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Le Golie

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First off, I am NOT a homer. Second off, I consider myself a damn reliable source when it comes to goaltending....

That being said, how the %&@* does Rask get top goalie over Pogge?!

Unbelievable. Pogge is head and shoulders above every other goalie in this tournament. Obviously this award was decided before the semi finals, because Pogge was unbelievable and Rask was average, playing behind a good and honest defence. This was the most unbelievable award winning decision I have ever seen at this tournament, bar none. It is a joke to see.
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As a Leaf fan I don't care both played extremly well, and you could make an argument forboth.

Pogge played like a brick wall in net, 3 shutouts, a sparkling GAA and save%

Rask, who many didn't think would be the #1 played like a #1 in front comprised of cardboard cutouts.
 
Rask got it because he was solid all tournament and he had a game where he went far and beyond just stealing it for his team. A 53 save shutout is amazing. Rask played only 9 more minutes than Pogge over the tournament but had to face 216 shots to Pogge's 125.

You can disagree with the selection, but it's certainly not unbelievable. Rask had a wonderful tournament.
 
I think Pogge should have gotten it myself, but i guess the therory was Rask actually won a game for his team, while Pogge was just there and did his job(sort of like why doesn't MartiN Broudeur have more Vezinas).
 
Rask was great and deserved it. Pogge was equally great but had a very strong defence in front of him.
Kudos to both. :handclap:
 
Le Golie said:
Rask was average
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Enough.

You've been ragging on Rask all tournament, and now calling Rask average (an absolute joke) and the Finnish defense good just shows that you've got some vendetta against the guy.

.940 SP and 2.11 GAA, 36 shots on goal a game

If that's an average performance then how bad were the nine goalies that finished with worse numbers?
 
I personally think Pogge was better, but Rask did have to be spectacular, which he was at times (he stole the qf in ridiculous fashion), while Pogge only had to be solid and never had to steal games behind an OUTSTANDING Canadian defense.
 
I'd say (from what I've seen and heard) that Rask was great but Pogge was a bit better. That being said, given a team like Canada, a moderate underdog, and a team like Finland, a pretty big underdog this year, it's not surprising that officials give it to the goalie they feel had "the least to work with" so to speak. Not meant as a slight to the Finnish fans, they're my second favorite international team.
 
Whatever, Leafs fans can't complain :p: Anyway Pogge was definitely better but that was due to having a better defence in front of him. Rask earned it, no complaints from me.
 
I thought Pogge was excellent when called upon. He made timely saves, and showed an ability to thrive in both situations of heavy and light work.

But at the same time, Rask was the only reason Finland played for a medal. His performance against Sweden will be remembered for a long time. He was solid against Canada in the semi-final.

Either goalie would have made a worthy pick. I'm happy for Rask. I would have been thrilled for Pogge.

In the end, ask Pogge which he would rather have: WJC gold (which I'm assuming will be given to his much deserving Mom) or a goalie of the tournament award. I think Le Goalie is more disappointed than Pogge.
 
Tuukka Rask is completely deserving of the Top Goalie award. This takes nothing away from Pogge's stellar performance. Both teams win because of very solid play between the pipes. But Finland is playing for six or eight place without Rask's exceptional play.

He was the sole reason the Finns fly home with a medal.

Congratulations to both tenders. Pogge got the big prize while Rask get the deserved edge and recognition for individual play, imo.
 
Rask had the 53 saves vs Sweden and beat out a favourite USA for bronze. I bet that played a huge part.
 
Rask was down right awful in the first game. He had a great game against the Sweds, but one games shouldn't make a whole tournament. Pogge had three shutouts I beleive, and had a 1.00 GAA. I have no clue how he didn't get it. Jari Kurri and Mikko Makelea where doing the voting?
 
Pogge could have won it, but Rask is not a bad choice either, he is the biggest reason Finland has themselves a bronze medal and he made 53 saves to beat Sweden! Finland was not as good of a team as Canada, he had to be better to win. No complaints about him winning.
 
I thought TuukkA deserved it, take away his first game against Canada, he was great in rest of the games. He was the reason fins played in the medal round.
 
Nihilism said:
Rask was down right awful in the first game. He had a great game against the Sweds, but one games shouldn't make a whole tournament. Pogge had three shutouts I beleive, and had a 1.00 GAA. I have no clue how he didn't get it. Jari Kurri and Mikko Makelea where doing the voting?
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one great game? He was great against the Swiss team, played well against Canada in the Semi, and played good against the States. He had 5 Quality starts. He kept Finalnd in the game against Canada, He made 39 saves, Finland had no offense you can't expect Rask to score goals for them too now. The 4 goals against were all good goals one he was screen he didn't see Cogliano goal was a perfect shot and Comeau he stopped him twice before he put home the rebound. The only goal scored against which I think should have been played better was the Russell goal he just looked ackward on the play.
 
Epsilon said:
Both of these statements are incorrect.
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:shakehead Who are you to question me? Aren't you still focused on parading how Hossa is so much better than Heatley? You should have learnt to be humble some time ago. Hey, you have three years of history to search on me. Show me one unreasonable post made in the name of homerism. I dare you. Good luck. And also, I've played more junior games and coached more goalies who are in the WHL today than you will ever have the priveledge of knowing. I don't brag about it, but if you try to call me on it, I'll use it against you.

Anyone who watched the games knows how much better Pogge was. Technically, positionally, mentally - Pogge was superior to the competition. Rask carried his team??? Show me ONE save against Sweden that he shouldn't have had. Any goal he would have given up would have been a bad one. his defence was weak? Please. Maybe on paper, but they sure limited the scoring chances against everyone but Canada.

Anyone who wants to use stats AGAINST Pogge should know that all tournament, he only let in one goal that he saw and wasn't defelected - the breakaway to Mueller. That's a great example of how watching the games are a littel better than crunching numbers.

In games that counted, Pogge 54 shots 0 goals. Rask, 82 shots 6 goals. Not terrible stats, but compared to Pogge it's not even a contest.

The only people making any kind of case for rask are Finns or Leaf fans. I am neither, and I'm not a Finn hater or Leaf hater. I have no personal vendetta against Rask, I just don't think he's that good.
 
Both goalies were stellar, but bottom line is Pogge had far more to work with in regards to the team in front of him. No Rask = no bronze for Finland. As good as Pogge was, I believe Canada could have won Gold with Dubnyk
 
IMO Rask is the reason the Finns got the bronze. He made some incredible saves in that game. The shutout against Sweden is just a cherry on the sundae. Well deserved award - and that doesn't get anything away from Pogge's performance, which was record-breaking good.

And, IMO still, Hossa is better than Heatley. :p:
 
He was unhuman in the Swe game. Sweden got absolutely robbed in that game. You could see from the Swedish players' faces how frustated they were after Rask shut the door for them time after time. After the game I really felt for them as you could see how disappointed they were.
 
Le Golie said:
his defence was weak? Please. Maybe on paper, but they sure limited the scoring chances against everyone but Canada.
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If the Finnish D wasn't so weak then why the teams we played against outshot us in every game. Did you even watch the games Finland played? For instance in the Swe game there were only one team on the ice. Finland had only 20 or so shots on goal while Sweden had 53 and watching the game was 60 minutes of pain for me. Our D couldn't do anything to stop the Swedish players coming into our zone to create plays and scoring chances.

That being said our D was flat out horrible.
 
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