Confirmed with Link: [VAN/DET] Canucks acquire D Filip Hronek, 4th in ‘23 for NYI 1st (condt’l), 2023 2nd

[Svencouver]

Alot of fun things to imagine, like having two first round draft picks.

Hey, if we had Weisbrod on here, who's to say I'm not a mysteriously quiet swedish general manager

 

[Canucker]

I think Hronek is a better player and a right shots….still don’t like the trade though.

Meh....maybe? He's an RFA with a reasonable QO which works better...but it still doesn't align with MY preferred route for success....just an ill-timed deal for a reasonable piece we can use, but would rather have used the important assets on ELC's/draft capital.

 

[Nucker101]

It’s really not. You keep bitching about every single move so don’t even

So he's got a pretty good hit rate on being right then lol

 

[Canadian Canuck]

He's testing out the broken clock theory

Let him cook

Literally nothing wrong with this trade but go on

 

[DonnyNucker]

I think if you'd ask NHL GM's and pro scouts this question, your opinion would be in the minority

I’ve always viewed Chychrun as a low iq toolsy defensemen. Not a fan. In no way am I defending this trade however. It’s just another short cut and the team will clearly never rebuild. This was a Petterson driven trade to some extent I’m sure

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Hronek is only on pace for 52 points this season and has never flirted anywhere near 50 prior. Last season was his best at 38 in 78. While a solid enough player, he's not good defensively which is a massive weakness on our blueline. He also gets a lot of powerplay minutes, something he won't have here with Quinn being ahead of him.

He’s improved..it’s not because this is an outlier of a season lol. He’s 25

 

[credulous]

Well and if people read that link.

"Hronek will not play Saturday versus the Canadiens.

Hronek isn't listed with any injury, so it's possible head coach Jeff Blashill is sitting the 23-year-old after he went minus-2 in an ugly 3-0 loss to the Flames on Thursday. If Hronek is hurt, there should be some information about him after the game -- if not, consider this a healthy scratch for the young Czech defenseman."

I guess he was not hurt it sounds like? But we need more information on this. Blashill also got fired.

here's another link that shows he was a healthy scratch for both that game and the next: Daily Faceoff

(scroll down to oct 23 and 24 2021)

 

[Vector]

Not only that but Colorado got Toews for four years at $4.1M. We’ll get Hronek for 1 year at $4M before he’ll be looking at $7M longterm. Terrible value.

Yes this is a huge complaint of mine. If he was signed for long term at his current cap hit, then great. If they can extend him out at the same rate then I'm fine with that. So, kind of like the Horvat trade, a lot needs to go right for this to go well.

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

If they were so obsessed with adding a defenseman Why not wait until the draft to see what other defenseman shake free? Feels like the draft picks were just burning a hole in their pockets and they took whatever defenseman that was available.

Sucks that management doesn't really have a solid plan and is just patchworking a middling team.

 

[Huggy43]

This thread is providing me more entertainment than any game this season lol

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Is there really a difference

Yes..I think so.

 

[Svencouver]

Hronek basically has to be Toews+ in order for the Canucks to be even close to being anywhere near a contender in these next three years.

Sure, we have Pettersson who is maybe close to MacKinnon. Miller who produces (for now) somewhat like Rantanen. Hughes ~= Makar. Demko was (is?) better than any goalie the Avs have had since Roy, and makes up for some of the gaps in the previous comparisons.

And then the comps start to fall short. We have nothing resembling the skill and ability of Landeskog, Kadri, Byram, Nichushkin, Lekhonen, etc.

That's the problem. As others have said, even if this is the JT Miller trade - an absolute pro scouting coup - is that enough? Hronek is obviously an NHL'er, so it sets a floor, but that NYI pick might legit offer a chance at a player like Michkov. That honestly feels like the only path the Canucks could have had out of perpetual mediocrity, and we've now slammed that door shut.

If this was following a Boeser for POJ + 2nd trade, maybe we could feel better. But as it stands, the team next year is most likely headed for a 20th place finish with the same stale, overpriced core.

I mean, a lot of those pieces you mentioned (Kadri, Lekhonen, Nichuskin, etc.) were either players acquired when or broke out when they were already roughly a contender, right?

 

[Orca Smash]

here's another link that shows he was a healthy scratch for both that game and the next: Daily Faceoff

Yeah but did the coach give any context to this or comment? This sounds like more of the same as your previous link.

I know this is not apples to apples with him being a D but I posted on here all the time about Bruce healthy scratching fiala and donato and why he deserved to get canned there in Minny.

From what I read Hronek has been much better under this new coach.

 

[Three On Zero]

I don’t overly hate this trade, but I don’t overly like it

 

[Peter Griffin]

Yes this is a huge complaint of mine. If he was signed for long term at his current cap hit, then great. If they can extend him out at the same rate then I'm fine with that. So, kind of like the Horvat trade, a lot needs to go right for this to go well.

Which is what makes passing on Marino this past offseason so frustrating.

 

[sting101]

i might be stuck with this avatar for a long time now.

 

[mriswith]

i might be stuck with this avatar for a long time now.

Same here

 

[lawrence]

You guys remember earlier when they said Canucks were looking for a hockey trade for horvat ? Yup it’s turned into a hockey trade after all now that that it’s

Horvat a 2nd round pick for beau, ratty and hronek and a 4th.

Francesco is 100% in charge. Alvin or Jr are just puppets. They don’t care about the time. JR is from Toronto and he’s done huge favours for the leafs in the past.

 

[EpochLink]

This trade is MEH, whatever.
Until Fat Ass Aqualini sells the team, I'm whatever to this team.

But **** that piece of child abusing trash.

 

[God]

here's another link that shows he was a healthy scratch for both that game and the next: Daily Faceoff

(scroll down to oct 23 and 24 2021)

my point was that if he was consistently being scratched for poor defensive play throughout the season, then sure, maybe it's of concern. but two games of being scratched, and a pretty solid 3 months to start this year should indicate that it's not necessarily a pattern, especially on a development curve.

 

[vancityluongo]

Yes this is a huge complaint of mine. If he was signed for long term at his current cap hit, then great. If they can extend him out at the same rate then I'm fine with that. So, kind of like the Horvat trade, a lot needs to go right for this to go well.

Hopefully they can extend him on July 1st at <$5m for at least five years. His agent, unfortunately, is not AGM Millstein (it's Allan Walsh), but hopefully there were conversations to seed that thought before this deal...

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

 

[Peter Griffin]

Remember last year when Allvin “stole” a 3rd in the Hamonic trade and then wasted it on an age gap bottom pairing defenseman in Travis Dermott? This feels like that times 10.

 

[Nucker101]

Same here

legit lol'd


best part of this clown organization is the memes they provide

 

[vancityluongo]

I mean, a lot of those pieces you mentioned (Kadri, Lekhonen, Nichuskin, etc.) were either players acquired when or broke out when they were already roughly a contender, right?

Sure - but they built up capital over a number of years (and with lottery picks) to get some of those assets and depth, too (Byram, Jost, Newhook, Girard).

Like, we can add Kuzmenko to our core, and he was a great find - but can they keep adding players like him for free every single offseason?