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Menzinger said:
He's also currently on pace for 27 points.....

They don't have to give him away, but his value on the open market isn't going to be particularly high. Even factoring his career high of 24 goals and 41 points over 82 games.

I'm not sure I'd include a 1st for a player like that let alone more
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like I said, a deal with Toronto would likely be multi-player and would have have to include a scoring forward. Matthews and Marner are untouchable.
 
Kiwi said:
So? You aren't getting one of those for a middle 6 center having an average season

You want that it's going to cost, think Timo Meier expensive
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That’s right. That’s why it’d likely be a multi player deal.

Now, I would have offered Nylander in a deal for Soros several years ago.
 
Kiwi said:
No, just no

You do not trade Nylander for "lots of stuff"

He's to valuable and we aren't tanking so no to multi piece deals where we are giving up the best player (by a country mile
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The only thing I have been curious about is what happens when July 1st rolls around and you make your best offers to Matthews and Nylander...what happens if you can't get it done with Nylander? I suppose you'll know by July 1st as I would personally want to have it ready to be announced that day, a hand shake deal ahead of time.

Heck, I think I would want to know at the draft if these guys want to be Leafs for the next 8 years.

Otherwise you need to trade. I love them both but I am not letting either walk.
 
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Dekes For Days said:
Well, "legal hits" wouldn't usually be characterized as "taking liberties". There's nothing scary about legal hits. Most if not all players just play normally, and their biggest concern in terms of things to look out for are high skilled players that can make you pay on the scoreboard, not somebody who lays hits. They know how to take hits. They do it all the time.

Physicality is not outlawed or worthless, but even in this theoretical world where a physical player coming towards a player forces them into a quicker decision, that would just make it one of many attributes that do the same thing. If somebody is really fast, it would do the same thing. If somebody is really good at stickwork and can steal the puck from you when they get close, it would be the same thing. If somebody has a high hockey IQ and can anticipate and close off lanes, it would be the same thing. Etc. And yet only one attribute is held up as more important than the others, when it's just another possible tool for an objective with multiple paths.
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To your first, I agree.
To your second, I agree that there are other ways in which a player can disrupt an opponent. I completely fail to understand why some can't accept that a player can be physical while at the same time possess some of the other characteristics you've just well described.
 
Nineteen67 said:
That’s right. That’s why it’d likely be a multi player deal.

Now, I would have offered Nylander in a deal for Soros several years ago.
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Which is stupid. But what else should we expect from a Preds fan trolling our board because he's a "sponsor"
 
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Since our goalies have great stats what about trading our keeeper, maybe the young one Samsonov plus a pick for demko
That would be a great start long term
 
Dragao6 said:
Since our goalies have great stats what about trading our keeeper, maybe the young one Samsonov plus a pick for demko
That would be a great start long term
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I think we're keeping Samsonov.

If Murray is injured or something, I would probably give Woll a start...Samsonov-Woll tandem next year.

Utilize Murray's $$ elsewhere.
 
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Dragao6 said:
Since our goalies have great stats what about trading our keeeper, maybe the young one Samsonov plus a pick for demko
That would be a great start long term
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Are you kidding? Not only was Samsonov a far more highly regarded prospect between the 2, I wouldn't do it straight up if they were both healthy.

 
leafsfan5 said:
alright let's get Henrique + Comtois
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What's the obsession with both of these guys? I'm not convinced that either of these guys moves the needle much on the Leafs especially with Comtois. I guess people are hope a change in scenery might help, but he hasn't really done much in the NHL except for that little bit of 20-21 where he put up half decent numbers.
 
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meefer said:
To your second, I agree that there are other ways in which a player can disrupt an opponent. I completely fail to understand why some can't accept that a player can be physical while at the same time possess some of the other characteristics you've just well described.
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I don't see anybody not accepting that a player can be physical and have other attributes. The issue seems to be more that some people want to spend assets to make sideways moves in order to chase the one specific attribute they overrate.
 
GQS said:
What's the obsession with both of these guys? I'm not convinced that either of these guys moves the needle much on the Leafs especially with Comtois. I guess people are hope a change in scenery might help, but he hasn't really done much in the NHL except for that little bit of 20-21 where he put up half decent numbers.
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Henrique is one of the only sources of competence on an awful Anaheim team. He's pacing for 31 goals/51 points and will provide depth scoring this team needs. He'll likely play 3C for us, but can step up to 2C and potentially go on LW at times. He's also signed for an extra year so we aren't getting a pure rental here

Comtois is more of a throw in to see if we can get lucky with him. He's a young player who has been in absolutely depressing environment, maybe a change of scenery is what he needs. If he works out you suddenly got the 2LW type of player you really wanted
 
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I think Sandin should be packaged for an impact forward(hopefully with some grit and physicality as well)

Timmins can be used as a 7th or 8th D

Need another Defensive Dman

McCabe
Gavrikov
Murphy
 
leafsfan5 said:
Henrique is one of the only sources of competence on an awful Anaheim team. He's pacing for 31 goals/51 points and will provide depth scoring this team needs. He'll likely play 3C for us, but can step up to 2C and potentially go on LW at times. He's also signed for an extra year so we aren't getting a pure rental here

Comtois is more of a throw in to see if we can get lucky with him. He's a young player who has been in absolutely depressing environment, maybe a change of scenery is what he needs. If he works out you suddenly got the 2LW type of player you really wanted
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Would like Henrique at a cheaper salary
 
stickty111 said:
Holl has been good. Maybe it's time to admit Rielly brings down every partner. Holl has his first bad game and guess who was his partner
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Only one who can really play with Rielly is Brodie unfortunately.

Would prefer Brodie on a shutdown pair with one of the new deadline Dmen we should get.

Gavrikov or McCabe
 
Leaffan1991 said:
Only one who can really play with Rielly is Brodie unfortunately.

Would prefer Brodie on a shutdown pair with one of the new deadline Dmen we should get.

Gavrikov or McCabe
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It was only a few games but Liljergen played well with Rielly. Mo has had his best games of the season beside him

If we go Rielly - Liljergen you free up Brodie to go on a shutdown pair
 
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