Confirmed Trade: [VAN/COL] Tucker Poolman (20% retained) and 2025 4th round pick for D Erik Brannstrom

[Rowlet]

Wow, Allvin just got owned by CMac. A free draft pick essentially.

Allvin got the team under the cap for a 4th, allowing the team to accrue cap space over the course of the season, this is a win for the Canucks.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Vancouver clears cap space

 

[Chainshot]

Seems like everyone sort of gets something they can use - Vancouver can start banking cap for the future, the Avs get to add to the LTIR amount. Vancouver gets an 8/9 for the farm and Colorado gets an extra pick that can be useful at the deadline.

 

[Brookbank]

Brannstrom is badddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

All the Swedes plus the best small D man in the world might be able to help is game

 

[Peter Griffin]

Wow, Allvin just got owned by CMac. A free draft pick essentially.

You do realize what a cap dump is, right? Vancouver dumped $2M of dead cap in this deal, a 4th is hardly getting “owned”. Allvin accomplished exactly what he wanted, albeit he probably wanted to dump the entire $2.5M.

 

[S E P H]

All the Swedes plus the best small D man in the world might be able to help is game

Nah, he can't handle an NHL forecheque and panics all the time with the puck. If he couldn't survive in a superior defensive core in Colorado, there's no way he's going to survive in an inferior defensive core in Vancouver.

You do realize what a cap dump is, right? Vancouver dumped $2M of dead cap in this deal, a 4th is hardly getting “owned”. Allvin accomplished exactly what he wanted, albeit he probably wanted to dump the entire $2.5M.

Brah, the two million doesn't count against the cap when its put on LTIR blud. This ain't rocket science.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Brah, the two million doesn't count against the cap when its put on LTIR blud. This ain't rocket science.

It does if you’re trying to stay out of LTIR and accrue capspace like the Canucks are, brah. Seems like it IS rocket science to you. You actually think Allvin traded a 4th for a player just to put on waivers? Lol.

 

[Rowlet]

Nah, he can't handle an NHL forecheque and panics all the time with the puck. If he couldn't survive in a superior defensive core in Colorado, there's no way he's going to survive in an inferior defensive core in Vancouver.


Brah, the two million doesn't count against the cap when its put on LTIR blud. This ain't rocket science.

When a team is utilizing LTIR, they're unable to accrue cap space over the course of the season.

When a team is cap compliant, they gain additional space every day.

 

[S E P H]

It does if you’re trying to stay out of LTIR and accrue capspace like the Canucks are, brah. Seems like it IS rocket science to you.

Fam, Avs need to accrue capspace too to bring Landeskog and Nuke back blud.

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

That's all it took for Vancouver to acquire the next Erik Karlsson? What a steal.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Has Vancouver's abbreviation always been "VCR"? I thought it was "VAN"

 

[mr figgles]

Who the f*** is VCR?

 

[Romang67]

I thought Poolman was going to be on LTIR for quite awhile? Cap move by the Avs?

And for the sake of my OCD sanity, please edit the title to VAN. WTF is VCR? Took awhile to read that.

No. The DVD was a mistake.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Fam, Avs need to accrue capspace too to bring Landeskog and Nuke back blud.

Ok? What does that have to do with the fact that this trade helps accomplish what the Canucks wanted to achieve? Colorado basically just bought a 4th round pick for about $1M in actual cash. Congrats?

 

[CanucksMJL]

Has Vancouver's abbreviation always been "VCR"? I thought it was "VAN"

It is VAN.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Wow, Allvin just got owned by CMac. A free draft pick essentially.

This is a cap dump my man.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Tidy work by CMac and the Avs. Brannstrom was horrible. They get a 4th round pick for nothing lol.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

When a team is utilizing LTIR, they're unable to accrue cap space over the course of the season.

When a team is cap compliant, they gain additional space every day.

Yup. but accureling cap is always the dream of a GM until injuries hit.

 

[Pip]

Avs sign Brannstrom late this summer, put him thru training camp and pre-season where he was a complete dud, and traded him for 4th before ever really skating for the team. Couldn’t get an easier draft pick if you tried. C Mac cooking.

You understand that the 4th was for the cap dump and not for Brannstrom right?

 

[RandV]

Seems like everyone sort of gets something they can use - Vancouver can start banking cap for the future, the Avs get to add to the LTIR amount. Vancouver gets an 8/9 for the farm and Colorado gets an extra pick that can be useful at the deadline.

Yes whatever CBA wizardry is required to make best use of LTIR space/cap accrual, both organizations are well run and know what they're doing here. Canucks are taking back a contract and eating some salary to limit the cost of moving Poolman's contract to a 4th rounder, while the Avs I'm assuming are better able to utilize the LTIR space at the cap hit they're getting him for.

 

[Mighty Makar]

Helped out both teams.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Tidy work by CMac and the Avs. Brannstrom was horrible. They get a 4th round pick for nothing lol.

They essentially bought a 4th round pick for actual cash since Poolman’s contract is either partially or not covered by insurance at all.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

A fourth is a pretty cheap price to move Poolman’s contract so the team can stay out of LTIR and start to accrue cap space for an upgrade on the D later in the year.
Nice bit of work by Allvin here.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

• Both Poolman and Landeskog will be on LTIR for the entire regular season.
• Once a team goes into LTI, adding additional LTIR contracts is irrelevant to anything other than contracts /50 and real money.
• That makes this trade Colorado buying a 4th round pick for cash.
• Brannstrom goes to Vancouver as a proxy for retention. He is on a 1-way contract and is not going to make Colorado.
• So it's Colorado buying a 4th round pick for 1.4M (80 percent of Poolman's salary minus Brannstrom's 900k).
• Retained salary doesn't go on LTIR, so for Vancouver they are paying a 4th round pick to be able to bank money towards the Trade Deadline. They did not have to go into LTI because they could have gotten under the cap, but 2.4M in open cap space is significant.
• There is also a small chance that they can get a 4th-7th round type pick for Brannstrom down the line. Teams with injuries will always give up late picks for legitimate NHL defenseman. Once he clears and becomes waiver exempt, that makes him more valuable.

edit: An Avs poster claims that Landeskog has a January timeline for his return. If so, he would have to come off LTIR in season, but it is possible that they view banking a small amount of cap space between whenever he comes back in January to the March 4th TDL as pointless compared to staying in LTI with Poolman and getting an asset. So I may have been incorrect with my assumption that he was going to stay on LTIR all season.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

They essentially bought a 4th round pick for actual cash since Poolman’s contract is either partially or not covered by insurance at all.

They also are able to get rid of a guy that was beaten by everyone else for a spot in camp.


I'm mostly curious about the 20% retention. I believe its possible the Avs are gonna be in a situation where they're actually still going to get to bank cap space. IIRC there's something about the Cap and the way LTIR works where if you can get as close to the cap as possible without going over, before utilizing LTIR, you can continue to bank a bunch of space.

I think with the 20% retention the Avs are going to be extremely close to that cap, like maybe $70,000 under or something silly.


This definitely just feels like an incredibly savvy cap maneuver by both teams really as this looks like it will get Vancouver under the cap to start banking as well.