Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 - Post Deadline

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Who cares? The point is MT @ $9m is not an overpay.
Actually, the point was that you seemed to imply that handing out a contract that gives a player a path to free agency in 5 years was horrible and worse than handing out a contract that gives a player a path to free agency in 4 years...
 
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Who cares? The point is MT @ $9m is not an overpay.
Who cares? You do. You literally posted about walking a player to UFA being a negative while giving an example of a player who holds the cards of walking themselves to UFA even earlier.

It's almost as if you post things with such conviction when you have just about no idea of what you're talking about.

Actually, the point was that you seemed to imply that handing out a contract that gives a player a path to free agency in 5 years was horrible and worse than handing out a contract that gives a player a path to free agency in 4 years...
Bingo.
 
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And historically team who dont have to trade their #1 elite goalie dont trade him...

Theres no reason for Winnipeg to trade, helly, they are not in a rebuild unstead he asking a trade or get sometbing they cant reject...


Carolina and Winnipeg reject
the canes would be stupid to reject that. Pesce aint what he use to be. And even if he was, he was never worth william.
 
Who cares? You do. You literally posted about walking a player to UFA being a negative while giving an example of a player who holds the cards of walking themselves to UFA even earlier.

It's almost as if you post things with such conviction when you have just about no idea of what you're talking about.


Bingo.

Calgary are not walking Tkachuk to free agency after 3 years. Is that fact or fiction ??
 
the canes would be stupid to reject that. Pesce aint what he use to be. And even if he was, he was never worth william.

I dont think so, carolina looking to win in playoff and the player who give up the best chance to win in playoff, its Pesce...

Pesce is the canes Ryan Mcdonaugh...a darkhorse than no body talking about but making a tremendous job by shuting down his opponent
 
Calgary are not walking Tkachuk to free agency after 3 years. Is that fact or fiction ??
Calgary has given him the option to walk himself to UFA after 4 years. You're trying to move the goalposts when you made an obvious error while trying to get a pot shot in.

Just own it and move along.

You're actually pretty intelligent and it's obvious you understand the game but you really dilute your posts with the constant need to get a few shots in.
 
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I dont think so, carolina looking to win in playoff and the player who give up the best chance to win in playoff, its Pesce...

Pesce is the canes Ryan Mcdonaugh...a darkhorse than no body talking about but making a tremendous job by shuting down his opponent
I dont agree at all. Pesce is solid but he's not Nearly as Important as a ppg player.
 
Pesce isn't a Number 1, hes a number 2 who is older then Nylander. Maybe the 2023 1st is to much but Pesce + Drury is fair value for Nylander.
Your dreaming if you think Carolina does this. Under no circumstances are they trading him or adding. . They still say no to trading pescr
 
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Calgary has given him the option to walk himself to UFA after 4 years. You're trying to move the goalposts when you made an obvious error while trying to get a pot shot in.

Just own it and move along.

You're actually pretty intelligent and it's obvious you understand the game but you really dilute your posts with the constant need to get a few shots in.

If you are saying that they qualify him for year 4 @ 9 and then he becomes a UFA, then you are 100% correct. Appreciate the respectful response.
 
If you are saying that they qualify him for year 4 @ 9 and then he becomes a UFA, then you are 100% correct. Appreciate the respectful response.
I'm saying at minimum they have to start at 9+ (I think it's 10% above the last year of his salary which is 9 mill). If they try to go long term and he doesn't agree on the $, he can just take the QO and walk after year 4 (which would be less than 5 years).

It was just a bad example from what I can see. Tkachuk is no doubt a dynamite player that anyone would love to have.
 
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They can say no all day long, doesn't mean Pesce has the value you think he does.
For some reason people seem to think Pesce and Slavin hold the same value. Slavin is incredible. Pesce is good but he gets a lot of hype because he plays in a market that nobody pays attention to.

If Pesce were traded to a bigger market team, he would lose a lot of that lustre pretty quickly. Slavin on the other hand is a stud.
 
They can say no all day long, doesn't mean Pesce has the value you think he does.
Go take that to Carolina team fans board. Also Carolina doesn't operate that way. They don't get cheated, or add expensive player. They wouldn't want nylander who needs to get paid and get rid of pesce who they value
 
Go take that to Carolina team fans board. Also Carolina doesn't operate that way. They don't get cheated, or add expensive player. They wouldn't want nylander who needs to get paid and get rid of pesce who they value
I don't think anyone should really care what a team board thinks of the value of their players. We are just as guilty of over valuing players as other teams boards are.

You can go back 3-4 years on any teams board and see the list of 'untouchables' that are now on waivers.
 
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Your giving me opinion but presenting it as fact. You have zero evidence to back up your silly claims.
And what am I not presenting as a fact? That Carolina is cheap? Dude they let players go who even if they are good, they can't resign or don't want to. Or that pesce is value by their fans? I read every team's board. Some of you are just blind to how other boards value their or that some teams are cheap like Carolina
 
I mean all trades posted here have a very low probability of happening.

Of course, if people find the discussion of low probability trades boring, they can always just ignore the threads.
I didn't take there post to mean any specific trade proposal wasn't happening, just that Nylander wouldn't be traded period.
I wouldn't say it's probable he is being traded but I also wouldn't say the chance is 'close to zero'.
 
If Vegas is re-signing Smith and need cap relief I’m wonder about the cost of Pacioretty .. they were rumoured to have shopped in at the deadline IIRC
 
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