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GDT: Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 PART VII

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SeaOfBlue said:
I do not like Clifford getting in over Gogolev and Douglas... especially on the 3rd line.

He didn't even look good in the AHL. If we could trade him, we should... otherwise, he should be a 16th forward for the Marlies like Gabriel was.
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To be fair, he hasn't played in a while and any team that wants to acquire him or even if the Leafs need to use him again, will want to see him in the line-up. Clifford means more to the Leafs this year than Douglas would. I know the Marlies haven't played since Feb 5th, but they also have 3 games in 4 nights, so Douglas will likely get in 2 of those.
 
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SeaOfBlue said:
I do not like Clifford getting in over Gogolev and Douglas... especially on the 3rd line.

He didn't even look good in the AHL. If we could trade him, we should... otherwise, he should be a 16th forward for the Marlies like Gabriel was.
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I get what you are saying. Clifford needs some minutes, just on the odd chance we need him at some point. A game here, and a game there is necessary. Douglas has been getting most of the games.
 
Ducks really make a lot of sense as a trade partner, for more than just one guy.

At 50% retention....

Rakell $1.89
Getzlaf $1.50
Manson $2.05
 
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Dump Ritchie + any C level prospect to Philli

1st (2022) + Dermott for Mayfield

Amirov for Rakell (@50%) + Benoit (@50%)


May or may not need a third party for additional retention on one of Rakell or Benoit.
 
Fogelhund said:
Nylander is a guy who likes to carry the puck. Kessel needs to carry the puck.

Kessel would need to be on the third line to be effective, and I just don’t see a fit.
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Kessel is a great passer though, and he never played with anyone who could finish like we have
 
123offtheglass said:
Dump Ritchie + any C level prospect to Philli

1st (2022) + Dermott for Mayfield

Amirov for Rakell (@50%) + Benoit (@50%)

May or may not need a third party for additional retention on one of Rakell or Benoit.
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Hawks/Vegas owe us one for the Lehner trade. Let's see if they return the favor as 3rd party. Vegas obviously can't, but maybe Hawks will step up and pay their debt.
 
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DraftSchmaft said:
Kerfoot very excellent Pker...but our team is still elite on the PK without him. Kampf and Marner are the captains there. So impact wise I disagree. We're better with McCann in the top 6 and on PP2 versus Kerfoot in top 6 and on PK. Boost ES goals, have someone who can play PP1 and score on PP if we get an injury, and get a stronger PP2 in the event PP1 goes cold and we need a goal.

I'm looking at the net gain. I agree with you there's some loss with losing Kerfoot.
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You do realize this team ranks higher in GF (4th) than PK (6th)?

Seems silly to want to take away from the PK, especially as an area we’ve struggled for decades, for more offense.
 
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The Podium said:
You do realize this team ranks higher in GF (4th) than PK (6th)?

Seems silly to want to take away from the PK, especially as an area we’ve struggled for decades, for more offense.
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You do realize in this thread people are thinking about playoff games when they make moves? The goal increase from McCann over Kerfoot more than makes up for any PK drop. Kerfoot has 7 goals right now, McCann has 20.......

Do you think our PK is no longer elite if we lose Kerfoot? If the answer is yes then I see where we won't see eye to eye. My answer is no, our PK will remain good without Kerfoot.

I have no idea why you think comparing GF rank to PK rank means anything? What's the relation to this ranking? Kerfoot has 7 goals, so he's a big reason why that GF is 4th and not 1-3. I want to win a cup here, not brag about regular season ranks.

When playoffs start the slate is wiped clean. I don't need to remind you some of the issue we faced last 2 years.
 
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Avilaj07 said:
Adam Brooks waived by Vegas. Would love for the Leafs to bring him back and replace Simmonds with him. Played well here and had great chemistry with Spezza. Would be a good depth add.
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Yeah, decent player. Good soldier who should never have been waived in the first place.
 
This may not be popular but how about,

To Toronto-
Konechny
Braun
Laughton

To Philadelphia-
Nylander
Ritchie
 
showtime8 said:
As much as I liked Kessel when he was here, he's not the style of player that the Leafs need on the team at this time and I'm not really sure where he would play in the line-up.
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I agree. I think someone will snap him up at that kinda of price, but I don’t see it making sense for us. He doesn’t play the style of game I would be looking for as an addition to this group
 
Fogelhund said:
Why not just Mrazek + prospect for MAF @ 50%?
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I don't think Mrazek carries the deal. Jack might. I'd want to do the deal earlier than later and from what I've read, it took MAF some time to adjust to the Chicago style of play, I'd want to give him all the lead time possible to adjust and feel comfortable with what we offer. But heck, if your's carries the day, why not?
 
meefer said:
I don't think Mrazek carries the deal. Jack might. I'd want to do the deal earlier than later and from what I've read, it took MAF some time to adjust to the Chicago style of play, I'd want to give him all the lead time possible to adjust and feel comfortable with what we offer. But heck, if your's carries the day, why not?
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I like the idea of MAF for Jack cause you still have Mrazek signed and cap to get someone else. But I think it's too bold a move and won't happen.
 
Avilaj07 said:
This may not be popular but how about,

To Toronto-
Konechny
Braun
Laughton

To Philadelphia-
Nylander
Ritchie
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No way in hell, I'd rather just go after Braun alone. Nylander is far and away the best player in this deal and it's not close. I like Konecny too and wish we had just drafted him instead of trading down for Dermott + Bracco, but I don't want him at the cost of Nylander.
 
DraftSchmaft said:
You do realize in this thread people are thinking about playoff games when they make moves? The goal increase from McCann over Kerfoot more than makes up for any PK drop. Kerfoot has 7 goals right now, McCann has 20.......

Do you think our PK is no longer elite if we lose Kerfoot? If the answer is yes then I see where we won't see eye to eye. My answer is no, our PK will remain good without Kerfoot.

I have no idea why you think comparing GF rank to PK rank means anything? What's the relation to this ranking? Kerfoot has 7 goals, so he's a big reason why that GF is 4th and not 1-3. I want to win a cup here, not brag about regular season ranks.

When playoffs start the slate is wiped clean. I don't need to remind you some of the issue we faced last 2 years.
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Youre making some wild assumptions

A) McCann would likely not have a 17% shooting % here, especially when 1/3rd if his goals have come on the PP

B) Who subs in for Kerfoot on PK2? The issues in years past was not having 2 players capable of winning face offs on the Pk

I am comparing PK to GF because changing from Kerfoot to McCann means downgrading the Pk to improve GF. Considering we have the #1PP McCann wouldn’t help there.

If we are trying to improve for the playoffs why are we subbing out Kerfoot for McCann when the latter has 1 playoff point last season and 3 playoff points his entire career?
 
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McSnypsky said:
I like the idea of MAF for Jack cause you still have Mrazek signed and cap to get someone else. But I think it's too bold a move and won't happen.
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I dont think maf is really am upgrade over campbell.

Campbell is amaizing since he is in toronto and was very good in playoff, hes not the reason why toronto lost... so i dont know why people start to blame it for what a serie 4 game in 2 year he didnt look good?

And Maf is a 37 years goalie, he pretty old for a goalie
 
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The Podium said:
Youre making some wild assumptions

A) McCann would likely not have a 17% shooting % here, especially when 1/3rd if his goals have come on the PP

B) Who subs in for Kerfoot on PK2? The issues in years past was not having 2 players capable of winning face offs on the Pk

I am comparing PK to GF because changing from Kerfoot to McCann means downgrading the Pk to improve GF. Considering we have the #1PP McCann wouldn’t help there.

If we are trying to improve for the playoffs why are we subbing out Kerfoot for McCann when the latter has 1 playoff point last season and 3 playoff points his entire career?
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Kase can replace Kerfoot on that 2nd pk unit. He pked for ANA. I don't think Kerfoot's 36% faceoff win rate this year is very integral for our pk.
 
thusk said:
I dont think maf is really am upgrade over campbell.

Campbell is amaizing since he is in toronto and was very good in playoff, hes not the reason why toronto lost... so i dont know why people start to blame it for what a serie 4 game in 2 year he didnt look good?

And Maf is not a 37 years goalie, he pretty old for a goalie
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For me it's that both of them are UFA, MAF has won before and could possibly settle down the team as a whole. Jack let's another bad goal in a playoff game and it's gonna feel like "oh crap here we go again" You can let MAF walk or resign for a smaller amount that you have to pay Jack, and you still have Mrazek to play some games. Interesting thing is Mrazek is extremely streaky and I would not be surprised if he starts a few game in the playoffs.
 
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