HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024-25 Season

[vokiel]

You know that a 2nd centerline spot, the player need to make around 45-60 pts at minimum and more?

I could see Micheal Hage to become a real 2nd centerman, but Kapanen and Beck. This is a huge ecpectation and at 90% not realistic in my opinion.

Not necessarily, but I agree, ideally they should eventually reach that range in their career. We've had plenty of 2C who didn't produce in that range right? Without being a bottom team even. I mean the league having 32 clubs changes that figure from division to division.

I see Hage as 1st line C potential.

 

[morhilane]

So if Jiricek can't make it on a bad team, is that a red flag? I mean why the buzz around this kid???

Former 6th oa from the 2022 draft.

Jiricek can't make it in the NHL, because his offense dies out and he can't play defense at that level.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Friedman speculating that Pittsburgh might be looking at Dach.

32 thoughts around the 22 minute mark

 

[Andy]

Friedman speculating that Pittsburgh might be looking at Dach.

32 thoughts around the 22 minute mark

Damn. There really isn’t anyone on the Pens I want that badly except Crosby

 

[vokiel]

Friedman speculating that Pittsburgh might be looking at Dach.

32 thoughts around the 22 minute mark

Neither team is in a position to make any significant purchases, what a weird take.

 

[Benstheman]

Damn. There really isn’t anyone on the Pens I want that badly except Crosby

Crosby for Dach, Habs 2026's 1st and Mailloux

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Crosby for Dach, Habs 2026's 1st and Mailloux

i think that IF Crosby is traded it will be to the team of his choice and the return wont be that great probably a 1st and B prospect

 

[Hins77]

Not necessarily, but I agree, ideally they should eventually reach that range in their career. We've had plenty of 2C who didn't produce in that range right? Without being a bottom team even. I mean the league having 32 clubs changes that figure from division to division.

I see Hage as 1st line C potential.

You expectation are a notch too high in my opinion. It depend what kind of team you want. Jack Hugues is a first center, Jack Eichel too. They were just destroying the ushl/NCAA. Nick Suzuki wich is a 1B centerman in the NHL was litterally dominating the OHL. I mean, Hage is a solid piece in the NCAA as Snuggerud, as Mcgroarty.., but to expect that this guy is gonna be better than Suzuki. I can’t see it. Bettet than Dach, yes I could see
I think there is a difference between « to be good » and « destroying » the league even at young age. Suzuki, Eichel, Hugues were destroying the league. And they are first line Centerman. Hage is good, but I don’t think he is destroying the NCAA

 

[WeThreeKings]

Friedman speculating that Pittsburgh might be looking at Dach.

32 thoughts around the 22 minute mark

They can look, he's more valuable to us than what anyone would pay for him. Especially the Penguins unless they wanna give up their unprotected first this year.

 

[vokiel]

You expectation are a notch too high in my opinion. It depend what kind of team you want. Jack Hugues is a first center, Jack Eichel too. They were just destroying the ushl/NCAA. Nick Suzuki wich is a 1B centerman in the NHL was litterally dominating the OHL. I mean, Hage is a solid piece in the NCAA as Snuggerud, as Mcgroarty.., but to expect that this guy is gonna be better than Suzuki. I can’t see it. Bettet than Dach, yes I could see
I think there is a difference between « to be good » and « destroying » the league even at young age. Suzuki, Eichel, Hugues were destroying the league. And they are first line Centerman. Hage is good, but I don’t think he is destroying the NCAA

Plekanec became a 1st line C. The league has 32 clubs, the 1st line C isn't necessarily a top pick. You could spend north of a decade in drafts looking for your definition of a first line center. It's no longer manageable. Hage should slot in right about the time when Nick is deciding whether he wants to stay or not. By that time, I expect Beck or Kapanen to be established as well.

 

[Benstheman]

i think that IF Crosby is traded it will be to the team of his choice and the return wont be that great probably a 1st and B prospect

I think if Crosby accepts a trade, he does for the Penguin s organization to start the rebuild properly. And following this premiss, i doubt he handcuffs them by saying there is only 1 team he wants to be traded. IMO, he will give them 2-3 teams to at least imply some sort of betting war.

 

[vokiel]

They can look, he's more valuable to us than what anyone would pay for him. Especially the Penguins unless they wanna give up their unprotected first this year.

He's valuable to us?? For getting another top pick you mean?

 

[Benstheman]

Plekanec became a 1st line C. The league has 32 clubs, the 1st line C isn't necessarily a top pick. You could spend north of a decade in drafts looking for your definition of a first line center. It's no longer manageable. Hage should slot in right about the time when Nick is deciding whether he wants to stay or not. By that time, I expect Beck or Kapanen to be established as well.

I'm sure Beck will establish himself quite easily. Kapanen, i'm not sure, let alone as a centerman.

I think Hage is probably a sure thing top 6 center and Beck a bottom 6 one.

That being said, i don't know if i am being good with a centerline of :

1-Suzuki
2-Hage
3-Dach
4-Beck

I guess if Suzuki/Hage become 1a/1b type of duo, i would be good with this.

 

[morhilane]

He's valuable to us?? For getting another top pick you mean?

Dvorak/Evans are UFA, Dach is the only other NHL center who can pay the position somewhat on the roster.

Next season is going to be so disgusting.

 

[vokiel]

Dvorak/Evans are UFA, Dach is the only other NHL center who can pay the position somewhat on the roster.

Next season is going to be so disgusting.

The difference between Condotta and Dach isn't enough for me not to consider trading his ass if some illuminated GM offers. Hell we could do just as well with a waiver wire. So if the Pens are for some reason looking at Dach,... (I don't really believe Friedman, anyhow)

 

[sampollock]

They can look, he's more valuable to us than what anyone would pay for him. Especially the Penguins unless they wanna give up their unprotected first this year.

for what??? tape and a stick right now they way he is playing