Proposal: Trouba Mega thread Part V

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untouchable21

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If I'm Trouba I'd just sign a long term deal with the Jets, then show up and not try. Would make for great revenge against them. They'll have to trade him for peanuts.

What, is Trouba in elementary school or something? Those are the antics of a baby. I seriously question your age for even suggesting it.
 

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I posted this in the previous Trouba thread - http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2129651&page=21
Toronto is not in the mix
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I also said it was not in any article posted and that I got it from elsewhere. Fans, mostly from a very nice city somewhere north of The US border, want ape feces and demonized me as a halfwit Eklund nutcase.
Dregers tweet yesterday all but confirms what I already then on September 29th claimed. Eat the blackbird now. Trouba on Broadway looking more likely but Boston is pushing hard is what I now heard. Detroit too. Original 6 it appears
 

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Listen, there is no one who loves Canada more than Trouba. There is no one who respects Canadian teams more than Jacob Trouba. The fact of the matter is that as we speak, his agent Overhardt is negotiating a deal with American GMs, it's gonna be one hell of a deal, it's going to be the best deal ever made. The Jets fans are gonna love the deal, it's gonna be Yuuuuuuge. Jets fans are going to thank Mr Trouba for negotiating such a great deal and trade for them. The Jets will love the trade so much that they will voluntarily pay Mr Trouba for the money he lost holding out. All the other Canadian teams are gonna look and say WOW! THIS IS YUGE! I can't believe how great this is.

Don't listen to media, don't listen to all the accounts of Jets fans hating on Trouba. That's all false. The Jets fans love Trouba, they love him! There is no player the Jets fans love more than Trouba! The media is spreading lies! Everyone loves Trouba! There is no player more popular in all of Canada and Winnipeg than Trouba! The comparable contracts being thrown out are all rigged. You will see when Trouba signs a contract it'll be great. He will go to an American team and be the best defenseman ever. Jets fans will thank him being such a great player and negotiating such a great deal.

Jacob Trouba #MakeHockeyGreatAgain
 

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Jacob Trouba #MakeHockeyGreatAgain
I'm hoping Lamiorello moves on Trouba like a *****.

He's automatically attracted to talent, he just starts trading for them, it's like a magnet. Just trade. He doesn't even wait. And when you're Lou Lamiorello, they let you do it. You can do anything. Gardiner for Trouba. You can do anything.
 

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I see your point however if team trading with Jets is receiving Trouba a right Dman which is valued more then a equal left handed counter part because of supply and demand how are they not helping themselves as well?

Here's a example proposal from me. Trouba for Fowler of Ducks and then Ducks can flip Trouba for whatever they like as a Right Dman worth more in trade market? Fowler solves Jets left Dman issue and is a capable replacement for Trouba??

Fowler has been our best player this year. We have absolutely no reason to trade him for Trouba. We had none before Lindholm signed. This goofy scenario where we trade something of value in order to get something of value to trade is and always will be the dumbest thing that gets proposed around these boards. The absolute dumbest thing. No one does this. If Anaheim decides to trade Fowler, then they'll trade him for something that they need, in a direct fashion. They don't need Winnipeg's help for that. If you want an LD, then I suggest offering something of need for one.
 

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Trouba on Broadway looking more likely but Boston is pushing hard is what I now heard. Detroit too. Original 6 it appears

An alternate view is that, leaking that he doesn't want to play in Canada is the pretext to justify that the agent has torpedoed the player's value and is limiting the potential return as such; since the current situation prevents the GM from examining his full range of available options, it justifies not trading the player until such point as the GM is in charge of the transaction and not the agent. This likely is the pretext to explain why the player might not play in the NHL this season.
 

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I'm starting to come around more and more to a young draft exempt dman+. I really don't want to lose Armia or Dano to expansion.

Losing Armia would sting really badly. Like, really. So this should be considered.
 

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A cheap, young Armia is more valuable than an older, more expensive Perreault. Armia can be protected along with 4D and 3 other F.
 

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Listen, there is no one who loves Canada more than Trouba. There is no one who respects Canadian teams more than Jacob Trouba. The fact of the matter is that as we speak, his agent Overhardt is negotiating a deal with American GMs, it's gonna be one hell of a deal, it's going to be the best deal ever made. The Jets fans are gonna love the deal, it's gonna be Yuuuuuuge. Jets fans are going to thank Mr Trouba for negotiating such a great deal and trade for them. The Jets will love the trade so much that they will voluntarily pay Mr Trouba for the money he lost holding out. All the other Canadian teams are gonna look and say WOW! THIS IS YUGE! I can't believe how great this is.

Don't listen to media, don't listen to all the accounts of Jets fans hating on Trouba. That's all false. The Jets fans love Trouba, they love him! There is no player the Jets fans love more than Trouba! The media is spreading lies! Everyone loves Trouba! There is no player more popular in all of Canada and Winnipeg than Trouba! The comparable contracts being thrown out are all rigged. You will see when Trouba signs a contract it'll be great. He will go to an American team and be the best defenseman ever. Jets fans will thank him being such a great player and negotiating such a great deal.

Jacob Trouba #MakeHockeyGreatAgain

Also, lets just cancel the season and give Winnipeg the Cup and Trouba the Conn Smythe right now. ;)
 

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Darren Dreger, Just pretty much confirmed what i've been saying. That Jacob Trouba has no desire to play for any Canadian team. So we shall see how this goes and if Trouba can't play his normal rightside in Winnipeg then it sounds like he has no desire for Winnipeg period.
 

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Darren Dreger, Just pretty much confirmed what i've been saying. That Jacob Trouba has no desire to play for any Canadian team. So we shall see how this goes and if Trouba can't play his normal rightside in Winnipeg then it sounds like he has no desire for Winnipeg period.

NYR should be interested, he will easily get top 4 minutes and could possible get top 2 minutes pretty fast if he is a good fit with Mcdonagh. Miller, 2017 1st, Klein, Hayes, Skjei should all be on the table for us to try to get Trouba. I dont see Trouba as a comparable to Rielly, Risto etc. He is a little behind them imo and even further behind a guy like Lindholm´s twoway game. Dont know what Jet gm wants in return though but he would fit in very good with our young forward group.
 

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I haven't read 5 threads of this so excuse me if this has been mentioned, but how would the expansion draft influence events with Trouba? Too far in the future?, gives him a bit of leveage?, no effect?
It doesn’t change anything IMO. The Jets will need to protect him either way, which means they will have to go 4 and 4 instead of 6 and 3 but the Jets don’t NEED to protect more than 4 forwards. I like them but loosing Lowry, Armia or Dano isn’t the end of the world.
 

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NYR should be interested, he will easily get top 4 minutes and could possible get top 2 minutes pretty fast if he is a good fit with Mcdonagh. Miller, 2017 1st, Klein, Hayes, Skjei should all be on the table for us to try to get Trouba. I dont see Trouba as a comparable to Rielly, Risto etc. He is a little behind them imo and even further behind a guy like Lindholm´s twoway game. Dont know what Jet gm wants in return though but he would fit in very good with our young forward group.

The Jets ask per Elliotte Friedman:
Unless he gets an elite, young player with term or team control, this is not going anywhere for the time being.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-game-changing-move-seattles-nhl-bid/

None of "Miller, 2017 1st, Klein, Hayes, Skjei" meet that criteria.
 

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NYR should be interested, he will easily get top 4 minutes and could possible get top 2 minutes pretty fast if he is a good fit with Mcdonagh. Miller, 2017 1st, Klein, Hayes, Skjei should all be on the table for us to try to get Trouba. I dont see Trouba as a comparable to Rielly, Risto etc. He is a little behind them imo and even further behind a guy like Lindholm´s twoway game. Dont know what Jet gm wants in return though but he would fit in very good with our young forward group.

Yup all indications are that Jeff Gorton and the Rangers are all in on Jacob Trouba, I think that Trouba would be a perfect fit with the Rangers or maybe Bruins possibly Devils as well. Just depends on what kind of package they can do to entice Cheveldayoff. The same article suggested that Kurt Overhardt is only talking to American clubs on the behalf of his client. I think Trouba would be willing to pretty much play for any American team it just sounds like he doesn't want to play in Canada. If Overhardt tells Cheveldayoff that they're willing to do a deal based around any American team and just omit the Canadian teams. Chevelday should stil get decent trading maybe Arizona or Philly or Carolina quite a few teams have what Chevy would be seeking. Just depends if Philly with Sanheim or Carolina with Hanifin or Arizona with Chychrun are willing to move them.
 

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IMO the priority of options are:

1) We get a young equally valuable LHD as return

2) Trouba signs with jets with understanding we trade him when the right deal comes up (see Kane trade).

3) We get a young BPA forward as return

4) We let Trouba sit out the entire year, this still helps us with all future RFA players moving forward. No one will call the jets bluff ever again.

5) Worse possible thing for the jets to do is trade Trouba for 50 cents on the dollar like fowler or picks or older players. Showing your weakness towards all future RFA players, this becomes more common in the Peg. IMO if any of these happen, it would be a huge strike vs Chevy and one big step towards firing him.

Here's the problem with that though. If that is the case and once a player is drafted by the 'peg and they know they have no hope of ever getting out if something comes up and they want a trade, where is their incentive to even sign an ELC with them. Just sit out and either re-enter the draft in 2 years or if they are playing NCAA, just stay in school for 4 years and the sign with who ever they want.

Is there risk associated with those routes? Of course, but there is also apparently risk in signing with Winnipeg in the fact that they will never let you leave if you want out.
 

nyr__1994

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The Jets ask per Elliotte Friedman:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-game-changing-move-seattles-nhl-bid/

None of "Miller, 2017 1st, Klein, Hayes, Skjei" meet that criteria.

And Rick Nash was only getting traded for Derek Stepan, Chris Kreider and 3 first round picks...

Didn't Freidman also report that the Jets were going to have no issues getting Trouba to sign and he would be in camp over the summer?

My point is, Chevy is simply using Elliotte as a mouthpiece to keep the fans happy in that he seems to be holding his ground.

All signs outside of Winnipeg fans point to a Trouba trade in the next few weeks for the best package available. The sooner the better for everyone invlolved.
 

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Listen, there is no one who loves Canada more than Trouba. There is no one who respects Canadian teams more than Jacob Trouba. The fact of the matter is that as we speak, his agent Overhardt is negotiating a deal with American GMs, it's gonna be one hell of a deal, it's going to be the best deal ever made. The Jets fans are gonna love the deal, it's gonna be Yuuuuuuge. Jets fans are going to thank Mr Trouba for negotiating such a great deal and trade for them. The Jets will love the trade so much that they will voluntarily pay Mr Trouba for the money he lost holding out. All the other Canadian teams are gonna look and say WOW! THIS IS YUGE! I can't believe how great this is.

Don't listen to media, don't listen to all the accounts of Jets fans hating on Trouba. That's all false. The Jets fans love Trouba, they love him! There is no player the Jets fans love more than Trouba! The media is spreading lies! Everyone loves Trouba! There is no player more popular in all of Canada and Winnipeg than Trouba! The comparable contracts being thrown out are all rigged. You will see when Trouba signs a contract it'll be great. He will go to an American team and be the best defenseman ever. Jets fans will thank him being such a great player and negotiating such a great deal.

Jacob Trouba #MakeHockeyGreatAgain

:handclap::laugh: This made my day thank you!
 

Gump Hasek

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All signs outside of Winnipeg fans point to a Trouba trade in the next few weeks for the best package available. The sooner the better for everyone invlolved.

That would be your opinion. I believe it was Dreger that reported Cheveldayoff had received no offers that interested him, and Friedman is reporting the ask and also his expectation that nothing is imminent. "The sooner the better" is also not applicable if Chevy would now prefer to let him sit versus trading him for less than what he views to be Trouba's worth. That value BTW is not necessarily in line with what you may view to be the player's worth.
 

aj8000

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I posted this in the previous Trouba thread - http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2129651&page=21
for Troubadour
I also said it was not in any article posted and that I got it from elsewhere. Fans, mostly from a very nice city somewhere north of The US border, want ape feces and demonized me as a halfwit Eklund nutcase.
Dregers tweet yesterday all but confirms what I already then on September 29th claimed. Eat the blackbird now. Trouba on Broadway looking more likely but Boston is pushing hard is what I now heard. Detroit too. Original 6 it appears

Not sure what city you are referring to; however, most of the Jets fans I have talked tended to agree with your comment that Canada was the problem. I know you have some approved sources, any word on how you think this ends up?
 
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