multi-millionaires with job security. If they can't be f***ing professionals and put up with each other for four more f***ing months, they're hopeless. They'd never survive playing with the likes of Wendell Clark or Bobby Hull. Hell, sounds like they'd sit on a corner and cry if Tony DeAngelo was in the roster instead of feeding him punches.

There are too many hands in this move, which is the worst part. A failure of leadership, a managerial failure, a failure from our star players. Miller may have brought it upon himself, but interpersonal relationships are a part of any job and everyone involved failed miserably at that.

 

[Lindgren]

To me, a shitty return was sending out other important pieces or retaining. As long as they aren't retaining, I'm satisfied with the return. It was going to happen, it was going to be a loss, but it gives them cap space ammo, another centre, and a guy who should be playing over Juulsen.

This.

The Rangers aren't acquiring the Miller of last season. He's about to turn 32, still a very good player, but likely already declining.

 

[Michael Dal Swolle]

So what was the point of the Rutherford interview if they were going to turn around and take a spare parts deal like this?

I know this is the way it works with every first rounder these days but honestly taking protection on the pick is BS too.

 

[StickShift]

Bye Jelicia Telicia

 

[nowhereman]

I don't really mind it, after the last few MONTHS of drama, the addition by subtraction alone will be valuable, we save money, get younger and better defensively, and clearly are going to add.

I'm not even a big ep fan but I can definitely understand the logic of moving the older, more one dimensional player and seeing if 15 pts in 10 games ep returns .

The last Canuck I would have called one dimensional was Miller. We just got a hell of a lot softer and lost a ton of heart. Pettersson better get his shit together ASAP.

 

[Phrasing]

I hate how this management handled this. The return sucks.

 

[Snatcher Demko]

Calling it now - Canucks will send one of their 1sts + to acquire Bowen Byram, or someone like him.

Yeah, or a legit 2C. Almost best to wait until the draft when the pick will have its highest value. But that's not Allvin and especially Aquaman.

 

[Big zZz]

There's a lot more to this than meets the eye. We clear up a contract spot. 4m in cap space. Still have a 2c (not to Miller's caliber obviously). A first round pick. And who knows what we have in Mancini.

If Petey elevates his play like he did while miller was out on his pouting stint, we win this trade hands down. Ever passing year this trade will look better and better.

And he's in the east.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

I still think this is the beginning to an end for this core and suspect we are going to be rebuilding in 1-2 years.

 

[Yultron]

What year is the first round pick ??

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Canucks save almost 50% cap here too. Loads of space to work with.

 

[Diamonddog01]

Glad this exhausting, childish drama is over. And I'll repeat myself - Byram was a terrible target before we added Chytil. Now it would be ridiculous to trade for him.

 

[VanCanucks53]

Garbage

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

On the surface..looks pretty underwhelming.

 

[thefutures]

Don't trade the 1st.

 

[Vector]

Canucks now have about 7.5m in cap space which will be about 13.5m by the deadline.

 

[credulous]

i like dorrington a lot but he's a real longshot

i think the canucks did pretty good to get a first and chytil (mancini is irrelevant imo) for miller and change. depends a lot on the pick protections i guess though

 

[WetcoastOrca]

The 11 overall pick as of now is the center piece imo. But Miller may be enough to push the NYR into the playoffs so the value of the pick could decline.
I wonder if they have a deal to flip the first already in place to acquire Byram?

 

[Svencouver]

To me, a shitty return was sending out other important pieces or retaining. As long as they aren't retaining, I'm satisfied with the return. It was going to happen, it was going to be a loss, but it gives them cap space ammo, another centre, and a guy who should be playing over Juulsen.

The way I think of it is that the Canucks got back essentially everything they needed in a return, even if the quality of the individual pieces wasn't at the absolute highest they could've been. Getting back a replacement C, a young RHD, a first as trade capital, and the cap space from not retaining whatsoever is exactly what the Canucks were targeting and they're pretty fortunate to check off every item in their shopping list given this whole debacle

 

[WTG]

I still think this is the beginning to an end for this core and suspect we are going to be rebuilding in 1-2 years.

IDK, they did just get younger for what it's worth.

 

[ManVanFan]

I'd have to guess that Dorrington had no plans on signing with the Canucks.

 

[Nuckles]

First-rounder going to Vancouver is top-13 protected this year, Post has learned. If NYR are in top 13 this year, it would become unprotected first rounder next year.

 

[canadianmagpie]

So what was the point of the Rutherford interview if they were going to turn around and take a spare parts deal like this?

I know this is the way it works with every first rounder these days but honestly taking protection on the pick is BS too.

I'd take the protection on the pick if it meant no retention on Miller's contract.

 

[wonton15]

The Gary Mason article with Rutherford was 1000% an intentional lubrication of the fanbase for this one exact trade

 

[krutovsdonut]

bright sides:

we got more for miller than we paid for him.

we don't see the back end of his contract

put up or shut up time for petey

at least half the dressing room drama is gone

we got younger

victor mancini is a good name