Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 - Post Deadline

[Torontonian]

Necas has mostly been a RW, which is why I said it doesn't make sense unless we move Nylander.

We are flush with good winger prospects; both LW and RW.

Toronto currently has a hole on the 2nd line leftwing and has had one for three years now. If Necas can play left or Nylander can play left and Necas can go right wing, then trading Sandin for him is something I would look into.

If Toronto is going to trade Sandin, it must be for a player we have control of that can play in the top 6. They cannot trade Sandin for someone who has one or two years only.

Two low key quality additions that Colorado has been working with are Burakovsky and Nichushkin… big bodied power forward types that still needed some development.

An example that the Leafs missed out on is Buchnevich .. they need to find these types of players imo

Maybe keeping Mikheyev is the right call?

Not for 4-5m, Micky is a fast speedy winger, but far from a big bodied power forward.

 

[BertCorbeau]

probably why I’m interested in Namestnikov

A bit older so he might not have that offensive upside. But a big body that’s physical and would fit nicely on the third line

 

[WTFMAN99]

probably why I’m interested in Namestnikov

A bit older so he might not have that offensive upside. But a big body that’s physical and would fit nicely on the third line

I wouldn't be mad but I do like the guys who are willing to just let it rip, I still feel some nights we institute a rule where we need to complete 4 passes before we take a shot. Namestnikov probably leans pass a bit more before shooting.

A guy I like for the bottom 6 is Motte, good energy player if $$/term can be kept in check.

 

[BertCorbeau]

I wouldn't be mad but I do like the guys who are willing to just let it rip, I still feel some nights we institute a rule where we need to complete 4 passes before we take a shot. Namestnikov probably leans pass a bit more before shooting.

A guy I like for the bottom 6 is Motte, good energy player if $$/term can be kept in check.

Motte would also be a good add.

If you sign both for your third/fourth line you could run Robertson on the second line. Namestnikov could spot duty on the second line if a shuffle is needed.

 

[supermann_98]

I would have absolutely no problem in trading Sandin for Necas but I highly doubt Carolina would even accept that

Maybe they would be mercifully grateful for Dubie gifting them Seth Jarvis so they'd accept this as an I-owe-you favour repaid

 

[Gabriel426]

I wouldn't be mad but I do like the guys who are willing to just let it rip, I still feel some nights we institute a rule where we need to complete 4 passes before we take a shot. Namestnikov probably leans pass a bit more before shooting.

A guy I like for the bottom 6 is Motte, good energy player if $$/term can be kept in check.

In terms of PP, I really think they want AM to take the first shot and the 2nd and the 3rd......
I think on 5v5, we just got one too many players who rather pass than shoot. Kerfoot being one of them. Kampf the other, and Engvall too. Not to mention MM. When Willie and JT are struggling, they tend to be pass first players too.

 

[Amadeus]

probably why I’m interested in Namestnikov

A bit older so he might not have that offensive upside. But a big body that’s physical and would fit nicely on the third line

His dad scouted for the Leafs.

 

[Menzinger]

CJ said today no offers have been made to Mikheyev and Campbell. Mikhayev is looking for something in the 4 million range.

Honestly with the way this is going way, it seems Leafs will look to reshape the entire bottom 6 except for Kampf and maybe Kase.

I'm expecting likely 3-4 new bodies in there. Depending on what they do with Engvall. Clifford/Simmonds starts the season as the 13th/14th man. Think they'll go younger and try to repeat what they did with Kampf

 

[Legion34]

Toronto currently has a hole on the 2nd line leftwing and has had one for three years now. If Necas can play left or Nylander can play left and Necas can go right wing, then trading Sandin for him is something I would look into.

If Toronto is going to trade Sandin, it must be for a player we have control of that can play in the top 6. They cannot trade Sandin for someone who has one or two years only.


Not for 4-5m, Micky is a fast speedy winger, but far from a big bodied power forward.

Tavares. Necas. Nylander

 

[WTFMAN99]

I'm expecting likely 3-4 new bodies in there. Depending on what they do with Engvall. Clifford/Simmonds starts the season as the 13th/14th man. Think they'll go younger and try to repeat what they did with Kampf

Bunting-Matthews-Marner
X-JT-X
Engvall-Kampf-X
X-X-X

Rielly-Brodie
Sandin/Muzzin-X
Giordano-Liljegren
X

X
X

That's kinda the template I see...Kerfoot, Holl, 1 of Muzzin/Sandin gone, Mrazek and 88...although people will say Nylander is never going.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Two low key quality additions that Colorado has been working with are Burakovsky and Nichushkin… big bodied power forward types that still needed some development.

An example that the Leafs missed out on is Buchnevich .. they need to find these types of players imo

Maybe keeping Mikheyev is the right call?

Burakovsky is big, but I am not sure I would call him a power forward. He is more of a sniper, and it comes as no surprise that he did better in a system that compliments his skill.

Nischushkin is more of a power forward, and evidence that you should be giving young guys with skill and potential a chance. He was mostly used as a bottom 6 guy before this year and that is pretty much what he brought to the table.

Personally, that is why I am all for giving a good prospect who is a strong stylistic fit for that spot (like Anderson or Knies) rather than throwing money at a veteran.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Toronto currently has a hole on the 2nd line leftwing and has had one for three years now. If Necas can play left or Nylander can play left and Necas can go right wing, then trading Sandin for him is something I would look into.

If Toronto is going to trade Sandin, it must be for a player we have control of that can play in the top 6. They cannot trade Sandin for someone who has one or two years only.

Is it going to be a hole for long though? We have a bunch of prospects who look like better fits than Necas for that line. While Necas has size and skill, he is not exactly the kind of guy I see doing any better on that line. We have had guys who have filled that hole effectively, but were not perfect fits stylistically. I see the same issue with Necas.

 

[Menzinger]

Bunting-Matthews-Marner
X-JT-X
Engvall-Kampf-X
X-X-X

Rielly-Brodie
Sandin/Muzzin-X
Giordano-Liljegren
X

X
X

That's kinda the template I see...Kerfoot, Holl, 1 of Muzzin/Sandin gone, Mrazek and 88...although people will say Nylander is never going.

I think Kerfoot and Nylander will be in the lineup game 1. Mrazek likely a near certainty to be gone though.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Burakovsky is big, but I am not sure I would call him a power forward. He is more of a sniper, and it comes as no surprise that he did better in a system that compliments his skill.

Nischushkin is more of a power forward, and evidence that you should be giving young guys with skill and potential a chance. He was mostly used as a bottom 6 guy before this year and that is pretty much what he brought to the table.

Personally, that is why I am all for giving a good prospect who is a strong stylistic fit for that spot (like Anderson or Knies) rather than throwing money at a veteran.

I'm open to giving a prospect a chance too but I think veteran depth is important, so I wouldn't pay a lot.

 

[Americanadian]

I keep coming back to something like this:

Sandin for Hayton
Nylander+Mrazek for Tomasino+17 OA
Malgin for Bastian
Holl to DAL
Kerfoot to NYI

Sign Husso/Marchment/Wedgewood

All contracts projections and standings projections are from EvolvingHockey. There is 7.85M left over (probably less if you factor in Marchment getting more). Overall a solid roster and younger. Tavares gets 2 strong defensive wingers with offensive upside. Line 3 is purely for secondary offense. Line 4 is the checking line.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I'm open to giving a prospect a chance too but I think veteran depth is important, so I wouldn't pay a lot.

One prospect for the bottom 6, one for the 2nd line, the rest are veterans. Engvall, Kampf, Kase, and 2 relatively cheap UFA's.

I don't think they should be older guys like Spezza or even Simmonds though. Not what this lineup needs anymore; not unless they can play. Spezza was able to do that to some extent, but even he was pretty much limited to PP and faceoff value by the end.

 

[OVO16]

I have zero interest in bringing Kase back. Soft and Injury Prone

Engvall and Kampf are the only bottom 6 forwards I dont mind coming back. Everyone else needs to be new.

Mixture of Veterans and Young guys. No more soft guys please

 

[leafsfan5]

I have zero interest in bringing Kase back. Soft and Injury Prone

Engvall and Kampf are the only bottom 6 forwards I dont mind coming back. Everyone else needs to be new.

Mixture of Veterans and Young guys. No more soft guys please

The whole reason Kase is injury prone is because he's the opposite of soft and is too reckless. If healthy he's exactly what you want

 

[Stephen]

I have zero interest in bringing Kase back. Soft and Injury Prone

Engvall and Kampf are the only bottom 6 forwards I dont mind coming back. Everyone else needs to be new.

Mixture of Veterans and Young guys. No more soft guys please

Kase is the furthest thing from soft. His reckless style is what makes him injury prone. But there might be a reason there to not invest in him.

 

[SprDaVE]

You'd be really crazy not to want Kase back on a 1 year deal around what he made. He was pretty good and far from soft.

It would be very hard to replicate finding someone as good as him.

 

[McSnypsky]

Kase is the furthest thing from soft. His reckless style is what makes him injury prone. But there might be a reason there to not invest in him.

That's exactly how Grabo played and that didn't end well either.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Guess you missed the travel restrictions that were lifted yesterday. You know longer need to be vaccinated to enter or leave Canada

Really? If that's true bring on Tyler Bertuzzi

You'd be really crazy not to want Kase back on a 1 year deal around what he made. He was pretty good and far from soft.

It would be very hard to replicate finding someone as good as him.

The problem is his brain is mush at this point

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Mirtle just reported that multiple sources indicated that he would be willing to sign here.

My bet is Pitt. But of the playoff teams that need goalies that aren’t Pitt. Toronto seems to be his best bet.

Just for clarity sake are you talking about Matt Murray being willing to sign here if bought out? Or Fleury?

If It's Fleury I'm all for it.

Two low key quality additions that Colorado has been working with are Burakovsky and Nichushkin… big bodied power forward types that still needed some development.

An example that the Leafs missed out on is Buchnevich .. they need to find these types of players imo

Maybe keeping Mikheyev is the right call?

Not at 4-5 million no it f***ing isn't

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Wedgewood seems like a slam dunk 1B. He played 37 games this year and put up a .910 SV% including a .911 SV% in 26 games with Arizona. He's also a local kid (he'll be 30 next season) which may give the Leafs a leg up on getting him signed.

As the # 1? Not a chance, not 1 year before Matthews can sign an extension

Maybe as the #3

Just for clarity sake are you talking about Matt Murray being willing to sign here if bought out? Or Fleury?

If It's Fleury I'm all for it.



Not at 4-5 million no it f***ing is not

 

[hullsy47]

I have zero interest in bringing Kase back. Soft and Injury Prone

Engvall and Kampf are the only bottom 6 forwards I dont mind coming back. Everyone else needs to be new.

Mixture of Veterans and Young guys. No more soft guys please

Kase back but under 1 million .