GDT: USA (3) vs. Switzerland (2) • Quarterfinals • Jan. 2

[TheBeastCoast]

I'm not sure what exactly you mean? You thought they made a mistake starting Parsons today? If so, why?

I never even implied that lol I never even said I thought Parsons shouldn't have been the starter you were just to busy babbling your usual relentless drivel to actually understand.

 

[Bixby Snyder]

Because he's had a statistically worse tournament, and Woll was dynamite against Canada.

US can beat Canada with either goalie. At this point you should be more concerned about Canada getting past the Czechs.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

US can beat Canada with either goalie. At this point you should be more concerned about Canada getting past the Czechs.

You literally just snuck by the Swiss a couple hours ago lol I mean not the place to be throwing stones on either side I think.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

I never even implied that lol I never even said I thought Parsons shouldn't have been the starter you were just to busy babbling your usual relentless drivel to actually understand.

Good, because it turned out to be the right decision by the US coaching staff. Parsons was the difference this game, and anyone that followed hockey would know he would be the #1G going into the elimination games. Had they left him on the bench today, the USA may not be through to the semi finals.

 

[Bixby Snyder]

You literally just snuck by the Swiss a couple hours ago lol I mean not the place to be throwing stones on either side I think.

They won the game didn't they? A game after they beat your boys, so yeah I can throw stones where ever I want.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

They won the game didn't they? A game after they beat your boys, so yeah I can throw stones where ever I want.

Alright champ you have fun

 

[WarriorofTime]

Watching teenagers like Jalen Hurts and Sam Darnold really just hammers it home to me that if our best athletes played Hockey, we'd win this thing by a mile every year.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Watching teenagers like Jalen Hurts and Sam Darnold really just hammers it home to me that if our best athletes played Hockey, we'd win this thing by a mile every year.

That right there is a shocking idea I can't believe nobody has thought of that before. Yes it is kind of a given that if you guys were as into hockey as you were Basketball and Football you would run it based on sheer numbers.

 

[Divine]

good, because it turned out to be the right decision by the us coaching staff. Parsons was the difference this game, and anyone that followed hockey would know he would be the #1g going into the elimination games. Had they left him on the bench today, the usa may not be through to the semi finals.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

That's hilarious and awesome.

 

[madmike77]

Why are people so bent out of shape over the goalie thing? They've both been great. Or is this some kind of Leafs fans thing?

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Why are people so bent out of shape over the goalie thing? They've both been great. Or is this some kind of Leafs fans thing?

No someone made a comment before the last game that Parsons was the clear cut #1 and it wasn't close and I simply said that if Parsons was the clear #1 he would have started the Canada game. I completely agree both goalies are great.

 

[SanDogBrewin]

Why are people so bent out of shape over the goalie thing? They've both been great. Or is this some kind of Leafs fans thing?

Well it is a discussion board. Great problem to have for the US.

 

[madmike77]

No someone made a comment before the last game that Parsons was the clear cut #1 and it wasn't close and I simply said that if Parsons was the clear #1 he would have started the Canada game. I completely agree both goalies are great.

I don't think there is a clear number one. The only reason I'd maybe favor Parsons is the big-game experience from last year's Memorial Cup.

 

[DFF]

Good bye USA then

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Even if this guy is correct, and I have no idea he if he is as I have never heard of the guy. He's not Bob Mckenzie. The point has already been proven, Parsons was the correct decision today. And if this freelance writer is correct, Parsons if the USA survive the semi-final will be in for the gold medal game. His memorial cup big game experience of playing in pressure games should almost assure this. I am not sure why you or others want Parsons out of the USA net? Not unless you are hoping for an earlier exit for the USA.

 

[Divine]

Even if this guy is correct, and I have no idea he if he is as I have never heard of the guy. He's not Bob Mckenzie. The point has already been proven, Parsons was the correct decision today. And if he is correct, Parsons if the USA survive the semi-final will have Parsons in for a gold medal game. His memorial cup big game experience of playing in pressure games should almost assure this. I am not sure why you or others want Parsons out of the USA net? Not unless you are hoping for an earlier exit for the USA.

I want Parsons in net, but I'm a fan of Team Canada. Statistically, he has had a worse tournament. You could actually argue the opposite. They started Parsons today to give him the easier game, and will ride Woll. Who knows. Parsons has a .923 save percentage this tournament, while Woll has .935. So it's hard to argue that Parsons is a clear cut number one, when the stats suggest the other is playing better.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

I want Parsons in net, but I'm a fan of Team Canada. Statistically, he has had a worse tournament. You could actually argue the opposite. They started Parsons today to give him the easier game, and will ride Woll. Who knows. Parsons has a .923 save percentage this tournament, while Woll has .935. So it's hard to argue that Parsons is a clear cut number one, when the stats suggest the other is playing better.

The both had a 1.5 GA and were separated by 0.07% in save percentage heading into today's game. One would argue they put Woll in the less pressure games, and Parsons in the higher pressure games. The Canada/US game both had secured the top 2 placings in the group already. So the statistically advantage you cite, given the circumstances is really minuscule, I'd rather look at how Parsons came up big today by rewarding his coaches confidence in him, as an argument can be made without him today, the Swiss could be moving on and not the US.

 

[Divine]

The both had a 1.5 GA and were separated by 0.07% in save percentage heading into today's game. One would argue they put Woll in the less pressure games, and Parsons in the higher pressure games. The Canada/US game both had secured the top 2 placings in the group already. So the statistically advantage you cite, given the situations is really minuscule, I'd rather look at how Parsons came up big today, as an argument can be made without him today, the Swiss could be moving on.

Why is goals against relevant when one goalie faces more shots? You would think save percentage would be more relevant. Parsons played against Latvia/Russia. Woll played against Canada/Slovakia. Do you think Latvia was a high pressure game? By Russia they already secured a spot in the elimination round. Canada was undefeated, and losing would have resulted in stronger competition in the elimination rounds.

As dictated by the standings:
Slovakia > Latvia
Canada > Russia

I don't know how you argue Parsons had the high pressure games. Latvia?

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Why is goals against relevant when one goalie faces more shots? You would think same percentage would be more relevant. Parsons played against Latvia/Russia. Woll played against Canada/Slovakia. Do you think Latvia was a high pressure game? By Russia they already secured a spot in the elimination round.

As dictated by the standings:
Slovakia > Latvia
Canada > Russia

I don't know how you argue Parsons had the high pressure games. Latvia?

It has already been mentioned by some in this thread already, before the game against Canada, the top 2 in group A were already decided. Both teams secured it by winning game 3. Other than the TSN build up of the US/Canada new years eve ratings match up. More was on the line in game 3. Once both teams went to 3-0 in the tournament, the pressure was off. There was not as much riding on that game other than who they would face in the 1.4 final which proved to be equally tough for both teams today. You may disagree with this, but it is to me. But had they thought Woll was the better pressure goalie, why didn't they play him today? And given how the Swiss played, it was not a gimme today. And credit the Swiss for the game they played today, and for Parsons coming up big to allow the USA another game in the semi final right?

 

[Divine]

It has already been mentioned by some in this thread already, before the game against Canada, the top 2 in group A were already decided. Both teams secured it by winning game 3. Other than the TSN build up of the US/Canada ratings match up. More was on the line in game 3. Once both teams went to 3-0. There was not as much riding on that game. You may disagree with this, but it is to me. But had they thought Woll was the better pressure goalie, why didn't they play him today? And given how the Swiss played, it was not a gimme today. And credit the Swiss for the game they played today, and for Parsons coming up big to allow the USA another game in the semi final right?

They thought the Swiss game would be easy, that's why. The Swiss were a 4th place team. If Woll starts next game, that would suggest the same. Maybe if they could predict the future and know how challenging the game would be, things would be different.

Swiss was 1 point away from the relegation round, no one expected it to be close.

 

[Snippit]

No someone made a comment before the last game that Parsons was the clear cut #1 and it wasn't close and I simply said that if Parsons was the clear #1 he would have started the Canada game. I completely agree both goalies are great.

You are not doing a good job of paraphrasing me. I addressed this a couple of pages back - you seem to have ignored it.

I said I'd "comfortably take" Parsons. That does not necessarily mean that I don't think they're close - just that it's a clear decision for me.

Funniest part is I only said that in response to a poster that said Woll (and Bracco...) were the best players on USA. Hilarious that someone can even think that, but I mean...they are Leafs prospects, after all.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

They thought the Swiss game would be easy, that's why. The Swiss were a 4th place team. If Woll starts next game, that would suggest the same.

I disagree, and you have no way of knowing the US coaches thought this. Your premise is actually silly and far fecthed. This was an elimination game and a nail biter as it turned out.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

It has already been mentioned by some in this thread already, before the game against Canada, the top 2 in group A were already decided. Both teams secured it by winning game 3. Other than the TSN build up of the US/Canada new years eve ratings match up. More was on the line in game 3. Once both teams went to 3-0 in the tournament, the pressure was off. There was not as much riding on that game other than who they would face in the 1.4 final which proved to be equally tough for both teams today. You may disagree with this, but it is to me. But had they thought Woll was the better pressure goalie, why didn't they play him today? And given how the Swiss played, it was not a gimme today. And credit the Swiss for the game they played today, and for Parsons coming up big to allow the USA another game in the semi final right?

The US coach said right before the start of the Canadian game that they feel 100% confident with either of the two goalies in net....I am not sure why it is so hard for you to admit that the US have two goalies capable of winning this tournament Because they do. Woll has been every bit as good as Parsons.

 

[Divine]

I disagree, and you have no way of knowing this. This was an elimination game and a nail biter as it turned out.

You have no way of knowing they would have lost the game with Woll either. The Swiss were destroyed by Finland... the only game Finland won, by the way. The same Finland who is playing in the relegation round.

The Swiss were the weakest team advancing in group A. How many people were predicting a Swiss win? Do you know how much USA was favoured in that game... it would suggest it would be an easy game.