Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 Season Edition

Does O’Rielly make the Leafs better?

  • Yes

    Votes: 36 57.1%
  • No

    Votes: 24 38.1%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • Total voters
    63
  • Poll closed .

SprDaVE

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Sep 20, 2008
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I doesn't talk about 2 game and i was a pro Woll last year but since his injury, he was not the same. Since he came back of injury, his sv % was at 0,892 % with 4 win 6 lost and was struggling very hard...Its not 2 game who erase 2 month of bad play.

In playoff who should go with the goalir who giving most confidence and it was clearly not Woll.

Going into the playoffs Woll was clearly better, that's just the bottom line. But if you thought Samsonov was better and deserved the net, then it's agree to disagree. Stastically speaking, Woll was better and quite frankly, in hindsight, he was clearly better.
 

thusk

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Jul 15, 2011
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Going into the playoffs Woll was clearly better, that's just the bottom line. But if you thought Samsonov was better and deserved the net, then it's agree to disagree. Stastically speaking, Woll was better and quite frankly, in hindsight, he was clearly better.

since the moment Woll came back of injury until playoff

samsonov sv 0,911% 9W 2L 2 OT
vs
Woll 0,892 4 W 6 L

so you tell me going into playoff Woll was better?!?!?! Stastically speaking Samsonov was far away in front of Woll and it was not even close, sorry. The choice of starting goalie was already made before thry even play that 2 last game you're talking about.
 

Knies iT

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Mar 6, 2015
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Parssinen is interesting. Only 23 and a big bodied C averaging close to 2 hits per game. Had a strong rookie season over .5PPG, + IQ, and a worker bee.

Struggling with confidence issues in NSH but his deployment has been inconsistent and Trotz has been making some questionable moves of late. Don't love his foot speed but there's some untapped offensive skill there.

Could be a cheaper buy-low option and Minten contingency plan who in the short-term can hold down the 4C role.
 

Stephen

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Feb 28, 2002
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Going into the playoffs Woll was clearly better, that's just the bottom line. But if you thought Samsonov was better and deserved the net, then it's agree to disagree. Stastically speaking, Woll was better and quite frankly, in hindsight, he was clearly better.

I don't remember Woll having a great run down the stretch. In his last 9 regular season outings he was sub .900 save percentage for 5 of them, won only 3 games... although putting trust in Samsonov at the time was not the most comfortable feeling at the time and in hindsight an awful decision.

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Menzinger

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Apr 24, 2014
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I really hated how ROR completely snubbed the Leafs to go hide in Tennessee. I wouldn't pay a single asset to trade for him. He wanted this, he got it. I want players that wanna be here.

Ryan Strome would love to be here.

ROR had his chance to extend and snubbed the team. Let him live with his choice and miss the playoffs for the remainder of his current deal as they slide into rebuild mode.

He couldn't deal with the media pressure regardless
 

Americanadian

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Sep 11, 2016
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He wasn't. He was injured for a large part of the season and Keefe wanted to go with the veteran that was hot for awhile during the season, which was a big time mistake. Woll should have started game 1 and beyond. Ullmark was also confused for that reason.

The point is that it's a fairly untested tandem that are playing very well. They have shown to be injured a lot as well. So it's about taking your time with 2 good assets. Adding a center is nice but it's just too risky when they can easily add a player without removing from their goaltending.

Also, I would make the counterpoint the Leafs should sell high on Stolarz and keep the younger goaltender signed longer term. Either way, this is all moot because they aren't gonna do that in season. They signed Stolarz to tandem with Woll (signed in the off-season as well) for a reason, not because they wanted to trade one 3-6 months into the season
The Leafs don’t have a ton of assets to add a good C, especially a young C, unless they dip into future 1st round picks or use Cowan.

Do you think Stolarz would hold nearly as much value as Woll? I don’t see why the older goalie with less term would command nearly as much (look at what Ullmark got in return).
 

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