GDT: Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 PART III

[TMLAM34]

Martin Jones could be an option to back up Campbell next year. Definitely won’t get more than what he’s currently signed at for 2 million. Probably can get him for 1.5 million.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Martin Jones could be an option to back up Campbell next year. Definitely won’t get more than what he’s currently signed at for 2 million. Probably can get him for 1.5 million.

I'd look at Halak .. Or Khudobin if Dallas would retain 50% in a trade

Part of me wants to see Woll get some opportunities too

 

[ACC1224]

Is there a feeling out there that the top 6 needs to be upgraded? Curious because of this post, maybe I'm off base but I don't see the need for it at all.

Pretty sure Kessel has played some LW since leaving Toronto but regardless of that even at 34 you can't convince me he's not an upgrade on Ritchie,Engvall, Mikyehev etc.

To answer your question I'd have him bump down Kerfoot, because Kerfoot can play in the top 6
So imagine what he could do against lower competition.

If you have top 6 caliber players on your 3rd line you are looking good why do you think Tampa has the last 2 cups? one of the reasons is because they had at least 1 guy capable of being in the top 6 on the 3rd line.

Chances are Toronto will need to go through at least 1 , possibly both of Tampa or Florida so yeah I want 1 more top 6 forward.

It doesn't have to be Kessel, in fact I'm not sure It can because we are already retaining on him but yes a top 6 forward is absolutely a current need.

 

[SprDaVE]

I'd look at Halak .. Or Khudobin if Dallas would retain 50% in a trade

Part of me wants to see Woll get some opportunities too

I'd gamble on Woll being the back-up to be honest. I'd also sign a Hutchinson-esque veteran to compete for the role but likely heading to the Marlies. My hard limit would be 1.25M for a backup next season, or basically anything under the cap burial limit. Someone like maybe Forsberg, Kinkaid, Lankinen, Copley, Wedgewood or Alex Lyon. Jones or Korpisalo might get a little too much.

 

[ToneDog]

Is there a feeling out there that the top 6 needs to be upgraded? Curious because of this post, maybe I'm off base but I don't see the need for it at all.

IMO a top 4 RHD is the priority. If our forwards get shutdown again, we'd be better off keeping the puck out of our net.

 

[ACC1224]

IMO a top 4 RHD is the priority. If our forwards get shutdown again, we'd be better off keeping the puck out of net.

Yep, an upgrade on Holl is the top priority IMO.

 

[Beaumaris]

I'd look at Halak .. Or Khudobin if Dallas would retain 50% in a trade

Part of me wants to see Woll get some opportunities too

Really! What part?

 

[zeke]

I think most people are starting to realize that there is nothing urgently in NEED of an upgrade.

So the speculation is turning to - what players are available that are perfect fits that could really supercharge an area of the team?

 

[LeafChief]

I think most people are starting to realize that there is nothing urgently in NEED of an upgrade.

So the speculation is turning to - what players are available that are perfect fits that could really supercharge an area of the team?

Nothing wrong with that.

The team is pretty solid as is but no harm in looking to upgrade certain areas.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Yep, an upgrade on Holl is the top priority IMO.

If you read my posts and It seems you do you know I want him replaced

 

[showtime8]

Is there a feeling out there that the top 6 needs to be upgraded? Curious because of this post, maybe I'm off base but I don't see the need for it at all.

I think there are 2 elements to this where they won't ncessarily need to and it really goes down to the 3rd line.

1 - Can he get any sort of production from the 3rd line in terms of scoring. ie. Can Mikheyev or Kase provide some depth there? Kase - 15-20 goals would be gravy.

2 - Can Keefe maintain the 3rd line as the true shutdown line and get the top lines away from the other teams shutdown line, so they can score or have sustained offensive zone time. We have seen a lot of situations where they needed Matthews to play the shutdown role on the team and it never worked out.

I would never be against upgrading positions, but it's not a necessity at this point in the season.

 

[SprDaVE]

I think most people are starting to realize that there is nothing urgently in NEED of an upgrade.

So the speculation is turning to - what players are available that are perfect fits that could really supercharge an area of the team?

I think no matter what, there are always ways to improve and they should be looked at. Whether it's offence or defense. I'd rather spend less to upgrade our offence than to spend an insane amount of assets for a marginal defensive upgrade. The idea to spent a 1st round pick on someone like Chiarot blows my mind.

The main priority right now is probably to remove salary cap without removing quality as much as possible. Once thats done, we can start accruing cap space and see what else is out there.

 

[ACC1224]

If you read my posts and It seems you do you know I want him replaced

ok?

 

[Kiwi]

Yep, an upgrade on Holl is the top priority IMO.

I'd like to see Sandin and Liljegren given a good opportunity to take that job before we go looking for solutions outside the organisation

 

[Avilaj07]

Chychrun should definitely be our number 1 target. He would solidify our top 4 while allowing Sandin and Liljegren to dominate our bottom pair. Losing Muzzin in last years playoffs paired with our offense disappearing cost us that series. Getting Chychrun not only greatly improves our top 4 but also prevents us from putting Sandin and Liljegren into a position they might not be ready for should one of our top 4 get injured again. He's also signed to a long term team friendly contract.

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Chychrun
Sandin-Liljegren
Dermott

 

[Kiwi]

Chychrun should definitely be our number 1 target. He would solidify our top 4 while allowing Sandin and Liljegren to dominate our bottom pair. Losing Muzzin in last years playoffs paired with our offense disappearing cost us that series. Getting Chychrun not only greatly improves our top 4 but also prevents us from putting Sandin and Liljegren into a position they might not be ready for should one of our top 4 get injured again. He's also signed to a long term team friendly contract.

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Chychrun
Sandin-Liljegren
Dermott

He's also going to be extremely expensive to acquire and plays on the left

If we get him Sandin or Liljegren is going the other way with plusses

 

[ACC1224]

I'd like to see Sandin and Liljegren given a good opportunity to take that job before we go looking for solutions outside the organisation

They already have. The upgrade will of Holl would be as the 6/7.

 

[LeafChief]

Chychrun should definitely be our number 1 target. He would solidify our top 4 while allowing Sandin and Liljegren to dominate our bottom pair. Losing Muzzin in last years playoffs paired with our offense disappearing cost us that series. Getting Chychrun not only greatly improves our top 4 but also prevents us from putting Sandin and Liljegren into a position they might not be ready for should one of our top 4 get injured again. He's also signed to a long term team friendly contract.

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Chychrun
Sandin-Liljegren
Dermott

He's a LD.

 

[Kiwi]

They already have. The upgrade will of Holl would be as the 6/7.

I don't mind Holl as a #6-#7
Its #4 I have an issue with

 

[Avilaj07]

He's a LD.

Yes, I am well aware that Chychrun is a LHD, but I'm not sure you are aware that he played the right side in junior and is actually more effective offensively playing on the right. Not to mention, a player of his caliber should adjust fairly easily, especially considering he's played the right before.

People need to get the idea of having a LHD-RHD for every pair out of their heads. Brodie is a perfect example of a LHD who plays the right and excels at it. Chychrun is a younger, faster, bigger, more skilled Brodie, and if added to our top 4 would probably give us a top 3 defense in the league, while having a top 3 offense and a top goalie.

Tampa for example has Hedman, McDonough and Sergechev in their top 4, all LHD, and I'm pretty sure they're not having any issues.

 

[zeke]

Chychrun should definitely be our number 1 target. He would solidify our top 4 while allowing Sandin and Liljegren to dominate our bottom pair. Losing Muzzin in last years playoffs paired with our offense disappearing cost us that series. Getting Chychrun not only greatly improves our top 4 but also prevents us from putting Sandin and Liljegren into a position they might not be ready for should one of our top 4 get injured again. He's also signed to a long term team friendly contract.

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Chychrun
Sandin-Liljegren
Dermott

I'm not completely sold on Chychrun being an actual #1D, now or in the future.

But let's say our scouting staff thinks he's a good #2/3 type right now with some #1 upside.

While older guys like dermott holl Ritchie etc can be used to finesse the deal, the real assets in this trade would come down to these:

Sandin
Liljegren
Robertson
Amirov
Niemela
Knies
1st '22
1st '23

And it would take 2-3 of these assets to get it done.

I think I'd try my best to avoid trading Sandin/Liljegren so it would end up being likely 3 of those other assets.

I'd be stoked if our scouting staff thought Chychrun was good enough to trade that for.

But then again if other teams think he's a stud #1D in the making they may offer up a higher caliber prospect than any of that.

 

[ToneDog]

I'm not completely sold on Chychrun being an actual #1D, now or in the future.

But let's say our scouting staff thinks he's a good #2/3 type right now with some #1 upside.

While older guys like dermott holl Ritchie etc can be used to finesse the deal, the real assets in this trade would come down to these:

Sandin
Liljegren
Robertson
Amirov
Niemela
Knies
1st '22
1st '23

And it would take 2-3 of these assets to get it done.

I think I'd try my best to avoid trading Sandin/Liljegren so it would end up being likely 3 of those other assets.

I'd be stoked if our scouting staff thought Chychrun was good enough to trade that for.

But then again if other teams think he's a stud #1D in the making they may offer up a higher caliber prospect than any of that.

Be great to get him without a giving up Sandin but I don't see the others moving the needle for Zona. You are not getting top 2 dman on a sweet deal without it hurting some. Maybe they can take on a bad contract to lower the cost but I think it starts with Sandin.

44 Brodie
8 Chychrun
23 37/3

Sweet.

 

[Stephen]

Chychrun is young and cheap and signed to a long time. He's shown some great flashes as an exciting number one and he's only a year older than Liljegren, so a lot of things line up in terms of what the Leafs would want.

However, having been in win now mode for a couple of years and lost some organizational fat over the past few years, I'm not sold on the Leafs having the pieces to really get it done. Robertson and Amirov have missed a ton of time with injuries so they probably aren't must have assets from Arizona's POV. Having Rielly, Sandin, Chychryn, Dermott, Muzzin seems like too many LHD playing LHD. Liljegren is the more positionally scarce player. But I'm sure we'd all prefer to keep Sandin over Liljegren.

 

[SoftDumpNtheCorner88]

Don't think Chychrun makes a significant change to our back end.. he will be an upgrade but also at the expense of shifting our D around to play on their opposite side while our whole break out into the neutral zone helps when our Dman are playing on their natural sides.

Don't shake it too much, we are playing pretty good right now, look for the right fit instead of forcing it.

If he is available for good enough deal that doesn't involve the kitchen sink like most offers then you grab him for his value and try to make it work.

 

[zeke]

But I'm sure we'd all prefer to keep Sandin over Liljegren.

Debatable!