Proposal: Trade Rumors/Proposals Thread 2013-2014 | Part IV

[HSF]

i wouldn't read too much into murray saying we need to fix this from within

 

[Tundraman]

I never use those things. Much more entertaining to watch people flip out.

If that's the case then try this on for size. The rumour is Varlomov + for Anderson +

 

[HSF]

people can cry all they want about moving Spezza but a player like Spezza isn't going to be moved IN SEASON.

So please save everyone's time and stop repeating that we need to deal him over and over and over again (certain few posters)


He isn't moving right now so why talk about it? It gets tiring coming here and reading post after post from the same posters about how we should look into a Spezza deal.


Talk about more realistic deals

 

[Qward]

unless it is EJ coming over there is nothing else from Colorados back end that interests me.

 

[derriko]

Don't they have some close to NHL ready puck movers? Off the top of my head they have Barrie and Elliott.

I think Barrie is on the big team now and producing, but Elliott seems to have stalled a little bit. I haven't read up on them in a while but I think some Avs fans were disappointed in Elliott.

 

[Caeldan]

Crazy question... But would Tlusty work as a winger for Spezza?
He's apparently available (though Tuomo Ruutu might be packaged together)... and we have some young puck moving type D that could be sent back in return... or maybe even Corvo

 

[Caeldan]

If that's the case then try this on for size. The rumour is Varlomov + for Anderson +

Until Varlamov's legal issues are sorted I doubt he'd be able to get a work visa for Canada?

 

[Very Stable Genius]

Mikael Backlund anyone? Could be a decent reclamation project on the cheap.

 

[Caeldan]

Mikael Backlund anyone? Could be a decent reclamation project on the cheap.

Isn't he a center though? Not like we need another one there (and his FO% is only ~46... so not stellar...)

 

[Caeldan]

Seriously though... I think Tlusty might actually work with Spezza if you read how he plays and the fact that he worked in the past with Semin and Staal well... Try to turn him into another Dany Heatley maybe?

Just not sure what we've got to move... or maybe we make a move for MDZ first, then send MDZ for Tlusty? (plus whatever else to balance things out on either side especially if we have to take on Ruutu as well).

 

[Qward]

I would rather try Stone or Hoffman before Tlusty.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

i wouldn't read too much into murray saying we need to fix this from within

I came here to post this. When we were going hard after Turris, there was little talk in the rumour front before the trade.

Murray always makes these subtle moves to throw off GMs and news outlets which makes good bargaining chips cause it doesn't drive player's value involved.

Lol OK. If you say so. I wasn't even taking about their relative performances this year. I was talking about their contributions and what they bring to the team when healthy and playing well.

However how many times has Karlsson been first star or led this team to victory this year? He's definitely been the most impactful...I wouldn't say in a positive way.

At least when Karlsson plays offensively he tries his best and is unbelievable at it. Spezza just doesn't give a **** both ends of the ice most nights.

Not only has Spezza been worse defensively(statistically) he also has been below average offensively for his standards. I honestly don't know how he's almost PPG. Just shows you how much talent he has but he doesn't use it fully. He could be at 25-30 points.

 

[Marty Straka]

If that's the case then try this on for size. The rumour is Varlomov + for Anderson +

Where the heck did you read that? Why would they want to trade Varlamov who's younger and played better then Anderson who has already had his run in Colorado

 

[Super Cake]

Where the heck did you read that? Why would they want to trade Varlamov who's younger and played better then Anderson who has already had his run in Colorado

Wait a minute. I thought he was being sarcastic with that trade proposal. Is that actually a real rumor?

 

[Marty Straka]

Wait a minute. I thought he was being sarcastic with that trade proposal. Is that actually a real rumor?

I never know with people on these boards anymore lol

 

[Super Cake]

I never know with people on these boards anymore lol

If it is a real rumor, it does not make sense at all.

 

[Quo]

Context helps.

Andre Benoit for Gryba and a 2nd.

Sure hope you forgot the

I never use those things. Much more entertaining to watch people flip out.

If that's the case then try this on for size. The rumour is Varlomov + for Anderson +

 

[BonkTastic]

Wait a minute. I thought he was being sarcastic with that trade proposal. Is that actually a real rumor?

There's no possible way it's a real rumor, considering how bad the relationship was between Andy & the Avs when he was traded to us.

 

[Super Cake]

There's no possible way it's a real rumor, considering how bad the relationship was between Andy & the Avs when he was traded to us.

That is why i am choosing to believe that it was just sarcasm.

 

[YNWA14]

At least when Karlsson plays offensively he tries his best and is unbelievable at it. Spezza just doesn't give a **** both ends of the ice most nights.

Beyond ridiculous. You see what you want to see, but anyone actually watching without a predisposition towards Spezza can see how much he's been trying this year. Early in the season he just didn't have legs, and lately he's been showing a ton of effort and has been much better in both ends.

Not only has Spezza been worse defensively(statistically) he also has been below average offensively for his standards. I honestly don't know how he's almost PPG. Just shows you how much talent he has but he doesn't use it fully. He could be at 25-30 points.

Spezza could easily have 25 points if the play didn't die on the stick of most of his linemates almost instantly. I can't count the number of times Spezza has made a nice pass or set up a play for Greening or Michalek and they've just let it die pretty much right away. It's like they enter the offensive zone, and if Spezza doesn't carry it himself it is immediately brought back out.

That said obviously he hasn't been playing right up to his standards, but Karlsson also has a ton of points just by virtue of being on the point of the powerplay for almost literally every minute of every powerplay.

Karlsson and Spezza are very similar players when you breakdown their strengths (when healthy ,and playing well they're both great offensive players, poor to decent defensive players who make a lot of high-risk players and are good at carrying the puck). Spezza has been a whipping boy forever but Karlsson has been a god. It's just funny and hypocritical.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

I would rather try Stone or Hoffman before Tlusty.

Man, you hold the all-time record for changing avatars.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Karlsson and Spezza are very similar players when you breakdown their strengths (when healthy ,and playing well they're both great offensive players, poor to decent defensive players who make a lot of high-risk players and are good at carrying the puck). Spezza has been a whipping boy forever but Karlsson has been a god. It's just funny and hypocritical.

Lmfao at the bolded. Karlsson was named the best player in the league last year. Spezza has never been mentioned in the same breathe of those honours.

Also, yes... it's Spezza's linemates fault for not catching his consistent drop-passes. Or for not helping him in the corners when he's reaching instead of hustling.

No, Spezza is not the whipping boy. He has been on the ice for most goals in the league among all forwards. THINK about that. Spezza's puck possession numbers are some of the worst he has ever posted. He has been on the ice for almost highest SA in the league. He hasn't established much chemistry.

Look at my previous posts about Spezza. I keep things neutral. I praise Spezza when he deserves it but right now he is horrid. Doesn't take a genius to know that.

Karlsson at least still does some great defensive plays, he still is a legend offensively and he still drives puck possession and breakouts like no other in the league. That's why he is still godly.

 

[BonkTastic]

Crazy question... But would Tlusty work as a winger for Spezza?
He's apparently available (though Tuomo Ruutu might be packaged together)... and we have some young puck moving type D that could be sent back in return... or maybe even Corvo

Bringing in Tlusty and being forced to take on Ruutu is one step forward (Tlusty), two steps back (Ruutu).

 

[Qward]

Man, you hold the all-time record for changing avatars.

Don't know what you are talking about...

Bringing in Tlusty and being forced to take on Ruutu is one step forward (Tlusty), two steps back (Ruutu).

Ruutu steps back?

 

[BonkTastic]

Ruutu steps back?