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UPDATE - Muzzin placed on LTIR

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I think we're going for Miller and Chariot and betting it all on Campbell figuring it out. Miller is basically the perfect solution for our second line and makes our forward group downright scary. Chariot may be overpriced but he'll cost a lot less than Chyc and you know exactly what you're getting from him. If we pull this off it's going to be at a very steep price but it'd be hard not be excited about icing that group.
 
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Hope Muzz is ok for playoffs.

Miller is a long shot.

I'd pass on Chariots, couldn't stand it when he turned out to be Holl 2 and everyone started chanting Chariots of Fire
 
I hope Muzzin comes back this year. He is really valued by the Leafs. I believe Dubas stated that Muzzin was the conscious of the team. If they are able to use Ltir for other players, I hope it is for
a longer term solution on D and a Left winger for the second line.
 
I just don’t see the Nucks moving Miller unfortunately. If they were bottom 5 in the league, that would be a different story. But with Bruce as their coach, they’ll probably want to keep their best offensive player who’s under contract heading into next season. However if he’s actually available and you can acquire him, you definitely do it.
 
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egd27 said:
With Muzzin out, it makes the Leafs that much more desperate and ripe for an overpayment. So I would expect our GM is now in his comfort zone.
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Maybe we don't have enough good blueliners again - seems like a perennial observation.

Oh well, we can still trade away our 1st or 2nd I guess. Just a thought, but the draft would be pretty weird this summer if we only stepped up to the podium for a 7th round selection.
 
ACC1224 said:
I guess no one knows.
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From what I've read if a guy is on LTIR... the player has to miss 24 days or 10 games. Whatever comes first I think.

So basically about a week before the deadline.

After that it just depends on how he is doing before he is able to come back.

I think in this case with a head injury, I don't think anyone is going to put up to big a deal if he's back around playoffs. Especially considering what Tampa got away with that last year.
 
TIGERCOOL said:
I think we're going for Miller and Chariot and betting it all on Campbell figuring it out. Miller is basically the perfect solution for our second line and makes our forward group downright scary. Chariot may be overpriced but he'll cost a lot less than Chyc and you know exactly what you're getting from him. If we pull this off it's going to be at a very steep price but it'd be hard not be excited about icing that group.
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Hard for me to get excited about anything they add if we roll with Campbell/Mrazek into the playoffs. A pair of sieves are prime ingredients for another first round exit.
 
Burnie97 said:
From what I've read if a guy is on LTIR... the player has to miss 24 days or 10 games. Whatever comes first I think.

So basically about a week before the deadline.

After that it just depends on how he is doing before he is able to come back.

I think in this case with a head injury, I don't think anyone is going to put up to big a deal if he's back around playoffs. Especially considering what Tampa got away with that last year.
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Thanks.
So theoretically the Leafs could spend this extra money and then need to turn around and dump it if he feels he is ok to play?
 
ACC1224 said:
Thanks.
So theoretically the Leafs could spend this extra money and then need to turn around and dump it if he feels he is ok to play?
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I suppose so but I'm guessing they'll know forsure way before then if he'll be out until the playoffs or even longer.

I don't think they'll make a huge move unless they know he's done until at least the playoffs.
 
Burnie97 said:
I suppose so but I'm guessing they'll know forsure way before then if he'll be out until the playoffs or even longer.

I don't think they'll make a huge move unless they know he's done until at least the playoffs.
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Thanks. Yeah, I agree, I was just curious about the 'what if?'
 
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ACC1224 said:
Thanks.
So theoretically the Leafs could spend this extra money and then need to turn around and dump it if he feels he is ok to play?
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Yep, LTIR only allows us to add if Muzzin is going to be out until the end of the regular season. Which basically means you need a wink-wink handshake deal with Muzzin that he's going to be 'injured' for the next 32 games. While it certainly could be season ending I'm not sure how you make that prediction with a head injury, it's not like a knee or broken bone that has a 6-8 week timeline or something, he could be fine in a week, a month or it could take much longer, who knows.

The only real benefit without the handshake deal is it allows the Leafs to run a 23 man roster, but then you're not accruing cap space for the deadline, so a bit of a double edged sword there.
 
VanW27 said:
Yep, LTIR only allows us to add if Muzzin is going to be out until the end of the regular season. Which basically means you need a wink-wink handshake deal with Muzzin that he's going to be 'injured' for the next 32 games. While it certainly could be season ending I'm not sure how you make that prediction with a head injury, it's not like a knee or broken bone that has a 6-8 week timeline or something, he could be fine in a week, a month or it could take much longer, who knows.

The only real benefit without the handshake deal is it allows the Leafs to run a 23 man roster, but then you're not accruing cap space for the deadline, so a bit of a double edged sword there.
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Thanks. I was just trying to understand the implications and was surprised that no one had ever mentioned him coming back before the playoff.
 
Burnie97 said:
From what I've read if a guy is on LTIR... the player has to miss 24 days or 10 games. Whatever comes first I think.

So basically about a week before the deadline.

After that it just depends on how he is doing before he is able to come back.

I think in this case with a head injury, I don't think anyone is going to put up to big a deal if he's back around playoffs. Especially considering what Tampa got away with that last year.
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Just want to say your OR should be an AND.
 
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