GDT: Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 PART VIII

[al secord]

At what age did we trade Stralman?

 

[zeke]

At what age did we trade Stralman?

Age 23.

And he was nowhere near as good as Lilly is now

 

[al secord]

Age 23.

And he was nowhere near as good as Lilly is now

Exactly

 

[Nylanderthal]

Yes it does but he and Sandin won't break the bank. Holl and Dermott coming off the books will cover both more or less.

Agree with this. I don’t think either one breaks the 1.75m threshold on a bridge

 

[Bigmarycombo]

Wouldn’t be surprised to see muzzin go on LTIR for the rest of the contract. Each successive concussion makes it easier for another one. I wouldn’t trade sandin lilly Niemela knies Robertson at all for anything.

KERFOOT holl dermott our next couple of firsts and our 2023 2nd if need be plus any other prospect not named above.

 

[cookie]

he’s on a real top end team that is going to have serious cap issues in a few seasons. Why would they move him?

In my opinion, he's a buy low option right now, more of a toolsy project than a complete player. The Wild are playing great 5v5 but their special teams are middle of the pack. Greenway's 5v5 stats aren't the best btw and I think that's the reason why his role on the team is that of a checking line forward with secondary PK and PP roles... but at the age of 25, with 3 more years at $3M per, is this a guy the Wild want to allot cap space to? A trade between the NHL's #1PP/#3PK and the NHL's #11PP/#23PK that includes him could work. FWIW, the tools I'm interested in are based on his NCAA production and size+skating combo.

 

[OVO16]

Instead of going all-in with our newfound cap-space....I'd much rather try get 2-3 really good depth pieces to fill us out.

Pieces who play a robust style of game would be ideal. Goodrow/Coleman types that Tampa had during their cup run

 

[Holls Blackmail]

Wouldn’t be surprised to see muzzin go on LTIR for the rest of the contract. Each successive concussion makes it easier for another one. I wouldn’t trade sandin lilly Niemela knies Robertson at all for anything.

KERFOOT holl dermott our next couple of firsts and our 2023 2nd if need be plus any other prospect not named above.

IMO Robertson can go if there's a deal to improve the team now - he's nothing special. Kid can't stay on his feet or healthy. Every team has a or some prospects like him.

 

[stickty111]

IMO Robertson can go if there's a deal to improve the team now - he's nothing special. Kid can't stay on his feet or healthy. Every team has a or some prospects like him.

Thats not true

 

[Holls Blackmail]

Thats not true

He falls down more than Kadri did in his first 2 pro seasons and he's got Lupul-esque health.

Wish the kid well but he ain't it.

 

[stickty111]

He falls down more than Kadri did in his first 2 pro seasons and he's got Lupul-esque health.

Wish the kid well but he ain't it.

Said that about so many prospects only for them to make the team look bad.
How about we learn from mistakes?

 

[Holls Blackmail]

Said that about so many prospects only for them to make the team look bad.
How about we learn from mistakes?

Are you saying he's going to be a bonafide NHL superstar that will burn us?

 

[Burnie97]

He falls down more than Kadri did in his first 2 pro seasons and he's got Lupul-esque health.

Wish the kid well but he ain't it.

K... and kadri is decent now ... no? Decent career?

Are you saying he's going to be a bonafide NHL superstar that will burn us?

Yup he'll be top 10 in no time....

f*** sakes


Let's see how he does in a 5 to 10 game opportunity Debbie f***ing downer.

 

[OVO16]

Hypothetically if Eklund is right and we are actually interested in Ristolainen....I have to assume he can be had for cheap tbh. He's on like the 3rd tier of defenseman available and he hasn't had the greatest of years in Philly. Albeit, i don't know how much that has to do with just playing for a bad team. No one stands out in Philly


Would ya'll do Ristolainen for Holl 1 for 1?

 

[OVO16]

Keeping the Arizona train alive...Johan Larrsson might be someone i can see Dubas having interest in. He's a solid utility player who's great on the faceoffs and has grit. Could be another David Kampf type of target

 

[stickty111]

Are you saying he's going to be a bonafide NHL superstar that will burn us?

No but even a top 6 forward could hurt us. Lets not evaluate a kid so early. He's only what 20?

 

[GoodNewfieBoy]

What about bringing Andreas Johnsson back or Pavel Zacha ?

 

[Kiwi]

Are you saying he's going to be a bonafide NHL superstar that will burn us?

Steen and Stralman weren't bonafide NHL superstars but I'm pretty sure most of us wish we had held onto them instead of selling them for pennies on the dollar

Hypothetically if Eklund is right and we are actually interested in Ristolainen....I have to assume he can be had for cheap tbh. He's on like the 3rd tier of defenseman available and he hasn't had the greatest of years in Philly. Albeit, i don't know how much that has to do with just playing for a bad team. No one stands out in Philly


Would ya'll do Ristolainen for Holl 1 for 1?

Nope, I'd rather keep Holl and he's royally pissing me off this season

Ristolainen has tools but zero toolbox

No but even a top 6 forward could hurt us. Lets not evaluate a kid so early. He's only what 20?

Damn, that old
Time to get rid of him

 

[Antropovsky]

Hypothetically if Eklund is right and we are actually interested in Ristolainen....I have to assume he can be had for cheap tbh. He's on like the 3rd tier of defenseman available and he hasn't had the greatest of years in Philly. Albeit, i don't know how much that has to do with just playing for a bad team. No one stands out in Philly


Would ya'll do Ristolainen for Holl 1 for 1?

Eklund? He has as much credibility as any one us... he throws $&#^ at walls and hopes it sticks. I have waited and waited for him to get one thing right since 2005 and he doesn't. Even someone guessing could've hit something in that time.

 

[meefer]

Kid lights up the O at an historic rate, injuries derail, and since he’s returned from his broken leg (not a terrible long term concern) his GM speaks to his improved skating and two of his goals display that shot that wows. If we move on him, it better be for someone damned good.

 

[Puckstuff]

If this team can get 16-20 goal seasons out of Robertson and Anderson next year and then they add someone like J.T Miller the top 9 for next season and this playoffs would be ridiculous.

 

[Puckstuff]

What about bringing Andreas Johnsson back or Pavel Zacha ?

Johnson isn’t a better option for the top 6 then what we have and he’s not big enough for the bottom 6. Basically he’s what we already have and we need more grit.

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

Hypothetically if Eklund is right and we are actually interested in Ristolainen....I have to assume he can be had for cheap tbh. He's on like the 3rd tier of defenseman available and he hasn't had the greatest of years in Philly. Albeit, i don't know how much that has to do with just playing for a bad team. No one stands out in Philly


Would ya'll do Ristolainen for Holl 1 for 1?

No, Ristolainen is terrible and more expensive than Holl.

Holl has at least been decent without Muzzin/not in a top 4 role this year.

 

[thusk]

Age 23.

And he was nowhere near as good as Lilly is now

When you played in a awful team its hard to look good for a guy like stralman

 

[dubplatepressure]

Johnson isn’t a better option for the top 6 then what we have and he’s not big enough for the bottom 6. Basically he’s what we already have and we need more grit.

Yeah he's fallen back down to earth now after a really good start to the year. I'd rather replace from within than spend on him. Anderson and Steeves are both decent depth / replacement options (on top of Robertson).