HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[CheldishGamibno]

Trading for Zegras is going to cost us our first this year as a start. I am preparing myself for this. Most expect us to trade the Winnipeg first, but we may keep it to draft third line support talent instead.

I don't think Zegras is worth a top 8 pick in this year's draft

 

[Goalfield13]

I don't think Zegras is worth a top 8 pick in this year's draft

I don't like the idea either, but I feel it in my bones, man.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I don't like the idea either, but I feel it in my bones, man.

I don’t think so and I hope not.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I don't think Zegras is worth a top 8 pick in this year's draft

He should be worth that + but I doubt HuGo moves it unless it is outside the top 10 and there is no player that they particularly like when the pick comes up. they would probably offer the Winnipeg pick and prospects. Or if they get another late 1st. Both late 1sts +.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

I don't think Zegras is worth a top 8 pick in this year's draft

Same here, they could have the Jets pick ++

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

HuGo won't trade the Habs 1st if it's a top 10 pick.

Assuming we can't get Zegras in another matter (ex: trading jets 1st + flames 1st + Barron), I can very much see Hughes offering the habs first-round pick if its towards the end of the bottom 10.

The habs are at the point where they want to start competing for a playoff spot, and if they drafted a forward with pick 8-10, they would dream he would be as good as Zegras at 22 years old. If you look at all the forwards drafted since 2016 between picks 8-10, Zegras is the 2nd best only behind Cozens.

 

[The Great Weal]

Same here, they could have the Jets pick ++

Anaheim isn't trading Zegras for a package where the biggest piece is a late 1st. If we are picking 8-10 then that pick would need to be traded for Zegras if we are going down that route. Even though he's got flaws, back to back 60 point seasons before 22 year olds on a dog shit team is going to be worth a good bit.

 

[HuGort]

Trading for Zegras is going to cost us our first this year as a start. I am preparing myself for this. Most expect us to trade the Winnipeg first, but we may keep it to draft third line support talent instead.

If Hughes trades our pick for Zegras you want to get use to a lot of losing.

 

[waitin425]

If Hughes trades our pick for Zegras you want to get use to a lot of losing.

Do you have a cut off for trading this pick? Me personally, pre-draft and I'd trade 10th. At the draft, if we are sitting say 7th and Mack, Lindstrom and Demidov are gone, I'd probably do it. I'd hold firm for those three though.

The chances Catton, Helenius or Eiserman surpass what Zegras has already done (2 x 60+ pts seasons) are there, but slim at best.

 

[HuGort]

Do you have a cut off for trading this pick? Me personally, pre-draft and I'd trade 10th. At the draft, if we are sitting say 7th and Mack, Lindstrom and Demidov are gone, I'd probably do it. I'd hold firm for those three though.

The chances Catton, Helenius or Eiserman surpass what Zegras has already done (2 x 60+ pts seasons) are there, but slim at best.

I wouldn't trade our pick. Its top 10 for sure. Never for Zegras anyway. Zegras 5 years older, 6 million a year more expensive and most top posters on his board don't want him. Imagine there are reasons. They generally know what they are doing.

 

[waitin425]

I wouldn't trade our pick. Its top 10 for sure. Never for Zegras anyway. Zegras 5 years older, 6 million a year more expensive and most top posters on his board don't want him. Imagine there are reasons. They generally know what they are doing.

Fair points. I just never say never. Those would be my parameters for trading that pick for him. Pure offensive talent. Bad attitude, etc......I don't know, that's speculative as far as I am concerned. But certainly a factor to consider. I just see those points my friend, and imagine him with Dach and Caufield on that second line, with Slaf, Suzuki and Newhook at the top next year.

 

[HuGort]

I still would rather target a guy like Holtz. He has a blistering shot and we have guys that deliver slick passes. Oates meet Hull, Hull... Oates. And no, I'm saying we have an Oates or that Holtz is a Brett Hull.

The first line stays as is, Dach gets Holtz and Newhook or Roy for next year. (Probably Newhook as Roy and Holtz are both RW)

I would target LA for a trade. Blake made some questionable deals and not helped out by his side kick Bergevin.

Durzi trade? Like why? He's solid defenseman for lousy 2nd in weak draft?

Peterson contract? At 5 million a year for 3 years? He's AHL fodder.

Dubois of course, turned out real bad. Don't want to talk about that anymore.

Faber trade? He's solid defenseman and gave up a mid first for Fiala? Fiala solid player, 25 goals-60 points but 8 million a year for 7 years? Blake paid through nose for him.

Kings could be ripe for the pickings

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Hughes says about trading Savard, it's a fluid situation.

So, I think the habs would listen and if they get a deal they can't refuse, they move him, but they're not going to trade him just because.

From the Got Your Back podcast.

 

[salbutera]

HuGo won't trade the Habs 1st if it's a top 10 pick.

If all of Eiserman, Demidov & Lindstrom are off the board, the pick is getting dealt for offensive help IMO - HuGo won’t use it for another D

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Zegras.

I don’t understand the obsession.

We aren’t trading our lottery pick for Zegras. That’s not the way Hughes does things.

We may flip some of the other draft picks/prospects for a young NHL forward, but I doubt Trevor Zegras is that guy unless the price is significantly lower than some have suggested.

Cayden Lindstrom. Tij Iginla. Ivan Demidov. Berk Catton. With Lindstrom and Iginla being the two guys I would target with the first of our first rounders.

 

[morhilane]

Hughes says about trading Savard, it's a fluid situation.

So, I think the habs would listen and if they get a deal they can't refuse, they move him, but they're not going to trade him just because.

From the Got Your Back podcast.

I have the impression Habs got offers for Savard, but they are not high enough to move him since he's the only effective shutdown RHD on the team and there is nobody to replace him currently.

 

[Guy Larose]

I wouldn't trade our pick. Its top 10 for sure. Never for Zegras anyway. Zegras 5 years older, 6 million a year more expensive and most top posters on his board don't want him. Imagine there are reasons. They generally know what they are doing.

Top posters? Like that's a gage of anything lol

 

[Zorro]

I’ll play devils advocates to many of the posters here and say that I would trade our first round pick for Zegras. From what I’ve read, it’s not that he has a bad attitude or anything like that but his “showy” play at such a young age has rubbed some of his peers the wrong way…kind of a little being a little disrespectful. No doubt that he likes to little show-boat, but he backs it up with 2 great seasons of 60+ points on his entry level contract. Does he have more growing and maturing to do? Absolutely! The raw talent is there, he just needs to be put into an environment where he can achieve that. HuGo and MSL have shown that they can do that.

Obviously, if we can get Zegras without implicating our 1st that would be my preference, but I wouldn’t bat an eye if we traded our first for him. He fits our current core age wise and is friends with Caufield, they played together in their USHL days. As such, his transition would be seamless and IMO our more modest ways would rub off on him.

 

[Naslundforever]

I really hope not. Just keep building through the draft.

And signed current young talent when available. Hab prospect pool has them bottom feeders for the forseeable future imo they need to add proven talented players. Top end too, they have like 25 bottom 6 prospects it seems.

Hf is fun to read but good hockey beyond the first line and 1 or 2 D has to happen soon (not in hf poster minds and projections only).

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Team 1200 they interviewed Mike Johnson.

The host brought up Zegras and Mike mentioned a team like Montreal should he interested.


He might work with Dach ?

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Team 1200 they interviewed Mike Johnson.

The host brought up Zegras and Mike mentioned a team like Montreal should he interested.


He might work with Dach ?

i know some dont want him because hes soft but i think Z would flourish in Montreal that kid is made to play in a big market

Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky
2024 1st-Dach-Zegras
Roy-Beck-Mesar

that as potentiel to be a solid top 9

 

[CAUFIELD]

If all of Eiserman, Demidov & Lindstrom are off the board, the pick is getting dealt for offensive help IMO - HuGo won’t use it for another D

That would be a mistake . The tall LD Russian would be another unicorn in our lineup, for exemple. We can always trade or sign for a winger. It’s the easiest position to fill.

 

[vokiel]

Trading for Zegras is going to cost us our first this year as a start. I am preparing myself for this. Most expect us to trade the Winnipeg first, but we may keep it to draft third line support talent instead.

Do you think another team will offer a top 10 pick? I don't even think it was on the table from the Yotes.

 

[Vachon23]

I don't think Zegras is worth a top 8 pick in this year's draft

Zegras is 100 % worth that

Top 10 pick 5 years ago with already 2x 60 pts seasons, the chance that the player you draft at 8th attend that level is not that high (even if I didn’t follow that much the draft of this year)

Do I think Hugo should do this ? That’s an other question but that’s the price he would should cost and +

 

[durojean]

My moves

I would try to get Kaako out of new york. I feel like Savard could be a good fit there. Something like Kaako for Savard ++

Then I would try to go for Zegras : 9th overall + Harris or Barron

Next year it would give us something like :

Zegras Suzuki Kaako : I would actually trust more suzuki to adapt to new teammates
Caufield Dach Slafkovsky -- I would want to put more size possible next to Caufield make him some space
Roy Newhook Anderson : speed and space for Roy
Pezzeta Evans Gallagher : grit and real fourth line.

Matheson Guhle : first pair material
Struble Mailloux : promote Mailloux because it is time
Xhekaj Kovacevich : stable defensive and big to start the year.


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