Trade Deadline Thread (March 3)

[toddkaz]

Maybe.

I just think loads of fans and media are more willing to part with the 21-23 1sts than Adams likely is, even for Chychrun.

I haven't seen any fans wanting to trade away Kulich, Savoie or Ostlund. Maybe I missed it. I don't mind trading away any of the 3 2nds or the 1st if it means getting a player that is top 4 and will be a sabres player for 8-10 years. If you get someone who will dress in the top 4 for the next 8 years thats under 25 then its the same as drafting.

We don't have one in the prospect pool and it will be years if we draft one this year before he sees the NHL. Its that or free agency and that never has worked out well for Buffalo.

 

[Selanne00008]

I absolutely agree with you, but I also think that KA understands the whole "have to give to get" philosophy. My personal theory is that he's offering ONE of the non-Savoie 21-23 1sts as well as our 2024 1st and then not a whole lot more than that.

I'm cheap and want to offer more quantity, less quality.

Rosen, two 2nd round picks in 2023. Plus a B prospect, or Poretillo?
The two second rounders could be ours and Philly, so it'd be 41st and 48th overall, give or take.

Probly not enough but... oh well.

 

[Jim Bob]

I haven't seen any fans wanting to trade away Kulich, Savoie or Ostlund. Maybe I missed it. I don't mind trading away any of the 3 2nds or the 1st if it means getting a player that is top 4 and will be a sabres player for 8-10 years. If you get someone who will dress in the top 4 for the next 8 years thats under 25 then its the same as drafting.

I've seen plenty of Sabres fans proposing impact trades that included the Sabres '23 1st and Savoie or Ostlund for immediate help.



Here is one media guy gauging fan interest in a Chychrun offer that includes Ostlung and the Sabres '23 1st, for instance.

Kulich is the one guy that most fans want to keep because of how good he's looked in Rochester.

 

[Zman5778]

I'm cheap and want to offer more quantity, less quality.

Rosen, two 2nd round picks in 2023. Plus a B prospect, or Poretillo?
The two second rounders could be ours and Philly, so it'd be 41st and 48th overall, give or take.

Probly not enough but... oh well.

That makes me say "SOLD" without a second of hesitation......so that tells me it's not nearly enough. And keep in mind that I'm one that isn't necessarily for a Chychrun trade to begin with.......and even I think that there's going to be a 1st round pick in any deal for Chychrun, be it 2023 or 2024.

 

[toddkaz]

I've seen plenty of Sabres fans proposing impact trades that included the Sabres '23 1st and Savoie or Ostlund for immediate help.



Here is one media guy gauging fan interest in a Chychrun offer that includes Ostlung and the Sabres '23 1st, for instance.

Kulich is the one guy that most fans want to keep because of how good he's looked in Rochester.

I thought you mean HFboards. I am sure you will find fans on twitter that would trade away Dahlin too

 

[Jim Bob]

I'm cheap and want to offer more quantity, less quality.

Rosen, two 2nd round picks in 2023. Plus a B prospect, or Poretillo?
The two second rounders could be ours and Philly, so it'd be 41st and 48th overall, give or take.

Probly not enough but... oh well.

I wonder if this is the basis of Adams' offer to Armstrong:

'24 BUF 1st
Ryan Johnson (2nd 1st round equivalent)
NHL Roster D [Bryson or Clague]
Portillo
B or C tier prospect [Kisakov as an example]

And Armstrong wants 2 of '23 BUF 1st and Rosen, Savoie, Ostlund, or Kulich instead of the '24 1st and Johnson.

 

[toddkaz]

That makes me say "SOLD" without a second of hesitation......so that tells me it's not nearly enough. And keep in mind that I'm one that isn't necessarily for a Chychrun trade to begin with.......and even I think that there's going to be a 1st round pick in any deal for Chychrun, be it 2023 or 2024.

1st, 2 2nds and Rsoen.

I think thats is far as I would go and it might get it done. I don't mind losing Rosen because I don't think it will hurt the team in the future because we are so stacked with forward prospects.

I am sure Chychrun would re-sign here or Adams wouldn't trade for him.

 

[Jim Bob]

I thought you mean HFboards. I am sure you will find fans on twitter that would trade away Dahlin too

There are people here that have been open to moving guys like Rosen, Ostlund, and to a lesser extent Savoie.

 

[Zman5778]

I've seen plenty of Sabres fans proposing impact trades that included the Sabres '23 1st and Savoie or Ostlund for immediate help.



Here is one media guy gauging fan interest in a Chychrun offer that includes Ostlung and the Sabres '23 1st, for instance.

Kulich is the one guy that most fans want to keep because of how good he's looked in Rochester.

Discussing that deal specifically -- that's the price I'd pay for both Chychrun and Vejmelka (would obviously have to add UPL to give Arizona an NHL-caliber-ish netminder). It's one piece too much (a la Murray deals).

 

[toddkaz]

There are people here that have been open to moving guys like Rosen, Ostlund, and to a lesser extent Savoie.

I think Ostlund is the best out of the three. I am probably in the minority but his development curve has exploded this year.

Anyone GM asking for those three Adams can tell them to go pound sand.

 

[Zman5778]

I wonder if this is the basis of Adams' offer to Armstrong:

'24 BUF 1st
Ryan Johnson (2nd 1st round equivalent)
NHL Roster D [Bryson or Clague]
Portillo
B or C tier prospect [Kisakov as an example]

And Armstrong wants 2 of '23 BUF 1st and Rosen, Savoie, Ostlund, or Kulich instead of the '24 1st and Johnson.

I think you and I are a bit on the same wavelength. Adams is trying to do a bit of a quantity over quality deal and Armstrong up until now is having none of it.

 

[Selanne00008]

1st, 2 2nds and Rsoen.

I think thats is far as I would go and it might get it done. I don't mind losing Rosen because I don't think it will hurt the team in the future because we are so stacked with forward prospects.

I am sure Chychrun would re-sign here or Adams wouldn't trade for him.

I could be convinced to give up a 1st rounder, but it would have to be 2024. And if so, I could still include Rosen, but then I want Philly's second rounder staying put.

Armstrong is probly asking for the world though. We shall see if he blinks first... I don't think Adams will budge much from whatever it is.

 

[MOGlLNY]

I can’t see Adams trading one of the recent 1sts. Rosén, yes.

 

[Zman5778]

1st, 2 2nds and Rsoen.

I think thats is far as I would go and it might get it done. I don't mind losing Rosen because I don't think it will hurt the team in the future because we are so stacked with forward prospects.

I am sure Chychrun would re-sign here or Adams wouldn't trade for him.

Yeah, I think I agree. 2024 1st, 2 of our 2023 2nds and Rosen. We still retain our own 1st this year and still have one of the 2nds.

Maybe I'd add one of our secondary forward prospects too if Armstrong insists (Kisakov, Poltapov, Nadeau, etc)....but that'd be about it.

 

[zenthusiast]

I've seen plenty of Sabres fans proposing impact trades that included the Sabres '23 1st and Savoie or Ostlund for immediate help.



Here is one media guy gauging fan interest in a Chychrun offer that includes Ostlung and the Sabres '23 1st, for instance.

Kulich is the one guy that most fans want to keep because of how good he's looked in Rochester.

To me this is a no-brainer, assuming you have an idea that Chychrun will re-sign next year

 

[Paxon]

Will there be a price drop? My take is that depends solely on how high a team is willing to bid because at this point it seems like Arizona has to trade him, so what their ask is shouldn't be a factor any longer.

 

[MOGlLNY]

I’d rather throw Savoie and 2 2nds, Johnson and Portillo than Ostlund, 23 1st +

 

[zenthusiast]

I’d rather throw Savoie and 2 2nds, Johnson and Portillo than Ostlund, 23 1st +

Same but I do think that Arizona would be right to question whether Johnson and Portillo make sense for them

 

[zenthusiast]

Will there be a price drop? My take is that depends solely on how high a team is willing to bid because at this point it seems like Arizona has to trade him, so what their ask is shouldn't be a factor any longer.

Yeah. His contract isn’t going to expire or anything, but with the NTC kicking in it’ll probably lower his value.

 

[toddkaz]

We have Philly's 2nd round pick and ours. Thats pretty good value. Might even get a 1st round prospect with that 2nd.

It should be worth good value to other teams.

 

[WhereAreTheCookies]

Yeah. His contract isn’t going to expire or anything, but with the NTC kicking in it’ll probably lower his value.

Also it's backloaded the last 2 years, so he's paid more than his cap hit. That's gotta be on the owners mind in pushing Armstrong to trade him.

 

[Paxon]

Yeah. His contract isn’t going to expire or anything, but with the NTC kicking in it’ll probably lower his value.

Also, you can't sit a guy "for trade reasons" (which wasn't even a thing before) for almost three weeks and then not trade him. It'd be very unprofessional. Then there's the fact they're within striking distance of Bedard.

 

[Chainshot]

I’d rather throw Savoie and 2 2nds, Johnson and Portillo than Ostlund, 23 1st +

No. No Savoie, no Ostlund.

 

[Jim Bob]

I’d rather throw Savoie and 2 2nds, Johnson and Portillo than Ostlund, 23 1st +

I would not be willing to give up Savoie.

Yeah, I think I agree. 2024 1st, 2 of our 2023 2nds and Rosen. We still retain our own 1st this year and still have one of the 2nds.

Maybe I'd add one of our secondary forward prospects too if Armstrong insists (Kisakov, Poltapov, Nadeau, etc)....but that'd be about it.

I wouldn't be willing to give up 3 early rounds picks and Rosen in a deal for one guy.

 

[zenthusiast]

Also, you can't sit a guy "for trade reasons" (which wasn't even a thing before) for almost three weeks and then not trade him. It'd be very unprofessional. Then there's the fact they're within striking distance of Bedard.

If there’s anything we know about the coyotes, it’s that they’re a model of professionalism