Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Trade Deadline Approaches

[dubplatepressure]

I’m weary of giving John an extension of $5 million plus. We’re going to trade real assets for Brayden f***ing Schenn who’s got 3 more years at $6.5 million?

For Christs sake I’m fine dealing futures, but do it for a player at a higher level than Schenn. Jesus. I’d be happier with a rental so we could cut bait if they suck.

Yeah I was much more comfortable with that number at 5 instead of 7.

 

[ToneDog]

I’m weary of giving John an extension of $5 million plus. We’re going to trade real assets for Brayden f***ing Schenn who’s got 3 more years at $6.5 million?

For Christs sake I’m fine dealing futures, but do it for a player at a higher level than Schenn. Jesus. I’d be happier with a rental so we could cut bait if they suck.

Hopefully Army will want to much for Schenn and deal won't be done. I would not sign Tavares until I go shopping on July 1 with $22m and see what is available. If we can get Marner/Ranta and Bennett/Ehlers/Boser for $20+m, I'd then make Tavares an offer. At this point, JT's skating is just not good enough to warrant $7m.

 

[Budz]

The reported prices on these guys are not the price a depth player would cost

If you're paying a 1st+ a decent prospect for Schenn, just keep the assets.

Calling Brayden Schenn depth is pretty funny. He easily could slot in at 2 C for us.

 

[ULF_55]

Im sorry but did I miss the report on where there are bonafide Centers are available in the trade market? Did Brayden Point or Mackinnon become available?

RIght now Scott Laughton's and Brayden Schenn are gonna be the best centers available, so obviously these are the players we're going to be linked too

I doubt very much anyone knows who is available in a hockey trade.

There are obvious names thrown around, but from my recollection, Rantanen wasn't one of them prior to being moved. It was a huge surprise to everyone, except the GM's involved in the deal.

I'd take the trade boards as a moving target and of throw UFA's against the wall and some insider knowledge, and make changes as time moves along.

To start though, Leafs are not flush with anything except a top heavy forward salary cap.

If the Leafs hadn't been so garbage they wouldn't have Matthews or marner or Nylander, which leaves one GM move, Tavares, in their past decade of management. Everything else is tape and bailing wire holding things together. Overpay for overaged defense, and hope they are still on their skates when the playoffs start.

 

[thewave]

Calling Brayden Schenn depth is pretty funny. He easily could slot in at 2 C for us.

Are you kidding me? He is a freaking 40 and change point player. Will do nothing but stir up the silly plan the parade fans. What a waste at the talked about prices

 

[Fogelhund]

Fixed that for you

That's not fixed, it's just unhinged from reality.

 

[Commander Clueless]

Sweet liberty!

I like Schenn and I think he would do well in the 3C hole but holy balls.

He's a good player but his production is not high enough anymore to justify that.

 

[Fogelhund]

I think you're actually being generous.

If the shoe was on the other foot with us dangling Luke or Brayden, we'd be told to add a sweetener to move those contracts.

I'm not worried about what fans of other teams on HFboards think, or would post.

To me, it's upgrading Domi, for a guy who is more physical, better suited for C, and scores far more goals... at a cost of a 2nd.. and more cap space for the same amount of time. It improves our team.

I don't think it gets the deal done though, Armstrong asks for too much most of the time, and I'm not really interested in this first round pick, plus good prospect BS. If that isn't enough... ok, find someone else that costs less. Like Krebs. --> I added this to trigger @thusk

 

[Budz]

Are you kidding me? He is a freaking 40 and change point player. Will do nothing but stir up the silly plan the parade fans. What a waste at the talked about prices

Please share your plans?
Where are all these cheap impact players?

Dazzle me..

 

[1specter]

I’m weary of giving John an extension of $5 million plus. We’re going to trade real assets for Brayden f***ing Schenn who’s got 3 more years at $6.5 million?

For Christs sake I’m fine dealing futures, but do it for a player at a higher level than Schenn. Jesus. I’d be happier with a rental so we could cut bait if they suck.

I genuinely don't understand this. Why not go for Cozens then? Or Parayko? This is idiotic, the cost is more for him than it was for ROR and ROR is a better overall player. ROR is a former Selke winner and had 69 pts just last season, and is the same age.

Why not just go get ROR again then? This is asinine.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I'm not worried about what fans of other teams on HFboards think, or would post.

To me, it's upgrading Domi, for a guy who is more physical, better suited for C, and scores far more goals... at a cost of a 2nd.. and more cap space for the same amount of time. It improves our team.

I don't think it gets the deal done though, Armstrong asks for too much most of the time, and I'm not really interested in this first round pick, plus good prospect BS. If that isn't enough... ok, find someone else that costs less. Like Krebs. --> I added this to trigger @thusk

Krebs and Jokiharju (50% retained) for Dewar, Timmins and a 5th

Cup is ours.

 

[fahad203]

Please share your plans?
Where are all these cheap impact players?

Dazzle me..

I think the argument is that for 1st, prospect you could get another player that maybe a bit better and faster
Brayden Schenn is 33 and relatively slow. He has 33 points this year. Scott Laughton has 27 points

Laughton will not cost you 1st and a prospect..... and doesn't have a 6.5 price tag and 30 years old

Schenn is not the the player he used to be and has another 3 years in his term at 6.5

 

[thewave]

I'm not worried about what fans of other teams on HFboards think, or would post.

To me, it's upgrading Domi, for a guy who is more physical, better suited for C, and scores far more goals... at a cost of a 2nd.. and more cap space for the same amount of time. It improves our team.

I don't think it gets the deal done though, Armstrong asks for too much most of the time, and I'm not really interested in this first round pick, plus good prospect BS. If that isn't enough... ok, find someone else that costs less. Like Krebs. --> I added this to trigger @thusk

For Schenn, they need to take Domi and Kampf or Reaves, then work out the rest. Maybe retain

Really should a serious unloading move if adding a pick.

 

[ULF_55]

I genuinely don't understand this. Why not go for Cozens then? Or Parayko? This is idiotic, the cost is more for him than it was for ROR and ROR is a better overall player. ROR is a former Selke winner and had 69 pts just last season, and is the same age.

Why not just go get ROR again then? This is asinine.

My guess is Treliving knows who might be available, from talking directly to GM's, rather than hearing from "insiders" the bait the GM's give them.

This might be Treliving's last opportunity.
If this season goes poorly, I wouldn't be surprised to see a house cleaning, including Shanahan.

I think he goes big, or he goes home.

 

[1specter]

My guess is Treliving knows who might be available, from talking directly to GM's, rather than hearing from "insiders" the bait the GM's give them.

This might be Treliving's last opportunity.
If this season goes poorly, I wouldn't be surprised to see a house cleaning, including Shanahan.

I think he goes big, or he goes home.

If going big is Brayden Schenn for a first+Cowan/Minten then I'd rather just go home.

 

[The Podium]

I’d rather use the assets individually for a B tier forward and defenseman than blowing our load on Schenn

 

[thewave]

If going big is Brayden Schenn for a first+Cowan/Minten then I'd rather just go home.

Exactly but he has term. If the plan is to keep him they need to unload. 6.5m Schenn

Reaves 1.3
Domi 3.75
Kampf 2.4

Would it pay to pay a pick to make this go away and get Schenn?

 

[ULF_55]

If going big is Brayden Schenn for a first+Cowan/Minten then I'd rather just go home.

Yeah, he would be a risk, just like Ekman-Larsson and Chirs Tanev were.

It isn't like the Domi deal is looking great, and for another 3 years.

Maybe Shanahan should have tried a little harder rather than taking the "he's available" GM.

Maybe Domi for Schenn makes sense then? At least it would be a center, rather than a winger you're forcing to play center?

All in or all out.

 

[Budz]

I think the argument is that for 1st, prospect you could get another player that maybe a bit better and faster
Brayden Schenn is 33 and relatively slow. He has 33 points this year. Scott Laughton has 27 points

Laughton will not cost you 1st and a prospect..... and doesn't have a 6.5 price tag and 30 years old

Schenn is not the the player he used to be and has another 3 years in his term at 6.5

For the record - I am ok Laughton.

But- Points points points. Our fan base is incapable of looking past basics.

St Louis has struggled this year, they are not a high scoring team. He also does not play on the PP and plays against other teams top line.

Now picture him on a third line with Nylander. 6.5 for next couple years with a rising cap is not terrible.

I again will say they need to retain a bit or add a depth player.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Calling Brayden Schenn depth is pretty funny. He easily could slot in at 2 C for us.

Which of John Tavares or Auston Matthews is Schenn going to displace to become a 2C?

Schenn is on pace for 48 points this season, Tavares already has 49 points in 51 GP and Matthews has 48 points in 43 games. He might be a 2C on another team, like he currently is on a non playoff St louis team but hes not a 2c for us.

 

[Budz]

Which of John Tavares or Auston Matthews is Schenn going to displace to become a 2C?

Schenn is on pace for 48 points this season, Tavares already has 49 points in 51 GP and Matthews has 48 points in 43 games. He might be a 2C on another team, like he currently is on a non playoff St louis team but hes not a 2c for us.

Sure, on St Louis.

 

[Hotpot]

I think next year, our team will look like

Knies - Matthews - Marner
McMann - Bennet (Free agent) - Nylander
Tavares - Minten - Grebykin

That leaves.... Domi, Holmberg, Robertson who we can trade for rental center or defense help. Wouldn't go after Schenn given the price. Maybe Domi for Luke Schenn

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Sure, on St Louis.

So when you said "He easily could slot in at 2 C for us."

by 'us' you meant St louis?

 

[1specter]

Exactly but he has term. If the plan is to keep him they need to unload. 6.5m Schenn

Reaves 1.3
Domi 3.75
Kampf 2.4

Would it pay to pay a pick to make this go away and get Schenn?

If the price is a first but Jarnkrok/Domi + Kampf go the other way I could maybe stomach it. Cowan and Minten gotta be left out of the deal though.

 

[LeafEgo]

Is this Ranta stuff for real? Talk about egg on face

Hard to imagine they make the outcome even worse and take the additional hit by simply dragging him over to a contender on the East at the end of it all.

They'd work pretty hard to at least get whole, save face, so roughly getting a Necas/Drury value back - if the picks that went equated to Hall.

Something around Knies and Cowan. Leafs would have to back channel a long term commitment and be confident he can 2C. Essentially a low cap Ranta for one run, and replacing Mitch with a center thereafter.