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GDT: Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 PART VI

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SprDaVE said:
Most good teams don't have cap space and certainly won't like the 2.5M rolling into next season. Not sure Ritchie is what I'd consider "gritty" either.

Arizona will need players to finish the season and even next season. They are clearly tanking. Ritchie is the perfect player to get at such a low value, hope he does ok to flip at some point in the next 12 months.
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Nashville would be an excellent fit for Ritchie. They have cap space for him, or can give us Myers who has the same contract.

Calgary is another, and if they don't want to take his money pure, we can take back Pitlick's expiring contract. Pitlick has sucked, but he is decent depth if he can get back to form. Calgary also have his brother.

Ottawa is not competitive this year but I can see them giving him a chance if he comes for free.

That excludes deals where we can trade cap with another team, which the Leafs may also consider.
 
Need a top 6 winger. Mik can't even make a basic pass for an easy Nylander tap in to tie the game. I don't trust him to get things done when we need it most. If Keefe can't trust Kerfoot there anymore either (o-zone).....sort of have no choice now.
 
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Crouse, Schenn and one of Manson or Mayfield. We need some big strong physical defence men that make forwards think twice about going into the boards.
Teams look at our defence and know it's going to be an easy night on their bodies.
 
Warden of the North said:
Have to think it's for a similar contract in return that both teams are hoping the respective player needs a fresh start.
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I don't know that the Leafs are prepared to take anything back. Friedman mentioned a 300K hit on the books next season in the event of the contract being bought out. That information gave me the impression that the Leafs might retain that much, if necessary.
 
SeaOfBlue said:
Nashville would be an excellent fit for Ritchie. They have cap space for him, or can give us Myers who has the same contract.

Calgary is another, and if they don't want to take his money pure, we can take back Pitlick's expiring contract. Pitlick has sucked, but he is decent depth if he can get back to form. Calgary also have his brother.

Ottawa is not competitive this year but I can see them giving him a chance if he comes for free.

That excludes deals where we can trade cap with another team, which the Leafs may also consider.
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Calgary has zero cap or roster space for a bad player. They are not going to take over a more expensive player.

Ottawa is a possibility. They could have interest with Dorion at the helm.

Nashville is the only decent team with cap space and possible interest. They have a lot of "Ritchies" on their roster though and I'd be shocked if they had interest in that kind of player going into next season.
 
SprDaVE said:
Calgary has zero cap or roster space for a bad player. They are not going to take over a more expensive player.

Ottawa is a possibility. They could have interest with Dorion at the helm.

Nashville is the only decent team with cap space and possible interest. They have a lot of "Ritchies" on their roster though and I'd be shocked if they had interest in that kind of player going into next season.
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Zona makes most sense if you can entice them with a good enough sweetener.
 
CantLoseWithMatthews said:
If Dubas has said that his plan was to let the team get healthy and then evaluate, I think the incredibly obvious need is someone who can score some goals. This isn't just new, it's been a problem pretty much every playoff run
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We have a ton of guys who can score goals. They just need to show up at the right time.

We have the top PP in the league and are tied for the 5th most GF/60 at 5-on-5. How that is an "obvious need" and not just another overreaction is going to be interesting to explain.

We need to make sure games like this don't continue happening in the playoffs, but that solution (if there is one) won't come externally... Even if that is constantly the avenue that fans will want their solutions to come through. It comes from our clearly high end offense starting to convert more on their opportunities.
 
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SprDaVE said:
Calgary has zero cap or roster space for a bad player. They are not going to take over a more expensive player.

Ottawa is a possibility. They could have interest with Dorion at the helm.

Nashville is the only decent team with cap space and possible interest. They have a lot of "Ritchies" on their roster though and I'd be shocked if they had interest in that kind of player going into next season.
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Ritchie is really not a "bad" player though. He is a bad fit for our system, and could not finish the chances he had, but you get a team that finds value in slower power wingers like Ritchie and he will do more than fine. He is a guy who has a lot more value to another team than to us.

Florida would be another great fit, but I doubt either team wants to help each other out right now, and Florida would have trouble fitting Ritchie in next year. Florida has made the expiring Vatrano available to trade for a while, and he is exactly what the Leafs could use in their bottom 6 right now, while Florida has turned numerous guys like Ritchie into stars with their system. Same cap hit for this year.

Calgary is a team that needs some scoring depth in their bottom 6, has a ton of cap space next year, and has enough cap space this year to make it work if we take Pitlick back. I personally feel like Nashville is the best spot, but Calgary is another one that makes a lot of sense. He likely doesn't cost them assets, and he has some term. There is some risk involved, but there is also a good amount of upside.
 
SeaOfBlue said:
We have a ton of guys who can score goals. They just need to show up at the right time.

We have the top PP in the league and are tied for the 5th most GF/60 at 5-on-5. How that is an "obvious need" and not just another overreaction is going to be interesting to explain.

We need to make sure games like this don't continue happening in the playoffs, but that solution (if there is one) won't come externally... Even if that is constantly the avenue that fans will want their solutions to come through. It comes from our clearly high end offense starting to convert more on their opportunities.
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Not including tonight's game, the Leafs are 21st in the league in goals scored above expected (5v5) at -5.7, which just isn't good enough finishing. They do create a ton of chances, but that's why they need more players who can make good on them. Scoring a lot of goals through sheer volume might work over the course of a long season, but that doesn't really matter when we're talking about a short playoff series. How many players do you think could actually break a game open with their goal scoring on the team right now? What if one of them get injured? With the way the playoffs have gone for the Leafs every year with this team, it doesn't make any sense to claim they have enough offense as it is
 
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I really think the Leafs need another good solid scoring forward who is not a liability on defense.
And I am not talking about someone who gets his goals on the PP or topline minutes. Someone who plays on the 2nd line but can pot in goals here and there without PP.
 
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Gabriel426 said:
I really think the Leafs need another good solid scoring forward who is not a liability on defense.
And I am not talking about someone who gets his goals on the PP or topline minutes. Someone who plays on the 2nd line but can pot in goals here and there without PP.
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I did some research. Couldn't find any available top 6 player that's from Soo
We may be out of luck
 
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Gabriel426 said:
I really think the Leafs need another good solid scoring forward who is not a liability on defense.
And I am not talking about someone who gets his goals on the PP or topline minutes. Someone who plays on the 2nd line but can pot in goals here and there without PP.
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I wouldn't say it's an urgent priority but a Kerfoot upgrade might be nice. 6 goals on the year playing alongside JT and Nylander is pretty underwhelming .. Yes he's had his moments of making plays and has versatility on the PK, but you're looking for someone like Bunting who can slide on that line and elevate its production

All that said, Kerfoot's been one of our best playoff performers in the last couple of years, so maybe he'll take it up a notch in the playoffs.

When David Kampf is your third line centre, the offense only goes so far. But thankfully the team defense has improved a lot to compensate.
 
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CantLoseWithMatthews said:
Not including tonight's game, the Leafs are 21st in the league in goals scored above expected (5v5) at -5.7, which just isn't good enough finishing. They do create a ton of chances, but that's why they need more players who can make good on them. Scoring a lot of goals through sheer volume might work over the course of a long season, but that doesn't really matter when we're talking about a short playoff series. How many players do you think could actually break a game open with their goal scoring on the team right now? What if one of them get injured? With the way the playoffs have gone for the Leafs every year with this team, it doesn't make any sense to claim they have enough offense as it is
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Much of that comes from Nylander, Ritchie, and our 4th line (as well as today where we went -3.39).

If you can upgrade our 4th line for a reasonable cost, by all means. Spezza and Simmonds have not been great 5-on-5, even by an expectation standpoint. Ritchie has been heavily snake bitten all year and was exiled from the team (I doubt he would have been if he had converted on his chances).

Nylander is right there with Ritchie in terms of worst on the team in that regard, but are we getting rid of Nylander because he can't finish? If not him, who are we replacing? Kerfoot is by far the best on the team in that regard. Sure, he doesn't score a lot himself, but he does a lot to help his line mates score. Bunting is up there. Our 3rd line doesn't provide much in terms of offense, but they are stellar defensively and they are pretty much breaking even in terms of expectation.
 
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SeaOfBlue said:
Much of that comes from Nylander, Ritchie, and our 4th line (as well as today where we went -3.39).

If you can upgrade our 4th line for a reasonable cost, by all means. Spezza and Simmonds have not been great 5-on-5, even by an expectation standpoint. Ritchie has been heavily snake bitten all year and was exiled from the team (I doubt he would have been if he had converted on his chances).

Nylander is right there with Ritchie in terms of worst on the team in that regard, but are we getting rid of Nylander because he can't finish? If not him, who are we replacing? Kerfoot is by far the best on the team in that regard. Sure, he doesn't score a lot himself, but he does a lot to help his line mates score. Bunting is up there. Our 3rd line doesn't provide much in terms of offense, but they are stellar defensively and they are pretty much breaking even in terms of expectation.
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I'm really thinking that Spezza is being dragged down by Simmonds .. Simmonds just doesn't have it this season. Doesn't bring the energy and impact physically to change the tone of the game .. isn't proving much offensively.

I'd love to give Anderson a regular look there and bump Simmonds to the press box. Wayne could provide a spark in a playoff series for a couple of games if needed, but right now he looks dogged by the grind of the NHL season.

I thought he was injured for a stretch this year and I just noticed he's been in all 42 games ... shows how visible he's been.
 
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BertCorbeau said:
I'm really thinking that Spezza is being dragged down by Simmonds .. Simmonds just doesn't have it this season. Doesn't bring the energy and impact physically to change the tone of the game .. isn't proving much offensively.

I'd love to give Anderson a regular look there and bump Simmonds to the press box. Wayne could provide a spark in a playoff series for a couple of games if needed, but right now he looks dogged by the grind of the NHL season.

I thought he was injured for a stretch this year and I just noticed he's been in all 42 games ... shows how visible he's been.
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Spezza is slowing down too, and he was never a fast guy in the first place. He does fine on the cycle, but he has not looked good in transition and he is not great in his own end.

Spezza's value at this point is faceoffs and PP. That is really it. Simmonds mostly just brings a physical presence, and that mostly only shows itself when someone on the other team does something dirty (which doesn't happen as often as people thing).

I would be good with Anderson getting a longer look, or getting a solid 13th forward in a trade who can rotate into the lineup with Simmonds and Spezza. That is probably the place we can get the biggest bang for our buck in terms of an offensive upgrade right now.
 
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