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I'm not comparing Trouba to Peca. I was just answering the question, who was the last player to sit out a season.
Proposal: Trouba Mega Thread Part IV
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I'm not comparing Trouba to Peca. I was just answering the question, who was the last player to sit out a season.
GoJetsGo55
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WHY NOT US?
When his agent was interviewed on the radio here when this first broke, he was specifically asked if Trouba would stay if he was able to play on the right and Overhardt refused to answer. He got extremely defensive. It was weird. Hence why most think there is a lot more to this than what they are saying.
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Maybe he thinks it's just not right to demand the trade of another player on the team.
Why not assume they'd try Myers on the left instead of Trouba?
He's not concerned about anybody but his client.
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The question specifically was what if Buff or Myers came in tomorrow and said I'll play the left side. If they did that would he sign a contract?
Overhardt tripped over his words to say "what if I asked you if the moon was blue... er orange? We're not going to deal in hypotheticals that would never happen."
The "right side" claim is a ruse, a sham, an excuse.
He knows if he comes right out and says I want to play closer to home in the states so my dad can build some brand empire around him that he would be vilified by basically EVERYONE.
It's been stated MANY times but he was guaranteed the top pair spot with BUFF. And even when he played 3rd pair RHD he was in the top 35 of D minutes played in the NHL. (more than Myers already)
We look forward to the return of Jacob (or his trade replacements) in the nearish future. For the meantime I just pretend he's injured.
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I'm getting more convinced that Trouba's true feelings are that he just wants out of Winnipeg period. And prefers a US destination. Playing right side is just smoke and mirrors so he doesn't look like a complete arse.(too late)
Cheveldayoff has to stand strong or the league will see more of this garbage in the future. Playing in the NHL is s privilege, not a right.
Tough being a Jets fan when a player is demanding a trade. I'm routing against Trouba here. He can goto Europe or Russia and play if he's too good for Winnipeg.
Then Overhardt can get his diminished commissions in Rubles instead of US dollars.
Cheveldayoff has to stand strong or the league will see more of this garbage in the future. Playing in the NHL is s privilege, not a right.
Tough being a Jets fan when a player is demanding a trade. I'm routing against Trouba here. He can goto Europe or Russia and play if he's too good for Winnipeg.
Then Overhardt can get his diminished commissions in Rubles instead of US dollars.
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GoJetsGo55
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I'll keep saying this until I turn blue in the face, Overhardt specifically said that they have refused to look at any offer the Jets have put on the table.
That right there is the most telling part of this whole thing.
That says, it doesn't matter what you put on the table, the answer is NO!
That's a very VERY hard stance to take for someone worried about what side of the ice they get to play on.
That right there is the most telling part of this whole thing.
That says, it doesn't matter what you put on the table, the answer is NO!
That's a very VERY hard stance to take for someone worried about what side of the ice they get to play on.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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Totally agree, I think Trouba wants out of Winnipeg period. Hearing now that his girlfriend wants to attend law/medical can't remember which one school probably there in Michigan and wants him to play in the States or closer to home. It sounding like that would make some sense have seen some Jet fans say that his family wants him to play in the States and closer to home as of now hat's just mere speculation. But if true then yes it has far more to do then just the usage then.
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I had a girl friend when I was 22 who wanted me to move to Vancouver with her where she would take her masters in marine biology. She went and I stayed in Winnipeg where my job was. Wonder what ever happened to her? End of story.
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No interest in either. Fleury probably ends up as a bottom pairing guy IMO, D-men who struggle to put up points in the CHL don’t usually raise much higher than that. Skinner is a good player but he’s not there value wise and we don’t have room on the roster for him even if he was.
Skinner is probably as good an example as any as to why a forward just doesn’t work. Essentially a big part of the value he represents would be lost in the other moves we’d need to make to put him on the roster. He would be modest upgrade on Drew Stafford, but demoting a $4 million 20 goal scorer to the 4th line doesn’t make a lot of sense. He’d very likely be an upgrade over Armia, but that’s not for certain given the raw talent Armia has, and we’d end up losing him on waivers without ever finding out for sure what he can do at the NHL level. We’d could demote Connor or Laine to make room for him and long term that probably doesn’t make us better long term. Even if one of these guys struggle we have guys line Dano in the AHL that we need to look at in the NHL and just didn’t have room for on the opening roster.
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You put wayyy too much stock in promises. They don't mean a thing. If Myers or Buff say they would play the left side, that's no guarantee that they actually will, and it's really up to the coach if they do. It's just a dumb hypothetical that's not worth the agent acknowledging. Once the ink dries on the contract, the promises evaporate and Trouba has no power anymore.
Trouba is also definitely not guaranteed the spot next to Buff at all, despite what anyone says. If Morrissey or another LHD take a step forward then Trouba gets knocked down the depth chart again. If Trouba struggles at all, then they will have no patience with him, just like what was the case last season.
Nevermind that Trouba might feel that playing LHD might diminish his career even if it is next to a great D like Buff.
The only answer with any substantiation is usage. Everything else is just wild speculation with no basis.
what about something like this
To Winnipeg
-Fowler
-Sheahan
To Anaheim
-Tatar
To Detroit
-Trouba
picks and/or prospects could be added to balance things if need be
why it could work
-trouba it sounds (again dregger yesterday) wants to play in detroit(its his top choice) with holland chevy already talking a # of times but detroit lacks the young top 4 LT dman the jets want to make a deal work
-the ducks shed salary to sign their own RFA's and add a young top line winger
-the wings shed enough salary to afford trouba and are able to deal from a position of strength to fill a hole
thoughts?
To Winnipeg
-Fowler
-Sheahan
To Anaheim
-Tatar
To Detroit
-Trouba
picks and/or prospects could be added to balance things if need be
why it could work
-trouba it sounds (again dregger yesterday) wants to play in detroit(its his top choice) with holland chevy already talking a # of times but detroit lacks the young top 4 LT dman the jets want to make a deal work
-the ducks shed salary to sign their own RFA's and add a young top line winger
-the wings shed enough salary to afford trouba and are able to deal from a position of strength to fill a hole
thoughts?
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trouba is that much better than fowler and sheahan? huh... well you learn something everyday i guess
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GoJetsGo55
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Don't get pissy because I don't want your 4th line grinder.
Fowler has value.
GoJetsGo55
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I honestly don't even know at this point. The goalposts in my mind move every day.
I know that player isn't a 4th liner though.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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Yeah because no team would want a bruiser like Sheahan right. He's a David Backes type of player loves to hit people. Pretty sure Cheveldayoff would love to have a player like Sheahan.
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It was reported (by Ansar Khan IIRC) that Chevy asked for two of your top forwards (likely Larkin, + AA who has past history playing with Scheifele) and that Holland blanched.
That is what they want. Something you can't afford to give.
nobody is pissy
i legit would not have thought trouba was better than fowler and sheahan combined
no need to get hysterical
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