HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #87: 2024 Season Finale

[GrandmaCookie]

This is insane and I can imagine few teams will avoid drafting NCAA guys. Could you imagine Slaf or Reinbacher doinv something similar and forcing move out of Montreal?
Reinbacher could have just said that MTL fans are idiots how they reacted to his draft.

Cutting the NCAA pools of player from your draft option seems drastic tho.

 

[GrandmaCookie]

The McGroarty availability makes so much sense for MTL. We have assets to deal with plenty of good young dmen and we need to improve up front. He also fits the age Hughes is targeting. It makes so much sense…

WPG probably looking for immediate help if they part with that kind of A level prospect, before the Helleybuck window close.

Pegs fan seems to say that they needs are 2C and top 4 RHD.

Not sure we have the pieces for him.

I could see them packaging him and a their 2025 1st round pick to grab a big fish.

 

[Gustave]

WPG probably looking for immediate help if they part with that kind of A level prospect, before the Helleybuck window close.

Pegs fan seems to say that they needs are 2C and top 4 RHD.

Not sure we have the pieces for him.

I could see them packaging him and a their 2025 1st round pick to grab a big fish.

WPG fans also laughed off Mony, but he probably ended up being the best deadline acquisition out there.

Chevy and Hughes have spent time on deals before so I wouldn’t brush that off yet.

 

[417]

yeah, but there are 31 other teams who would offer "more" than 26th + Harris. Habs Mngmnt simply haven't understood how to "let go of prospects" to improve the roster... We have way too many prospects and picks rn, and those assets have to be used to improve the top 6. Mcgroarty is a legit top 6, young and pedigree.
So he doesn;t want to play in Winnipeg? quite frankly I dont blame him. unless CC and Hutson have anything bad to say about their national team Captain, I cant see why Hugo wouldn't offer what it would take to make that happen. Everyone penciling in Dach for next year, but he hasn't shown he can stay healthy for one year (ever), and all his injuries have been season ending.. insane to put faith in his longevity.

Isn't McGroaty a prospect himself?

 

[Egresch]

Cutting the NCAA pools of player from your draft option seems drastic tho.

You are Philadelphia at 12 and you can choose between Buium and Parekh and you evaluate them at same level.

Isn't McGroaty a prospect himself?

He obviously thinks he is NHL ready and deserves a spot

 

[Milhouse40]

WPG probably looking for immediate help if they part with that kind of A level prospect, before the Helleybuck window close.

Pegs fan seems to say that they needs are 2C and top 4 RHD.

Not sure we have the pieces for him.

I could see them packaging him and a their 2025 1st round pick to grab a big fish.

McGroarty is a very good prospect but with 0 games in either the NHL or AHL. There's a price for potential and it's not exactly a 2C in the NHL.

Winnipeg has the problem of being now the only team (With Arizona gone) on every single NTC out there, even those with only 3 teams. That shrink their possibilities.

 

[GrandmaCookie]

McGroarty is a very good prospect but with 0 games in either the NHL or AHL. There's a price for potential and it's not exactly a 2C in the NHL.

Winnipeg has the problem of being now the only team (With Arizona gone) on every single NTC out there, even those with only 3 teams. That shrink their possibilities.

I agree in a way. Cautter Gauthier trade might be a example.

They would probably look at Hutson or Mailloux tho, not Beck and Harris.

 

[Milhouse40]

I agree in a way. Cautter Gauthier trade might be a example.

They would probably look at Hutson or Mailloux tho, not Beck and Harris.

It is an example...but Gauthier's potential is higher than McGroarty, so a little bit lower...not a chance Hutson's name is mentioned and don't underestimate the value of Harris, he's the one with 2 seasons of experience at only 23 and improving in the big league, that has value for teams.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Matheson + 26 for Necas

And

Mailloux for McGroarty?

Pass on the Matheson deal. Best I'd do us one for one. Not adding to that especially when you take into consideration the team acquiring him is basically against the wall and almost certainly has to meet his demands, which sound like they're around 7.5 per season.

Necas has 2 seasons over 50 points and for some reason people like to think he's a 70 point player.

For comparison, Zegras has 2 60 point seasons and younger.

It's possibly Necas can be a more offensive player in a different system, but once you acquire him you have to sign him. Seems like he's looking for at least 7.5 per.

His dad is potentially an issue and an unwanted distraction for the team.

Necas apparently wants to be a centre despite sucking at it. Montreal already has a centre they're working with who can't win faceoffs.

I don't know what he and the Hurricanes organization are thinking, but I hope Hughes stays far, far away from that.

 

[HuGo Sham]

watch HuGo send the jets back their 1st + Barron + Calgary 1st next year for McGroarty
and then move Matheson and Harris for Necas
and draft Biuim at 5.

yes, I had a fever dream

 

[sampollock]

Math and 26
For
McGroarty and pegs 2nd round pick

 

[McGuires Corndog]

watch HuGo send the jets back their 1st + Barron + Calgary 1st next year for McGroarty
and then move Matheson and Harris for Necas
and draft Biuim at 5.

yes, I had a fever dream

It’s a solid plan.

Hughes needs to be in on these players and by all accounts, sounds like he is.

 

[sampollock]

It’s a solid plan.

Hughes needs to be in on these players and by all accounts, sounds like he is.

It's time for him start using all these pics that he's gathered over the past couple of years into some young talent

 

[HuGo Sham]

It’s a solid plan.

Hughes needs to be in on these players and by all accounts, sounds like he is.

if he somehow grabs both + another skilled d, habs have a legitimate, high quality top 6

 

[Gustave]

watch HuGo send the jets back their 1st + Barron + Calgary 1st next year for McGroarty
and then move Matheson and Harris for Necas
and draft Biuim at 5.

yes, I had a fever dream

Totally acceptable outcome.

Could even go Dickenson at 5, would’nt change my mind about it.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

It's time for him start using all these pics that he's gathered over the past couple of years into some young talent

Exactly.

Now is a great time to roll the dice on some young prospects ready to take the leap.

Necas has already scored 70 in this league, McGroarty has looked fantastic and has Top 6 upside for sure, Buium has potential to be Matheson on steroids.

It’s the types of moves when you look back 5 years from now you see these are what brought us to the finish line.

if he somehow grabs both + another skilled d, habs have a legitimate, high quality top 6

Gostisbehere could be a potential stop-gap D man for a few years while you wait for Buium to take the jump. It would be a downgrade from Matheson, sure, but sometimes you need to take a step back today to take two steps forward tomorrow.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

watch HuGo send the jets back their 1st + Barron + Calgary 1st next year for McGroarty
and then move Matheson and Harris for Necas
and draft Biuim at 5.

yes, I had a fever dream

3 first picks for a guy that hasnt played in the NHL lol

 

[HuGo Sham]

3 first picks for a guy that hasnt played in the NHL lol

Barron might have lower value now and the picks are late 1st rounders. We might be I surprised by what jets get for him

 

[Gustave]

3 first picks for a guy that hasnt played in the NHL lol

I’m here for it.

It’s a more known quantity than what we might get with late 1sts (think Mesar Sherback Poehling etc etc).

 

[Saundies]

Apparently Friedman on his 32 Thoughts podcast said the Caps aren't done even after getting Dubois and there's a bit of smoke there. I brought this up yesterday too and nobody really bit -- could Lapierre or McMichael be a player or two we go after now that PLD has taken up a top 6 role there?

It'd be similar to getting Newhook out of COL when Ryan Johansen pushed him out.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Struble/Harris/Beck/Mailloux/Barron + #26

for

McGroarty

/please never make a proposal again, thanks.

 

[le_sean]

I’m here for it.

It’s a more known quantity than what we might get with late 1sts (think Mesar Sherback Poehling etc etc).

He’s the type of character player Hughes would love as well. I know he doesn’t want to sign in Winnipeg, but he’s captain material.

 

[sampollock]

He’s the type of character player Hughes would love as well. I know he doesn’t want to sign in Winnipeg, but he’s captain material.

Let's go get him

 

[Michelangelo]

/please never make a proposal again, thanks.

What’s the issue here?

I have zero concerns about parting with one of those assets and #26 to get McGroarty

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

What’s the issue here?

I have zero concerns about parting with one of those assets and #26 to get McGroarty

Beck/Mailloux and the 26th is an overpay.