GDT: Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 PART V

[TML1967]

Also why I'm shifting more towards impact forward over D. Similar to Pens back to back cup runs in 16 and 17. We don't need prime Kessel level because we have 4 big forwards, but someone with the potential to go near point per game beside one of matthews/marner/nylander is a more significant add than a no.4 based on the names available.

Got a taste of life without muzzin-holl. If anyone has a shred of integrity they will admit Muzzin-Holl actually is a good pairing. Our defence sucks without it. Rielly-Brodie Muzzin-Holl is not the end of the world if they roll with it. Do I want to upgrade Holl? Yes. Has my opinion changed that it's a mandatory upgrade? Also yes. 50% of my 600 posts are "get rid of Holl" posts, so this post is major for me and out of my comfort zone.

What I did see is we need some backup #6 instead just incase Liljegren doesn't have a good playoffs.

Sandin was miles ahead of Liljegren today last season and got wrecked in the playoffs, so need to have a contingency plan. A Bogosian on standby so to speak.

I posted earlier, but I agree improving the forward group is just as important.
I will stand by my earlier post and say getting a better offensive version of Kampf for the third line would really help this team in the playoffs, as well as getting rid of Kerfoot since Nylander+Tavares have played better with him not on their line. Move Kerfoot while his counting stats are high, and get someone who has a better overall impact on the game.
My suggestion to help the bottom pair/#7 and improve the 3C was Siegenthaler and Zacha. If you want a cheaper faster version of Zacha, go for Mcleod.
By dropping Kampf to the 4th line, and adding one of Zacha or Mcleod to the 3C you add more offense to the third line and make the bottom 6 forward group faster overall.

Siegs is one of the better defense first blueliners this year who has faced tough competition and started most of his time in the defensive zone. He is not good offensively but thats not my concern for our 3rd pair. Hes playing almost 19 minutes a night, and has a postive Corsi and Corsi rel on a bad team, and has a positive expected goal differential. In a bottom pair/spare guy I want someone who is a calming presence and can PK.

The other trade I proposed was DeHaan@50+Hagel.

 

[TML1967]

Kadri going to the Sens is my prediction

I like Steve Dangels take that he will end up a Hab.
They have decent space, he grew up a Habs fan, and adding a good C would help them a ton.
Also a Galagher-Kadri-Anderson line would drive people NUTS.

 

[Dreakmur]

Vs MTL Only:

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How about Columbus? Can you spin that humiliating loss into a silver lining too?

 

[ACC1224]

I like Steve Dangels take that he will end up a Hab.
They have decent space, he grew up a Habs fan, and adding a good C would help them a ton.
Also a Galagher-Kadri-Anderson line would drive people NUTS.

Now there's something you don't hear very often, if ever.

 

[zeke]

How about Columbus? Can you spin that humiliating loss into a silver lining too?

 

[TheBeastCoast]

How about Columbus? Can you spin that humiliating loss into a silver lining too?

I mean...we didn't lose to Columbus because we couldn't keep the puck out of our own net. We have lost to Montreal and Columbus because our shooters have gone ice cold and can't put the puck in the back of the net. I swear some Leaf fans don't actually even watch the same games. It's the same as people endlessly babbling on that we lost to Boston because they bullied us...when that absolutely was not the reason we lost those series to anyone that actually opened their eyes and was open to what the actual problems were/are.

 

[Dreakmur]

I mean...we didn't lose to Columbus because we couldn't keep the puck out of our own net. We have lost to Montreal and Columbus because our shooters have gone ice cold and can't put the puck in the back of the net. I swear some Leaf fans don't actually even watch the same games. It's the same as people endlessly babbling on that we lost to Boston because they bullied us...when that absolutely was not the reason we lost those series to anyone that actually opened their eyes and was open to what the actual problems were/are.

I know exactly why we lost. We’re soft and to defend in a series.

The fact that we had good defensive metrics has mostly to do with our opponents being poor offensive teams.

 

[zeke]

I know exactly why we lost. We’re soft and to defend in a series.

The fact that we had good defensive metrics has mostly to do with our opponents being poor offensive teams.

False.

See: above

 

[LeafChief]

Kadri going to the Sens is my prediction

Maybe the Flyers?

The Owner and GM held a press conference this week where they said they won't rebuild and that the GM has a 'blank cheque book'.

 

[LeafChief]

I woonder if Morgan Frost is a player that is about a season away from exploding a la Troy Terry and Jordan Kyrou who both started out slow.

Maybe be an interesting buy low option if the Flyers have soured on him.

 

[Scion]

I know exactly why we lost. We’re soft and to defend in a series.

The fact that we had good defensive metrics has mostly to do with our opponents being poor offensive teams.

LOL what? You claimed the Leafs suck defensively, but then when you were disproven with evidence you shifted the goal posts to well the other team just sucks offensively. Yes, because the Leafs played good defense!

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I know exactly why we lost. We’re soft and to defend in a series.

The fact that we had good defensive metrics has mostly to do with our opponents being poor offensive teams.

Again this is letting your feelings get in the way of what actually is happening. The Leafs have had issues in the playoffs that have caused them to lose. People like to act like the media is dumb and useless and all this other stuff....yet still we see these dumb media driven narratives about the Leafs being to soft to win in the playoffs and the defense not being good enough getting just gobbled up year after year.

 

[leafsfan5]

I know exactly why we lost. We’re soft and to defend in a series.

The fact that we had good defensive metrics has mostly to do with our opponents being poor offensive teams.

But the stats don't bare that out. Other clubs performed worse against MTL than we did. Zeke's post outlines that only TB was better at defending

This team has concerns for the playoffs, specifically if our stars will produce. But past failures can't be attributed to the defense, which was solid

 

[ACC1224]

But the stats don't bare that out. Other clubs performed worse against MTL than we did. Zeke's post outlines that only TB was better at defending

This team has concerns for the playoffs, specifically if our stars will produce. But past failures can't be attributed to the defense, which was solid

They don't know how to flip the switch from regular season play to post season play, that much is obvious.
Perhaps they've learned and this will be the year.

 

[leafsfan5]

They don't know how to flip the switch from regular season play to post season play, that much is obvious.
Perhaps they've learned and this will be the year.

I just hope they become mentally stronger. Last year they folded in such an embarrassing way in game 7. Looked scared to do anything and played right into MTL's strategy

As usual the talent is there, it's up to them to work. They have the ability to go all the way

 

[ACC1224]

I just hope they become mentally stronger. Last year they folded in such an embarrassing way in game 7. Looked scared to do anything and played right into MTL's strategy

As usual the talent is there, it's up to them to work. They have the ability to go all the way

Hope is all we have unfortunately. I believe they will be better this year but I believed they would be better last year.

 

[Dragao6]

Playoffs Last 2yrs:

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2 Stanley cups for the 1st team


2nd team success??? Prob is fans get confident in the regular season and don’t understand why there’s no success in the playoffs, think teams roster is just fine, just like right now
And then when they lose fans want all these changes until the next regular season begins and we get a few wins
It’s a cycle that’s resulted in 0 playoff series wins in decades

 

[BertCorbeau]

Maybe the Flyers?

The Owner and GM held a press conference this week where they said they won't rebuild and that the GM has a 'blank cheque book'.

Another storied franchise being run into the ground.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Maybe the Flyers?

The Owner and GM held a press conference this week where they said they won't rebuild and that the GM has a 'blank cheque book'.

I don't think they have the cap space TBH .. $14 mill in projected space with half of their blue line to sign.

Frost is an intriguing option though

 

[stickty111]

LOL what? You claimed the Leafs suck defensively, but then when you were disproven with evidence you shifted the goal posts to well the other team just sucks offensively. Yes, because the Leafs played good defense!

Again this is letting your feelings get in the way of what actually is happening. The Leafs have had issues in the playoffs that have caused them to lose. People like to act like the media is dumb and useless and all this other stuff....yet still we see these dumb media driven narratives about the Leafs being to soft to win in the playoffs and the defense not being good enough getting just gobbled up year after year.

But the stats don't bare that out. Other clubs performed worse against MTL than we did. Zeke's post outlines that only TB was better at defending

This team has concerns for the playoffs, specifically if our stars will produce. But past failures can't be attributed to the defense, which was solid

I just hope they become mentally stronger. Last year they folded in such an embarrassing way in game 7. Looked scared to do anything and played right into MTL's strategy

As usual the talent is there, it's up to them to work. They have the ability to go all the way

Nevermimd

 

[TMLAM34]

I woonder if Morgan Frost is a player that is about a season away from exploding a la Troy Terry and Jordan Kyrou who both started out slow.

Maybe be an interesting buy low option if the Flyers have soured on him.

Would definitely be a good low key pickup. I can see Yzerman scooping him up and Frost becoming a solid 2nd line center for Detroit.

 

[Scion]

They don't know how to flip the switch from regular season play to post season play, that much is obvious.
Perhaps they've learned and this will be the year.

The Leafs have had the second-best goalie in every series they have played with this group, I think that is as big of a reason for their lack of success as anything else. It also doesn't help that they lost JT and Muzzin (plus a compromised Hyman) last playoffs, and Muzzin the year prior.

 

[zeke]

The Leafs have had the second-best goalie in every series they have played with this group, I think that is as big of a reason for their lack of success as anything else. It also doesn't help that they lost JT and Muzzin (plus a compromised Hyman) last playoffs, and Muzzin the year prior.

No excuse for matthews and marner to keep getting shut out.

 

[ACC1224]

The Leafs have had the second-best goalie in every series they have played with this group, I think that is as big of a reason for their lack of success as anything else. It also doesn't help that they lost JT and Muzzin (plus a compromised Hyman) last playoffs, and Muzzin the year prior.

Yes they have certainly made the opposing goalies look good and found some adversity which isn't uncommon in the playoffs.
Hopefully this is the year they can man up and push through for a series win.

 

[Dreakmur]

LOL what? You claimed the Leafs suck defensively, but then when you were disproven with evidence you shifted the goal posts to well the other team just sucks offensively. Yes, because the Leafs played good defense!

I never claimed they sucked defensively, though it sure does make it easy to disagree when you can just make up somebody else's opinion. They've been about average - maybe slightly above - since adding Brodie.

The other teams absolutely did suck offensively. Montreal was one of the worst offensive teams in the play-offs, and Columbus was one of the worst offensive teams in the whole league.