Rumor: Trade deadline/rumour/proposal thread Vol 12:clowe to nyr

[Paralyzer008]

I think it's time to mention that Pitkanen is out 3 months.

I don't see McBain moving now.

 

[Asher]

I'm surprised we're interested in Torres. IIRC, at the start of the rebuild, he was one of the guys that was moved out of the team because he was deemed a problem child wasn't he? I can't remember if it was under Lowe or Tambo, but regardless, I'm surprised they are interested in him considering they saw him in that way.

IIRC, it had more to do with him being too inconsistent a scorer to play in the top 6. He's exactly the type of bottom 6 player this team could use IMO, and if he could be had for cheap then I'm all for it.

 

[jsho]

Don't know if this was posted earlier:

@CraigCustance
Nothing imminent on Yandle front. Deal would really have to make sense for PHX to move him. Need a legit top six center.

I would give up VandeVelde then....maybe even Lander

 

[s7ark]

Awesome to hear from a media source. I personally think we make good trading partners and wouldn't be disappointed if we could get a deal done around McBain and Whitney.

Matheson still has some ears out there too. He called the Regehr to LA deal days before it happened.

I am against trading Whitney for picks, but if we could get McBain back I do it every day of the week.

I think it's time to mention that Pitkanen is out 3 months.

I don't see McBain moving now.

Matheson seems to disagree.

More from Matheson:

"If Steve Tambellini’s cell-phone wasn’t ringing shortly after Carolina Hurricanes defenceman Joni Pitkanen suffered a serious leg injury on an icing race for the puck Tuesday night — when is the NHL going to wake up and go to no-touch? — then Jim Rutherford isn’t doing his job.

Knowing Rutherford for some 20 years, he is a pro-active NHL general manager. With Pitkanen, the onetime Oiler D-man,badly hurt (ankle, three months), then the Hurricanes are going to need Ryan Whitney.

I know the Oilers seem to be in a let’s-not-shuffle-the-deck mood with their lineup because they are solidly in a playoff race, and Tambellini might want to send a strong message to his players that he isn’t sending players away.

But again,with the vastly underrated minute-muncher Pitkanen done for the season after losing an edge in his race with Troy Brouwer, they need a defenceman and Whitney, whose play has improved, would certainly appear to be the necessary replacement.

A puck-mover for a puck-mover, so maybe Tambellini will at least have to listen.

If there are two second-round draft picks in play–Carolina is looking to move blueliner Jamie McBain, too– doesn’t he have to see what’s on Rutherford’s mind?"​

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/20...bellinis-phone/?cid=dlvr.it-twitter-ej_oilers

 

[McDrai]

I think it's time to mention that Pitkanen is out 3 months.

I don't see McBain moving now.

Maybe do a 2 for 1
Peckham/Potter + Whitney + 2nd for McBain

 

[doulos]

Have it your way if you like I'd rather bring a gun to a gun fight. Watching kevin bieksa run around a couple nights ago showed the need for some dirty.

It shows the need for some better reffing.

 

[belair]

Don't know if this was posted earlier:

@CraigCustance
Nothing imminent on Yandle front. Deal would really have to make sense for PHX to move him. Need a legit top six center.

It's almost embarrassing how obvious it is that they're banking on Couturier.

 

[Oil In My Veins]

Something around Khabby for Scrivens would be a great deal, if we could get it done.



McBain + 2nd 2013 for Whitney + 3rd 2014

Then Jones + Belanger + 2nd 2013 for Ott.

Hall - RNH - Eberle
Paajarvi + Gagner - Yakupov
Hartikainen - Horcoff - Hemsky
Brown - Ott - Smyth/Petrell

Smid - Petry
Schultz - Schultz
Fistric - McBain

Dubnyk
Scrivens

Just that easy

I wonder what they'd want for Scrivens and Gardiner. Maybe Khabby and someone like Schultz?

I'm thinking that Buffalo is going to be asking for PRV for Ott, would be nice if it was that easy though

 

[belair]

Maybe do a 2 for 1
Peckham/Potter + Whitney + 2nd for McBain

Why are we overpaying for their need?

They need Whitney. We need squat.

 

[Paralyzer008]

Matheson could have written his column before Pitkanen's injury, but I should mention that @reporterchris, who had lots of lockout info, said he doesn't believe McBain will move before the deadline.

 

[Spawn]

I mentioned earlier I was against moving Whitney at the deadline. If you could get McBain. McBain would be worth taking a shot on. Would help balance out the bottom pairing and pick up a guy who can develop into a top 4 on an organization that has soured a bit on him.

Matheson still has some ears out there too. He called the Regehr to LA deal days before it happened.

He outright called that one though. This is more speculation on what might be a fit on his part. Would love it if he was right, his speculation pieces usually end up not being very accurate sadly.

 

[s7ark]

I wonder what they'd want for Scrivens and Gardiner. Maybe Khabby and someone like Schultz?

I'm thinking that Buffalo is going to be asking for PRV for Ott, would be nice if it was that easy though

Gardiner is pretty much just fantasy. There have been no reports that the Leafs are interested in moving him, or even listening to offers.

 

[Asher]

McBain and a 2nd for Whitney works for me.

 

[McPuritania]

It shows the need for some better reffing.

You and I both know that'll never happen.

 

[Paralyzer008]

Woah, no WAY Carolina deals a contracted player AND a pick for a UFA rental.

Come on guys.

 

[Spawn]

McBain and a 2nd for Whitney works for me.

Oh **** yeah. I think it would be more likely McBain for Whitney and a 2nd personally though.

 

[millpoo]

Awesome to hear from a media source. I personally think we make good trading partners and wouldn't be disappointed if we could get a deal done around McBain and Whitney.

I'd be happy to get Mcbain. Real happy actually. Some people would grouse about "upsetting the room" or losing a veteran in a playoff race, but I think the longterm asset and and an improving defenceman, while PP help in the short term would make it a good move.

I don't think they'd miss Whitney's "leadership" anyway. Someone would step up.

Then again, the Pitkanen injury could force them to reconsider trading Mcbain altogether.

 

[Sexington]

Matheson could have written his column before Pitkanen's injury, but I should mention that @reporterchris, who had lots of lockout info, said he doesn't believe McBain will move before the deadline.

The first two paragraphs are about the injury. Hopefully he did write this before and can tell us what happens tomorrow right now

 

[belair]

I mentioned earlier I was against moving Whitney at the deadline. If you could get McBain. McBain would be worth taking a shot on. Would help balance out the bottom pairing and pick up a guy who can develop into a top 4 on an organization that has soured a bit on him.

Agreed.

One's a 30yr old guy on an expriring $4M contract, who has recurring ankle issues.

The other's 25yo guy in the mold of Tom Gilbert who's making $1.8M next year and is a RFA.

 

[AK Dandyman]

More from Matheson:

"If Steve Tambellini’s cell-phone wasn’t ringing shortly after Carolina Hurricanes defenceman Joni Pitkanen suffered a serious leg injury on an icing race for the puck Tuesday night — when is the NHL going to wake up and go to no-touch? — then Jim Rutherford isn’t doing his job.

Knowing Rutherford for some 20 years, he is a pro-active NHL general manager. With Pitkanen, the onetime Oiler D-man,badly hurt (ankle, three months), then the Hurricanes are going to need Ryan Whitney.

I know the Oilers seem to be in a let’s-not-shuffle-the-deck mood with their lineup because they are solidly in a playoff race, and Tambellini might want to send a strong message to his players that he isn’t sending players away.

But again,with the vastly underrated minute-muncher Pitkanen done for the season after losing an edge in his race with Troy Brouwer, they need a defenceman and Whitney, whose play has improved, would certainly appear to be the necessary replacement.

A puck-mover for a puck-mover, so maybe Tambellini will at least have to listen.

If there are two second-round draft picks in play–Carolina is looking to move blueliner Jamie McBain, too– doesn’t he have to see what’s on Rutherford’s mind?"​

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/20...bellinis-phone/?cid=dlvr.it-twitter-ej_oilers

Matheson doesn't make sense there somehow.

Canes are 5 pts out of a playoff spot, Whitney will be UFA this summer and his foot problem has been well documented. Why would the Canes give up anything decent for a rental who has slowed considerably due to injury?

And, we are 1 pt out of playoff spot. As much as I like to trade Whitney, I don't see the Oilers wanting to trade Whitney for a 3rd round pick.

Canes just lost Pitkanen so why would they want to trade McBain?

 

[Spawn]

Woah, no WAY Carolina deals a contracted player AND a pick for a UFA rental.

Come on guys.

I would be a little surprised if they were looking at picking up a rental. 4 points out of the division lead and 5 points out of 8th (funny how that works). I almost wouldn't be surprised to see the Canes look at moving a piece or two for picks now that Pitkanen is out for the season.

 

[Asher]

Woah, no WAY Carolina deals a contracted player AND a pick for a UFA rental.

Come on guys.

Then you tell Rutherford good luck finding another defenseman and hang up. My offer is predicated on the belief that Tambo doesn't want to trade Whitney. Hey, if they really want something else we'll give them Belanger.

 

[Mav3rick07]

Should we expect any NHL deals late-night tonight, or are most of the deals going to take place tomorrow morning?

 

[TheNumber4]

Hemsky (5M Contract no one is willing to touch)
Whitney (UFA)

for

McBain (1.8M for next season and RFA)
2nd Rd Pick

 

[Oil In My Veins]

Gardiner is pretty much just fantasy. There have been no reports that the Leafs are interested in moving him, or even listening to offers.

Nor was I trying to say there was, just spit-balling.