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GDT: Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 PART VIII

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Would you trade Mrazek for Koskinen (pending UFA, retained to equal salary) 1 for 1?

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uncleben said:
-Chychrun may be available, but no deal has been made by any team, so every other GM is just as behind at this point as Dubas is
-Where'd you hear Dubas won't budge on Mrazek? He moved on from Ritchie when it didn't click, and let guys like Lehtonen, Barabanov, Semyonov go. No reason to think he won't take a serious offer on Mrazek if it makes sense.
-And doing cheap little depth moves doesn't mean we still can't do bigger moves. In fact, if Brooks and Dzingel weren't claimed, and adding an extra D and G to the depth charts gives a little more wiggle room to make a bigger move

We got a few more weeks before the trade deadline, and a couple of long months to see how the playoffs shakeout. Lots can happen
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Experts say dubas won’t look at this u til the summer
By then he’s prob worthless and no one will want him
 
I love Muzzin, and I love what he's done for the team but if there's a way we can move on from him we do it without much of a thought. I have zero faith in him lasting 4 rounds which is exactly what we need our defense to do.. especially with how lackluster it is.
 
Cor said:
Even including tonight we’ve won 8 of our last 12.

please stop with the hyperbole
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Oh man
It’s views like this that has us not win a series in over a decade?
We’re still talking about the same issues on this team as the time we had phaneuf lol

put this in ur head
We’re just as close of winning the cup as Edmonton oilers
 
leafsfan2point0 said:
After this game it’s definitely Chychrun time assuming Muzzin goes on LTIR
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If Muzzin goes on LTIR, I think the wiser move is looking at Fleury.

With Muzz on LTIR, we’d be able to take on Fleury’s full cap hit with Mrazek going the other way which would lower the cost.

I’m not the biggest fan, but Max Domi could be a spark plug into the lineup. Pure rental, and shouldn’t cost to much to acquire, even with 50% retained and/or Kerfoot going the other way

Our actual core of defensemen aren’t bad. We’ve largely lost our games recently due to goaltending. Really since the calendar turned we haven’t had quality goaltending.

If we can add Fleury, and upgrade our offense, it’ll solve more if our issues.
 
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Legion34 said:
lindholm would be the guy I think.
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Giordano?

Could make more sense for us now, both this year and next (if Muzzin is done). Doesn't impact Sandin's development. Shouldn't cost a 1st as a rental, especially at that cap hit (which we should be able to eat without retention).

I imagine the Leafs will call about him if Muzzin is done, and will run with Dermott/Sandin full time in the interm.
 
leafsfan2point0 said:
After this game it’s definitely Chychrun time assuming Muzzin goes on LTIR
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Is Chychrun really THAT good? I'm still kinda not convinced that he's the guy that's worth spending a ton of assets on. Right now I wouldn't mind if the Leafs brought up some guys who have been doing well on the Marlies and giving them a try for a while and see how they do and then decide if they need to make a move closer to the deadline. Who knows maybe some of the things that the Leafs need are in our system and we just need to give them a chance?
 
GQS said:
Is Chychrun really THAT good? I'm still kinda not convinced that he's the guy that's worth spending a ton of assets on. Right now I wouldn't mind if the Leafs brought up some guys who have been doing well on the Marlies and giving them a try for a while and see how they do and then decide if they need to make a move closer to the deadline. Who knows maybe some of the things that the Leafs need are in our system and we just need to give them a chance?
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He's a guy who could maybe replace what Rielly brings to the table. Maybe.

I would not count on him as a guy who can replace Muzzin.
 
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Cor said:
If Muzzin goes on LTIR, I think the wiser move is looking at Fleury.

With Muzz on LTIR, we’d be able to take on Fleury’s full cap hit with Mrazek going the other way which would lower the cost.

I’m not the biggest fan, but Max Domi could be a spark plug into the lineup. Pure rental, and shouldn’t cost to much to acquire, even with 50% retained and/or Kerfoot going the other way

Our actual core of defensemen aren’t bad. We’ve largely lost our games recently due to goaltending. Really since the calendar turned we haven’t had quality goaltending.

If we can add Fleury, and upgrade our offense, it’ll solve more if our issues.
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if we can add Fleury and send Mrazek the other way I’d be all for it.

Max Domi would add an extra pest/rat we definitely could use.

Chychrun/ JT Miller would be a great add if we could get them at a decent price.
 
GQS said:
Is Chychrun really THAT good? I'm still kinda not convinced that he's the guy that's worth spending a ton of assets on. Right now I wouldn't mind if the Leafs brought up some guys who have been doing well on the Marlies and giving them a try for a while and see how they do and then decide if they need to make a move closer to the deadline. Who knows maybe some of the things that the Leafs need are in our system and we just need to give them a chance?
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A good thing about Chychrun is we would have him for at least 4 playoff runs at a good price and he’s only 23 so he could still improve. If we’re giving up a 1st and multiple prospects he would be a better add then trading a 1st and prospects for a rental.

There’s potential to go in a lot of different directions. It’s definitely clear the leafs need to improve still if they want to do damage.
 
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If you're going to spend premium assets, Chychrun is the person to use those assets on, you get him for 4 playoff runs and at a very reasonable caphit of 4.6m whose just entering his prime.

Adding him though severely makes it harder to resign Campbell,Kase,Mikheyev,Engvall,Sandin,Lilligren. None of these players apart from Campbell are going to get significant money, but they all add up. Might be doable if you subtract Dermott, Holl, Mrzaek (7.3m)
 
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Okay I doubt a goalie is high priority as I think Dubas wants to run with what we have. I am not convinced nor confident in either goalie in a playoff run. Are there any upper echelon goalies available that would make a difference?
 
leafsfan2point0 said:
A good thing about Chychrun is we would have him for at least 4 playoff runs at a good price and he’s only 23 so he could still improve. If we’re giving up a 1st and multiple prospects he would be a better add then trading a 1st and prospects for a rental.

There’s potential to go in a lot of different directions. It’s definitely clear the leafs need to improve still if they want to do damage.
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The best thing about chychrun is that at any point we could still trade him and get what we paid for him back

these r the decisions I’d love to start seeing
Not the cheap useless ones
Mrazek sucks, he’s got interested, bye
Mikhaev is playing for a contract we can’t afford next year, he’s got good stats this year
Bye…sell high

keep losing ufa for free just doesn’t cut it
 
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I know it's been said before but it's time to explore moving that Muzzin contract

Even when he is fit to play he looks like a cheap imitation of himself

His dropoff is looking obvious and precipitous at this point in time
 
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Dragao6 said:
The best thing about chychrun is that at any point we could still trade him and get what we paid for him back

these r the decisions I’d love to start seeing
Not the cheap useless ones
Mrazek sucks, he’s got interested, bye
Mikhaev is playing for a contract we can’t afford next year, he’s got good stats this year
Bye…sell high

keep losing ufa for free just doesn’t cut it
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If the GM thinks the team is a true contender, he should keep the UFAs and let them walk. I think he's wrong, but he thinks we're contenders.
 
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Torontonian said:
If you're going to spend premium assets, Chychrun is the person to use those assets on, you get him for 4 playoff runs and at a very reasonable caphit of 4.6m whose just entering his prime.

Adding him though severely makes it harder to resign Campbell,Kase,Mikheyev,Engvall,Sandin,Lilligren. None of these players apart from Campbell are going to get significant money, but they all add up. Might be doable if you subtract Dermott, Holl, Mrzaek (7.3m)
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Liljegren can be had for minimum salary, Mikheyev should be gone, Engvall should likely also be gone. Kase makes sense if the money works. Sandin, I don't see how he gets anything more than 1.2-1.5M. Mrazaek should be dealt imo if that' still a possibility.

Unfortunately, Muzzin has a NTC in terms of trying to move on from him and adding Chychrun still doesn't address our glaring weakness of RD. Leafs are quickly approaching not having a single winger making more than 1M after Nylander as looking as the only viable option. Robertson, Amirov etc and co desperately need to come in here and allow us to move on from Kerfoot, Kase etc so we can add on the backend.

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This lineup is obviously not complete, but its already looking super difficult. Wonder if we could swing Muzzin to Arizona.

After July 1st, 2022, Muzzin is owed 6M in actual cash but takes up 5.625M cap per year. Would be useful to a team looking to meet the capfloor yet not spend as much cash.
 
trellaine201 said:
Okay I doubt a goalie is high priority as I think Dubas wants to run with what we have. I am not convinced nor confident in either goalie in a playoff run. Are there any upper echelon goalies available that would make a difference?
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MAF is the one that comes to mind for me
 
Problem is we need another RHD to play top 4.

Hearing Lyub needs a puck moving dman to play and that is Sandin, not Muzzin.

Solution:

-Get Chychrun and play him with Lyub on the 2nd pair.
-Muzzin goes on LTIR until the playoffs.
-Muzzin and Holl play bottom pair in the playoffs.

Move Muzzin in the off season. Sandy becomes your #3LD if you can avoid moving him for Chychrun.
 
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ToneDog said:
Simplest move I see.

-Get Chychrun to play with Lyub on the 2nd pair.
-Muzzin goes on LTIR until the playoffs.
-Muzzin and Holl play bottom pair in the playoffs.

Move Muzzin in the off season. Sandy becomes your #3LD if you can avoid moving him for Chychrun.
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Get Giordano for the rest of the season. Simplest and cheapest move.

If Chychrun plays at his current level, he's no help. Unless the price is very low because of his 11 points and -28 in 39 games, I pass.
 
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