HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #85 - Offseason Editon

[salbutera]

So, it appears that Elias Pettersson is not discussing an extension right now and wants to wait and see how the season starts/goes (Friedman interview)...

Wouldn't he be an amazing target for us next summer if he decides to ask for a trade? Still RFA, 25 yo, and probably would be the best Habs player in the last 25 years by a wide margin. I guess the situation is somewhat similar to Tkachuk's last year, but Vancouver wouldn't want the same type of return I believe (more inclined on younger pieces).

What would you be willing to give? Does it start with our 2024 1st (let's say 7th overall) and a young D-man like Guhle?

Suzuki + Gallagher + Mailloux + 2025 1st

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

if hes available we should be all in for EP elite talent and would fit our core perfectly

value would for sure be really high

 

[Skip Bayless]

So, it appears that Elias Pettersson is not discussing an extension right now and wants to wait and see how the season starts/goes (Friedman interview)...

Wouldn't he be an amazing target for us next summer if he decides to ask for a trade? Still RFA, 25 yo, and probably would be the best Habs player in the last 25 years by a wide margin. I guess the situation is somewhat similar to Tkachuk's last year, but Vancouver wouldn't want the same type of return I believe (more inclined on younger pieces).

What would you be willing to give? Does it start with our 2024 1st (let's say 7th overall) and a young D-man like Guhle?

I'd give Dach, Armia (cap relief)+ Roy + 1st and extra pick.

I'd actually give Suz straight up, but I don't see Hughes trading him so soon after naming him captain.

 

[Andy]

Over paying for one player rarely works out well.

If the habs have the assets to overpay for a 100 point player, they should do it. It's such a rare opportunity.

And if they could somehow do it without having to trade Suzuki, Dach, Caufield or Guhle...I think I'd faint lol.

 

[Rapala]

D+4 instead of his D+6

I hate when this aspect gets ignored. Never mind the part about being on a weaker team and playing C. Dach has shown himself to be equally as good if not better at a younger age. He's also more entertaining IMO.

 

[Rapala]

If the habs have the assets to overpay for a 100 point player, they should do it. It's such a rare opportunity.

And if they could somehow do it without having to trade Suzuki, Dach, Caufield or Guhle...I think I'd faint lol.

LOL
It would take at least one of our studs and Vancouver could make a case for two. If they Trade this player expect a huge bidding war and there are definitely a number of teams with better assets who can afford an over pay more than we can. If I was trading him I'd want two high level roster ready players for sure.
Something I was hoping for in a Subbn trade way back when.

 

[NekkiChiconey]

Can't reply to everyone lmao but essentially I think it would be counterproductive to trade one of Suzuki/Dach/Caufield, unless Newhook and Slaf somehow become elite this year. Pettersson is great, but he can't do it alone. I don't see HuGo trading one of the three aforementioned forwards, although if they did I'd prefer it be Suzuki. I think it is more likely that they would try and trade from a position of strength (young Ds).

Also, it's important to remember that the only scenario in which EP is traded would be if he asks out / doesn't want to sign. There's no way we can pry him out of Vancouver if he wants to stay there. So, we'd essentially be competing against other teams. I do believe this would be a good base:

1st 2024 (5-10 OVR)
Guhle

And then potentially a forward like Newhook or Anderson, pick or prospect?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Imagine we pull off a trade for EP40 and manage to draft at minimum Catton/Brandsegg-Nygard.

Nobody would be concerned about our offense after that.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I'd give Dach, Armia (cap relief)+ Roy + 1st and extra pick.

I'd actually give Suz straight up, but I don't see Hughes trading him so soon after naming him captain.

Plus it would be better to go Pettersson- Suzuki than Pettersson +.

If the Habs suck and they almost certainly will, I'd trade the Habs 1st (+) easily for Pettersson. Even if the Habs got 1st overall I'd trade it for Pettersson easily, but that's me.

With the way the Habs management seems to be targeting a big trade should be in the books this offseason if something presents itself.


And no, before you someone tries it you can't acquire Pettersson AND dump Gallagher, he's just that worthless.

 

[NekkiChiconey]

Imagine we pull off a trade for EP40 and manage to draft at minimum Catton/Brandsegg-Nygard.

Nobody would be concerned about our offense after that.

Not happening. I don't see how we trade for him without giving up our top-10 pick. HuGo would have to include Suzuki, which they won't. I like this year's crop of prospects, but I'm more than inclined to trade our first+ for EP.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Not happening. I don't see how we trade for him without giving up our top-10 pick. HuGo would have to include Suzuki, which they won't. I like this year's crop of prospects, but I'm more than inclined to trade our first+ for EP.

I don't recall Vegas trading something at that level for Eichel.

Aren't we mostly surprised by the return on big names?

 

[CHfan1]

I don't recall Vegas trading something at that level for Eichel.

Aren't we mostly surprised by the return on big names?

Eichel needed surgery though and a type of surgery Buffalo wasn’t going to accept. I’m guessing that didn’t help Eichel’s trade value.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

I wouldn’t deal Guhle at all, he’s the cornerstone of the defense going forward. Our only legitimate potential to be a true number one defenseman (at this moment anyway). He was our best defenseman last year before he was injured. He’s as close to untouchable as it gets IMO.

I don’t see how the Canucks and Habs would make a deal around Petterssen, unless the package was heavy on picks/prospects from the Habs. The young guys the Canucks would target are the guys like Dach, Suzuki, Caufield, Guhle, etc who are our core.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

I wouldn’t deal Guhle at all, he’s the cornerstone of the defense going forward. Our only legitimate potential to be a true number one defenseman (at this moment anyway). He was our best defenseman last year before he was injured. He’s as close to untouchable as it gets IMO.

I don’t see how the Canucks and Habs would make a deal around Petterssen, unless the package was heavy on picks/prospects from the Habs. The young guys the Canucks would target are the guys like Dach, Suzuki, Caufield, Guhle, etc who are our core.

i like Dach didnt wanna give him up for Dubois but i easily trade him + for EP

 

[NekkiChiconey]

I don't recall Vegas trading something at that level for Eichel.

Aren't we mostly surprised by the return on big names?

Totally different situation imo, although you're right that we're often overrating the return on star players. To be fair, hindsight also plays a big part: last year's Tkachuk trade was initially seen as a massive W for Calgary.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Totally different situation imo, although you're right that we're often overrating the return on star players. To be fair, hindsight also plays a big part: last year's Tkachuk trade was initially seen as a massive W for Calgary.

Will be fun to monitor.

EP40, William Nylander and Leon Draisatl are the situations I'm watching where we might have an opportunity to pounce with our boat load of assets to acquire a high end offensive talent.

 

[Gustave]

Suzuki + Gallagher + Mailloux + 2025 1st

Habs trading their captain, name a better duo

I don’t hate the trade idea, but it’s a hard one to see go through.

 

[Ezpz]

i like Dach didnt wanna give him up for Dubois but i easily trade him + for EP

I think Vancouver would be targeting more futures. EP is basically the only thing keeping them out of a top 5 pick. Their D is certainly bottom five in the league. Demko hasn't developed the way they expected him to. They could have a pretty big fire sale next summer as the cap is going up. They have a lot of "ok" pieces that are affordable.

 

[DAChampion]

NM.

 

[DAChampion]

For Peterson, if he's healthy, the Habs can offer a sterling package.

Dach, Mailloux, 1st, Farrel, Armia.

 

[NekkiChiconey]

Will be fun to monitor.

EP40, William Nylander and Leon Draisatl are the situations I'm watching where we might have an opportunity to pounce with our boat load of assets to acquire a high end offensive talent.

EP40 is definitely the prime target. Let's say we acquire him and sign him to a 8x10, that sets up a concrete contending window with 8 years of EP, 7 years of Caufield and 6 years of Suzuki. With the cap rising, I think we can easily manage that.

Otherwise, in a lower tier, Necas and Kakko could also be targets. If we decide to take more time, Ehlers, Buchnevich, Verhaege or Bennett could make sense as complementary pieces in 2025.

 

[DAChampion]

Suzuki + Gallagher + Mailloux + 2025 1st

Even better if the Canucks take Gallagher.

But I'd keep Suzuki over Dach.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Petterson would be perfect for us, style wise, age wise, etc. If there's any possibility at all, I'd be willing to offer quite a bit to make it happen. Not Suzuki though, the whole point would be to have them both on our center line, switching one for the other would defeat the purpose. Outside of him and Caufield though, everything else would be fair game, including all of our young dmen.

 

[DAChampion]

LOL
It would take at least one of our studs and Vancouver could make a case for two.

There's no precedent for expecting two studs.

 

[Habs10Habs]

If things sour in Vancouver, that is definitely the player the habs should target.

It seems the long-standing issue in VAN is that they do not want a rebuilt and I think they might seek a lateral type of trade instead of one for futures.

Unless we'd be willing to give up Suzuki or Caufield. We'd definitely be out of the running, for that type of trade.