Confirmed with Link: [VAN/DET] Canucks acquire D Filip Hronek, 4th in ‘23 for NYI 1st (condt’l), 2023 2nd

[kcunac]

What bottom 5 team has ever traded a 1st and 2nd rounder for help now? This is really hard to take. Hronek better be a lot better than I remember him to be.

 

[Diamonddog01]

We dont need a RHD..?

We absolutely did not need this RHD.

 

[m9]

What bottom 5 team has ever traded a 1st and 2nd rounder for help now? This is really hard to take. Hronek better be a lot better than I remember him to be.

I can tell you a bottom 10 team that traded a 1st and 2nd recently but you probably won't like the answer

 

[Nucker101]

Take a look at comparable players. His hockey card stats are comparable to Sergachev. Jared Spurgeon is another one. Difference being those two are a lot better defensively but that’s not a consideration when you play big minutes and put up points as a defenseman.

His point production will take a hit in Vancouver. He was splitting pp1 with Seider in Detroit, he’s gonna get scrap pp2 time here. Also riding a high pdo this year.

I suspect he’ll extend for around $6M-6.5M per unless he ends up on pp1 next to Hughes

 

[4th line culture]

Shayna Goldman likes this one for Detroit.

Coversely though..He's a 25 year old RHD who is in the top 20 scoring for NHL D......Pretty much the kind of player you would hope to draft with your 15th OA

Theres zero chance they would draft a 25 year old

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

We absolutely did not need this RHD.

We dont need a top 4 RHD...Why is that?

 

[JohnHodgson]

We absolutely did not need this RHD.

Our RHD depth:

Bear
Myers
??

We absolutely need Hronek... badly.

 

[AwesomeInTheory]

What in the utter f***.

 

[iceburg]

OK...I can now speak...after 4 hours of being speechless.
This is such a "make me look good now" move by the GM it's unbelievable. Nothing personal to Hronek but this move makes no sense if the team intends to be competitive long term. The only thing this does is guarantee a middling, playoff bubble team for the next half decade. Do they really think this guy is the next coming of Victor Hedman? If it turns out that way I'll stand corrected.

 

[Diamonddog01]

Our RHD depth:

Bear
Myers
??

We absolutely need Hronek... badly.

No, we did not need another small, offensive defensive and you are insane if you think a PP QB was a need here.

 

[Peter Griffin]

His point production will take a hit in Vancouver. He was splitting pp1 with Seider in Detroit, he’s gonna get scrap pp2 time here. Also riding a high pdo this year.

I suspect he’ll extend for around $6M-6.5M per unless he ends up on pp1 next to Hughes

40~ points and 22 min/game landed Serg an $8.5M extension and that’s without the right shot premium. Unless Hronek’s production drops significantly next season, he’ll be looking at $7.5M minimum on a longterm extension at 26 years old. Hell, Allvin might extend him this offseason.

 

[Diamonddog01]

We dont need a top 4 RHD...Why is that?

We need a top 4 RHD, my statement was that we did not need THIS RHD. What’s next, trading our ow 1st for Tyson Barrie?

 

[JohnHodgson]

So nothing to refute my point. Exactly what I expected from you.

You actually know nothing about hockey if you think Hronek is going to ask for $8M+ at his current pace.

Cale Maker makes $9M
Miro Heiskanen makes $8.45M
Quinn Hughes makes $7.85M
John Carlson makes $8M
Alex Pietrangelo makes $8.8M
Aaron Ekblad makes $7.5M

You think Hronek is anywhere even close to the level of these players? Like I said, let me know where you're getting the bud because it's hitting good.

Or you just have no idea how hockey works.

No, we did not need another small, offensive defensive and you are insane if you think a PP QB was a need here.

Of course the guy who plays 22 mins a night is only considered a "PP QB".

Only Canucks fans man...

 

[Johnny Canucker]

Jesus
f***ing
Christ

a 1st and a 2nd on a team 5th from the bottom....


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


WUT

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Ott didn’t give up much more for Chychrun.

Honestly.

Fire Allvin and Rutherford. Useless idiots.

 

[MS]

His point production will take a hit in Vancouver. He was splitting pp1 with Seider in Detroit, he’s gonna get scrap pp2 time here. Also riding a high pdo this year.

I suspect he’ll extend for around $6M-6.5M per unless he ends up on pp1 next to Hughes

I'm not utterly convinced it will. He's had fewer PP minutes than Seider over the past two years so this isn't some guy coming in totally propped on minutes he won't get here.

Also Detroit is a terrible offensive team. Hronek led them in scoring with 26 points a couple years ago. He's 2nd right now with 38 points. His PDO is good this year but he's also going to be surrounded by a lot more skill now than he was before.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

OK...I can now speak...after 4 hours of being speechless.
This is such a "make me look good now" move by the GM it's unbelievable. Nothing personal to Hronek but this move makes no sense if the team intends to be competitive long term. The only thing this does is guarantee a middling, playoff bubble team for the next half decade. Do they really think this guy is the next coming of Victor Hedman? If it turns out that way I'll stand corrected.

His age fits in with the rest of our core players...EP is only a year younger...They will all grow /deteriorate together.

Or are you talking about the core group after EP,QH, and Demmer..?

 

[Diamonddog01]

Of course the guy who plays 22 mins a night is only considered a "PP QB".

Only Canucks fans man...

Not what I said, learn to read. You are trying so hard to defend this steaming pile of dogshit it’s hilarious. And when you fail at that you have a tantrum and resort to insults.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Ott didn’t give up much more for Chychrun.

Honestly.

Fire Allvin and Rutherford. Useless idiots.

Agreed..although Chychrun is a LHD.

 

[Svencouver]

Theres zero chance they would draft a 25 year old

m2b esque

 

[mossey3535]

Man, I hope I'm wrong about this one but it seems like a dumb move.

Yeah of course we need a RHD but for this price I expect another 2-3 years of team control....or SOMETHING.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

This team has 0 plan.

sell the team to an american, move to USA.

Its enough now

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Agreed..although Chychrun is a LHD.

He can play the right side as well though.

Just an overall embarrassing trade.

 

[4th line culture]

m2b esque

The highest of compliments

 

[Nucker101]

40~ points and 22 min/game landed Serg an $8.5M extension and that’s without the right shot premium. Unless Hronek’s production drops significantly next season, he’ll be looking at $7.5M minimum on a longterm extension at 26 years old. Hell, Allvin might extend him this offseason.

From what I’ve read on the the athletic around the time Serg signed, Tampa operates uniquely, they get their guys to sign under market value for RFA year contracts with the understanding that theyll bend over a bit for the player on UFA years.


That could be false info so who knows.

There was definitely some sticker shock around the league when they locked up guys like Serg and Cirelli.

I don’t even like this Hronek deal but I’d be pretty shocked if he’s making $7M+ on his next deal. But perhaps he will be and Yzerman sold high to let another team deal with overpaying him.

It’ll be really interesting to follow.