Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 Season Edition

Does O’Rielly make the Leafs better?

  • Yes

    Votes: 36 57.1%
  • No

    Votes: 24 38.1%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • Total voters
    63
  • Poll closed .

Fogelhund

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He’s realistically the best trade chip to make an impactful change to the playoff roster and future roster.

There’s only 1 goalie in the net at any given moment. A good 3C is more impactful than a backup G in the playoffs.

The only reason I’d move Woll before Stolarz is because of his significant injury history (ironically Stolarz goes out as I type this).

This is exactly why you don't move Woll... you comfortable with Murray in net if Stolarz gets hurt in your scenario? I like AA and Hildeby, but zero NHL experience... you just can't do this at all.
 

Americanadian

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This is exactly why you don't move Woll... you comfortable with Murray in net if Stolarz gets hurt in your scenario? I like AA and Hildeby, but zero NHL experience... you just can't do this at all.
Im not comfortable with Woll taking the majority of starts either. Has Woll ever proven he can handle a starters load?
 

Fogelhund

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Im not comfortable with Woll taking the majority of starts either. Has Woll ever proven he can handle a starters load?

Moreso than AA or Hildeby.

It's been said about the Leafs, that they have the best goaltending in the league so far this year... you just don't break that up.
 

Americanadian

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Moreso than AA or Hildeby.

It's been said about the Leafs, that they have the best goaltending in the league so far this year... you just don't break that up.
They said that about Boston the last 2 years - the only team they beat in the playoffs was the Leafs and it wasn’t because they had 2 great goalies.
 

Americanadian

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Sorry, that's just nuts.
How good do you think Woll is?

He’s never played more than 30 games in a season as a pro due to injuries.

He wasn’t a top 20 goalie by sv% in the AHL until his age 24 season (4th pro season) and he didn't even play enough games to have his stats qualify on the AHL website. Hildeby was a top 20 goalie in year 1 at age 22.

Woll finally broke into the NHL full time last year and finished 30th in sv%, 33rd in GSAx. He couldn't even beat out Samsonov for the playoff starter job despite Samsonov posting a .890 sv%.

On top of that - he wasn't healthy enough to play in game 7 and then turns around and isn't available for game 1 this season.

He is playing excellent this season and he very well could end up a top 5 goalie but that's hardly a certainty.

If you think it's "nuts" to suggest moving off him for a 21 year old C that's pacing for 55 points in his 4th full season then good for you.
 
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SHANNYPLAN

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Leafs - Blue Jackets
Mathieu Olivier
For
Nick Robertson, Ryan Reaves & 3rd

Leafs - Predators

Ryan O’Rielly & Luke Schenn (50% ret)
For
David Kampf, Topi Niemela & 1st 2026

Playoff Lines


Knies - - Matthews - - Domi*
Pacioretty- Tavares - Nylander
McMann - - O’Rielly - - Marner*
Dewar/Lorentz/Minten - Olivier

McCabe - Tanev
Rielly - - Schenn
Benoit - - - OEL
 

jaric1862

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Similar to how the Leafs wanted Tanev/Zadorov in a package last year, I wouldn't be opposed to a Gourde/Borgen package this year.
 

Kiwi

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I can appreciate your viewpoint. At 50%, maybe.. certainly not full hit. Even then, it's if they are basically giving him away. The only attractive thought to obtain him, is that he's a player who worked VERY well with Rielly last time. We thought he was tool old and toast last time too.. but then they just really worked well together. He's been much better this year, than last... actually I'd say fairly decent. His on ice expected goals is 47.5%, just slightly below team average, while starting over 60% of the time in the Dzone... second heaviest defensive assignment on the team... that's not bad, considering how bad they've been.

Or, maybe as a package deal with RoR... if we decide that we needed a C upgrade, and he was the guy, and wanted to come back.... He did have success with Berube in the past, so you never know.

People were talking originally about needing someone to work well with Rielly, so it was a thought... who knows if that's what we end up needing....

That was a couple of years ago, so I'd still be careful with him and if they have to eat 50% they will probably want something to make it worthwhile, it's not huge money but it's enough

I wouldn't mind him as a throw in with an ROR deal but if we're looking for a partner for Rielly I think we may need somebody a bit better, I wouldn't mind some puck moving ability either
 

Dreakmur

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Similar to how the Leafs wanted Tanev/Zadorov in a package last year, I wouldn't be opposed to a Gourde/Borgen package this year.

I’m not sure I’d accept Borgen on his contract if they offered to give him to us for free. He’s a 6/7, which we don’t need at all… and at a 2.7 million cap hit…
 

Puckstuff

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Love the idea of bringing back ROR but I was poking my head around the Nashville board and there fans seem to think there is no way Trotz will ever move him… maybe if they continue to slide and we make a big enough offer we could convince them other wise but it might be hard to pull off. Ryan Strome is another name I like, not as much as ROR but it could be a decent option, especially if the Ducks retain some salary. We would need to dump Kampf+Jarnkrok in any deal for a higher paid 3c.

Knies-Matthew-Domi
Patches-Tavares-Nylander
McMann-ROR-Marner
Lorentz-Minten-Grebenkin
 

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