Blue Jays Discussion: Trade deadline: Aug 31 (no, not that one. The other one. The waiver one)

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Its too bad Danny Valencia is such a jerk. Could've gotten the whole band back together.

 

[BayStreetBully]

Its too bad Danny Valencia is such a jerk. Could've gotten the whole band back together.

Nah, Valencia wasn't part of the summer of love.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Travis hitting 9th is a bit of an odd decision

 

[Longshot]

I was at the stadium all weekend for the Twins series. Did a bunch of heads spontaneously explode in this forum with Smoak and Barney hit homeruns in the same game?

 

[canucksfan]

the roster strategy last year gave us the flexibility to take advantage of that kind of fluke year.

that could have been montero this year, but we'll never know.

What roster strategy would that be?

 

[zeke]

What roster strategy would that be?

keep the bottom roster spots open qnd flexible, not locked into any multi year contracts.

Last year we entered the season with a battle royale between cheap no commitment guys for all the bottom roster spots:

CF + BOF Pompey, Pillar, Carrera, Dickerson
2B + BIF Izturis, Goins, Kawsaki, Travis, Santiago
1B + BUT Valencia, Smoak, Colabello, Barton, Tolleson

and we let them sort it out via performance.

 

[canucksfan]

keep the bottom roster spots open qnd flexible, not locked into any multi year contracts.

Last year we entered the season with a battle royale between cheap no commitment guys for all the bottom roster spots:

CF + BOF Pompey, Pillar, Carrera, Dickerson
2B + BIF Izturis, Goins, Kawsaki, Travis, Santiago
1B + BUT Valencia, Smoak, Colabello, Barton, Tolleson

and we let them sort it out via performance.

It's a lot different this year because the roster was more set. Also, the Jays did in guys for Spring Training but none of them stood out. Jays got lucky with Colabello last year. That rarely happens.

 

[Discoverer]

keep the bottom roster spots open qnd flexible, not locked into any multi year contracts.

Last year we entered the season with a battle royale between cheap no commitment guys for all the bottom roster spots:

CF + BOF Pompey, Pillar, Carrera, Dickerson
2B + BIF Izturis, Goins, Kawsaki, Travis, Santiago
1B + BUT Valencia, Smoak, Colabello, Barton, Tolleson

and we let them sort it out via performance.

Pillar and Travis cementing themselves in those positions wasn't a bad thing.

Coming into the season, which "bottom of the roster" players were signed for multiple years?

There was a 1B/DH battle (Smoak, Colabello, Dominguez, Montero), a utility infield battle (Barney, Goins) and a fourth OF battle (Pompey, Lake, Carrera, Ceciliani). Not a single player among them was under contract for more than one year.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Lansing just sent 15 players to the plate in the 3rd and scored 10 runs. Looks like Zeuch won't have to worry about taking a loss in his first Lansing start

 

[zeke]

travis' injury was fortunate in a way because it gave barney an opportunity, but otherwise the roster was pretty gridlocked at the bottom.

Smoak, Cola, Goins, Thole were pretty much locked in. Only real competition was for 4th OF.

 

[Canada4Gold]

HR Tellez, 20th of the season

 

[Canada4Gold]

Lansing just sent 15 players to the plate in the 3rd and scored 10 runs. Looks like Zeuch won't have to worry about taking a loss in his first Lansing start

Zeuch 7 K's through 3 innings. Is that good?

 

[zeke]

Looking like a fine draft from the new FO. Everyone impressing so far.

 

[Woodman19]

Looking like a fine draft from the new FO. Everyone impressing so far.

Was that a compliment to the Shapiro-Atkins crew or are we going to credit AA's scouting crew for it?

 

[Canada4Gold]

Was that a compliment to the Shapiro-Atkins crew or are we going to credit AA's scouting crew for it?

It's called Shatkins

 

[zeke]

Was that a compliment to the Shapiro-Atkins crew or are we going to credit AA's scouting crew for it?

one of many compliments i've given them.

 

[JS19]

Do people still want Tulo traded? Did you not see his elite defensive playmaking skills?

 

[Paladin2799]

Do people still want Tulo traded? Did you not see his elite defensive playmaking skills?

I don't want to see him run out of town, but out of all of our starters I would listen the most intently if someone came calling.

His 20m a year is a pretty big anchor for the team.

I mean, im in the minority that I would be actively shopping JB, but i mean besides that.

 

[Eyedea]

Jays vs teams below .500: 29-23, +21 run differential.
Jays vs teams at .500 or above: 46-33, +85 run differential.

 

[zeke]

Division Record and Run Diff

* ALE: 351-312 (.529) +200 (+0.302)
* NLC: 330-320 (.508) +107 (+0.165)
* ALW: 329-327 (.502) -33 (-0.050)
* ALC: 325-328 (.498) -63 (-0.097)
* NLW: 317-336 (.486) -57 (-0.087)
* NLE: 318-337 (.486) -154 (-0.235)

this ****ing division.

 

[Doug Gilmour]

I don't want to see him run out of town, but out of all of our starters I would listen the most intently if someone came calling.

His 20m a year is a pretty big anchor for the team.

I mean, im in the minority that I would be actively shopping JB, but i mean besides that.

TSN had an article up that threw out the idea of Bautista being used primarily as DH with the rash of injuries he has been experiencing in the OF. I'm with you in the minority that I would be shopping him around cause the money you're going tie up in him, EE, Donaldson, and Tulowitzki is Bronx territory. Plus he would return a really good haul of players and prospects.

 

[Puckstuff]

Its too bad Danny Valencia is such a jerk. Could've gotten the whole band back together.

What happened with Valencia? I'm traveling south east Asia so just remotely checking in on the team when I can

 

[Puckstuff]

Read the article on TSN quickly, Btw in my opinion clean up is a good spot for Bautista. His .861 OPS with RISP is still good. Give him some RBI oppurtunies batting 4th (still has some pop) would easily hit 30 + homers if healthy all year, and he can still get on base very well for Tulo, Martin behind him. Makes the most sense in my opinion. I'd have martin 5th, Tulo 6th, and you can rearrange Upton, Saunders, Pillar 7-8-9 depending on who's hot. Either way, lineup is legit. Dinner makes the bench a little deeper. A lefty 1B would be nice, but I won't lose any sleep over it if we don't make any other moves.

 

[Paladin2799]

Read the article on TSN quickly, Btw in my opinion clean up is a good spot for Bautista. His .861 OPS with RISP is still good. Give him some RBI oppurtunies batting 4th (still has some pop) would easily hit 30 + homers if healthy all year, and he can still get on base very well for Tulo, Martin behind him. Makes the most sense in my opinion. I'd have martin 5th, Tulo 6th, and you can rearrange Upton, Saunders, Pillar 7-8-9 depending on who's hot. Either way, lineup is legit. Dinner makes the bench a little deeper. A lefty 1B would be nice, but I won't lose any sleep over it if we don't make any other moves.

Am I okay with this for the rest of the year? Absolutely.

Do I want to resign Bautista in the offseason? nah.

I'd rather let Saunders/JB walk, get the compensation from JB, and resign EE.

I'd also have a serious sit down with the reds over votto.

 

[Discoverer]

TSN had an article up that threw out the idea of Bautista being used primarily as DH with the rash of injuries he has been experiencing in the OF. I'm with you in the minority that I would be shopping him around cause the money you're going tie up in him, EE, Donaldson, and Tulowitzki is Bronx territory. Plus he would return a really good haul of players and prospects.

Why would you intentionally downgrade a team that looks to be among the World Series favourites with a month left in the season?