Blackmail?
Larkin is who I really want on the team. I just don't see him leaving DET.
And then he signs in DET as a UFA after the season... Now that would be a kick in the pants.
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Blackmail?
Larkin is who I really want on the team. I just don't see him leaving DET.
And then he signs in DET as a UFA after the season... Now that would be a kick in the pants.
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Build a time machine
Go back to June 27th, 2014
Offer the Stars our 1st+2nd or other D prospect to move from 18 to 14
Draft Larkin
Don't offer him to Vegas in order to keep Dumba/Brodin/Coyle/Nino
Yeah but Detroit isn't going to give him up cheaply.Blackmail?
Larkin is who I really want on the team. I just don't see him leaving DET.
And then he signs in DET as a UFA after the season... Now that would be a kick in the pants.
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Clear $10M in cap for the summer and hope.
Edit: Hey, I did it!
Kaprizov - Larkin ($10) - Boldy ($5)
Greenway - Eriksson Ek - Foligno
Duhaime ($1.5) - Rossi (ELC) - Hartman
Shaw ($900k) - Dewar - Walker ($900k)
13th F ($750k)
Parise buy-out ($7.372)
Brodin - Faber (ELC)
Middleton - Spurgeon
Merrill - Sustr ($900k)
Goligoski
Suter buy-out ($7.372)
Gustavsson ($2.5)
Wallstedt (ELC)
Fleury buy-out ($1.167)
$364k in cap space.
If you want to keep Addison, trade Greenway instead and move Hartman and Walker up one line.
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He's a rental with a full NTC. That makes things harder for DET if Larkin only want to go to a couple of teams. Open market I'd say Rossi (A prospect) + 1st would be the return he gets (similar to Fiala).
Why is everything similar to Fiala? Guerin didn't bargain with other teams and took a prospect that had a 75/25 chance of signing with Minnesota anyways.
I mean yeah with Horvat as well on the market Larkin's value is lower but I'd say between Fiala and Eichel
Because a 1st + a prospect (1st or 2nd rounder) is pretty standard for a rental, and Fiala is the last thing MN has traded away that is in the same ballpark.
Would you prefer a Hanzal trade comparison instead? 1st+stuff for the best center on the market in that year. As rentals Duchene got 1st + stuff. Taffoli was a 1st + stuff. Giroux got a 1st + stuff. Zucc got a 1st + stuff.
Eichel had 4+ years left on his contact when he was traded. This is more inline with the Zucker trade. Not the same situation at all.
Cossa apparently isn't doing well. In fact he's in the ECHL.
Duchene got two firsts and some change. Toffoli got a first and some change but he is also a winger. Giroux got two first round picks. And it was Fletcher.
Giroux + Rubstov (former 2016 1st) +AHLer + 5th for 1st+Trippet (former 2017 1st)+ 3rd. There was some other stuff that went with Girox too. It's just easier to say a 1st + stuff. IMO it's pretty on par with 1st + "A" prospect
The trade worked out as Duchene + nothing prospect for a 1st + 2 nothing prospects. The 2nd 1st in the Duchene trade was a conditional 1st if he re-signed (he didn't). Zucc had a conditional 1st in his trade too (not met). These aren't allowed re-signing conditional picks aren't allowed anymore.
Larkin for a 1st Round Pick, Addison, and a middling prospect. How far off are you if they decide to move Larkin in terms of what other teams are interested and capable of doing at the deadline?
Red Wings have Seider at RD but Addison would likely be a better option than anything else they have coming through at RD as their best defensive prospects options are largely all on the left side.
I think if you make a move for the likes of Larkin or Horvat, you better have a path to re-signing them and there will be more tough decisions to be made over the offseason. It could probably be done but would require some movement but at a certain point you need to bring in a center on this roster.
Red Wings have Seider at RD but Addison would likely be a better option than anything else they have coming through at RD as their best defensive prospects options are largely all on the left side.
I think if you make a move for the likes of Larkin or Horvat, you better have a path to re-signing them and there will be more tough decisions to be made over the offseason. It could probably be done but would require some movement but at a certain point you need to bring in a center on this roster.
If they were to sign Larkin, I think he’d have to come in under Kaprizov which probably questions whether they would get him. Unless you can sell him on him riding shotgun with him over the course of his deal.
I think if you were trying to clear the deck, I wonder if trading Foligno and Greenway wouldn’t be the more realistic approach over dumping Zuccarello and the issues that may cause with Kaprizov. Both I think get you reasonable value in the offseason for the type of games they play for playoff bound teams looking for that sort of add.
It would require Duhaime - Dewar - Shaw to become the new sh*t disturber line with likely lesser results but still. It would also require JEE to start playing and producing with more skilled top 6 line mates.
The main problem you run into is your need to take into account paying Gaudreau way too much for what his role will be moving forward which I think is guaranteed to happen. With that, you’re for sure over the cap looking to dump another contract.
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Anyone have any interest in Gurianov out of Dallas? Saw he was mentioned in an Athletic article as a 10 most likely to be traded at the deadline. 6'3 scoring winger. See he has some complaints about defense, but he is also seeing minimal minutes.
if he doesn't get traded/signed I would think he would be worth a shot?
if he doesn't get traded/signed I would think he would be worth a shot?
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Putting him next to Boldy could help unlock some of the skill he has. Problem is he doesn't seem like the kind guy Evason would prioritize. He would ultimately bump Hartman down to the fourth line, which would bump one of the fourth liners out of the lineup, and Dean likes his fourth liners.
He’s a scoring wing who doesn’t score, and doesn’t play defense, apparently. 5 points in 26 gap, and is getting benched in Dallas. We’ve already got big, dorky wingers who don’t score.
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Arizona is looking for the equivalent of two 1st round picks and a prospect. They would have to be really sure of him as a player to pay that kind of price.
Apparently, this is also contingent on Dumba being traded as well.
Chychrun has two more years left after this one with a $4.6M AAV.
They would need to trade Dumba… and at least one of Middleton/Merrill/Goligoski for this to truly make sense:
Chychrun-Spurgeon
Brodin-Addison
Middleton-Faber
Merrill
Goligoski
I love that top 6 defender group
A 1st, one of our LD prospects( including Lambos) and Beckman/Walker? Maybe Hartman/Steel? Might also have to include a roster Dman, or make another trade.
I know that most of us think we are short of talent up front, and I agree, to a point, but I also think that our D is not nearly as solid as they were when we had the younger Suter, Spurge, Brodin, Dumba, Soucy.
Chychrun would help us offensively, too, and his contract aligns perfectly with our cap situation. He is also a childhood friend of Duhaime, which would add to the appeal of the team, for him.
I’m all for it. Our D is mediocre. Middleton is ok as a third pairing,physical guy, but has bad puck skills, mediocre passing, and below average speed, and should not be in the top 4
I’ve really tempered my bitching about Middleton since the beginning of the year, but it would be great if he was our 3LD.
Hockey Wilderness speculated that we could use Dumba’s trade return as part of the package to Arizona. So something like:
Dumba(50%) for Tor ‘23 1st (+cap if needed)
Tor ‘23 1st + Lambos + Beckman
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$10M to re-sign Boldy, Duhaime, Addison and Gustavsson, and find RW for Boldy/Rossi (or a C for Kap/Zucc), and that's if Rossi can stick next year.
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