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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #85 - Offseason Editon

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Runner77 said:
Slow news day on DansLesCouillesLisses?

J’ai le sentiment que Kent Hughes joue sa réputation en ce moment puisque chaque jour qui passe sans que la situation ne soit plus clair affecte la façon dont le Canadien est perçu ailleurs dans le monde du hockey.

One of their writers is claiming that Hughes is putting his reputation on the line on account of not taking a clear stand on how Petry and DeSmith will be dealt with.

Yes it’s been 8 days since the players were acquired and no official announcement was made, nor pressers announced for them. However, doesn’t mean things have not been going on behind the scenes. Hughes has shown himself to be very sensitive to player concerns since he’s been named GM.

I doubt Hughes is risking anything by waiting other than angling for the right deal. The players involved have been in the league long enough to know the uncertainties that could result from a trade where they were a means to an end and not the intended targets. It’ll get done, I’m sure there are good reasons why it has not happened yet.
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That is a laughable take from the writer.
 
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Belial said:
MSL was playing Armia over 17 minutes a night at the end of the season, I think there're more chances that he starts the season with Caufield and Suzuki than hitting the waivers...:laugh:
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Then he is the third player we recall after the deadline.
 
BaseballCoach said:
Then he is the third player we recall after the deadline.
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I don't know why they would waive guys when they can just paper demote waiver-exempt players to get under the cap.

The only guy we need to waive is a goalie as I can't see us carrying 3 goalies to start the season.
 
Scriptor said:
If some posters got their wish and all these players disappeared before the start of the season, it would have a negative impact on the development of our prospects.

We'd be in rebuild hell like EDM was for years without any veteran support for the kids.

The only veteran that was mentioned as trade bait as Monahan and, given the widespread firesale in this original post, it's likely just an oversight?
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Or just sign veterans to support the kids with all the cap space created.

Anyway, it would be next to impossible to move all those players before the season or even by next off-season. But hopefully there is progress made in that regard. Every little bit helps clear space in the lineup and cap space.
 
Belial said:
I don't know why they would waive guys when they can just paper demote waiver-exempt players to get under the cap.
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That is also doable but we need to stay at 20 healthy roster players. We can demote Barron and Guhle alongside RHP and Harris and not waive Armia (thereby sacrificing the slight chance someone picks him up) and Wideman (Cap hit $762,500). Wideman would then have to be waived one day before we recall the fourth paper guy (say Barron) and Kovacevic plays game 1 with Wideman in the pressbox waiting to clear the next day.
 
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Harry Kakalovich said:
Or just sign veterans to support the kids with all the cap space created.

Anyway, it would be next to impossible to move all those players before the season or even by next off-season. But hopefully there is progress made in that regard. Every little bit helps clear space in the lineup and cap space.
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Do you mean guys like Perry at 4M$? Or Foligno at 4M$? Or Killorn at 6.250M$???
 
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BaseballCoach said:
That is also doable, adding Guhle and Slaf to RHP and Harris and not waiving Armia (thereby giving up the slight chance someone picks him up) and Wideman (Cap hit $752,500). Wideman would then have to be waived one day before we recall the fourth paper guy.
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Yes, I think they will not expose players on waivers for no reason.
 
Belial said:
I don't think management sees Armia as a burden TBH.

3.4M$ for a guy that can kill penalties is sound defensively and can play up and down your lineup is not the end of the world.

Gallagher's contract in comparison is way worse...
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OK, it's their job to evaluate the players. Personally, while I agree Armia is a real NHL player, I feel he is making more than double what his current contribution is.

That being said, if the Habs value him higher than I do, and higher than 'future considerations' they can decide to not waive him and Wideman, and paper demote Guhle and Barron instead to get cap compliant before opening day. AT WORST, the risk is being unable to dress Barron or Harris or RHP for the first game if Wideman does not clear in time, post-compliance deadline.
 
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Belial said:
I don't know why they would waive guys when they can just paper demote waiver-exempt players to get under the cap.

The only guy we need to waive is a goalie as I can't see us carrying 3 goalies to start the season.
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It's not just the cap, there is also the roster limit, you can't carry 23 skaters either.
 
Waiting for a Petry or DeSmith trade...

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Harry Kakalovich said:
Players I would like the Habs to trade away:

Gallagher
Anderson
Petry
Dvorak
Jake Allen
Armia
Carey Price

Other players I would also consider:
Savard
Matheson
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Please explain the term "I would like player X to be traded away".

Is it equivalent to "I believe this player has negative value for some reason and I would like to trade him for nothing/future considerations"?

Because if you want some return for any of the players you listed, you did not mention it.

Am I correct to assume you mean to get rid of these players for nothing, or even to pay to get rid of them?
 
Belial said:
MSL was playing Armia over 17 minutes a night at the end of the season, I think there're more chances that he starts the season with Caufield and Suzuki than hitting the waivers...:laugh:
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Armia was playing over 17 minutes a game because Caufield, Dach, Dvorak, Anderson, Slafkovsky, Hoffman, Monahan, Belzile were all hurt.. even Drouin was playing 15-17 minutes a game.

I forgot Tierney was even on the team and he was somehow playing 13+ minutes a game :laugh:
 
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sampollock said:
Petry needs to be moved. Kent must be working the phones hard
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Nah, he does not "need" to be moved right now. If not traded, he will help our team with good transition play, while allowing us to be more patient with the Barron-Mailloux-Reinbacher troika.
 
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BaseballCoach said:
Nah, he dos not "need" to be moved right now. If not traded, he will help our team with good transition play, while allowing us to be more patient with the Barron-Mailloux-Reinbacher troika.
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Agree, at first I was like for sure he is getting flipped, 24h max.. But honestly, if we have to trade him at 50% retention for the next 2 years, with all our young players and us being so think on RD, let's just start the season with him and see what happens and where we are come deadline. No rush IMO

The goalies it doesn't make sense to keep 3, the one I'd move out personally if possible would be Allen and get rid and play with that 3.8 million next off season
 
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