Speculation: Trade and Free Agency Talk - 2022-23 Edition - Postseason Success can't be a Myth!

[Digitalbooya]

That's why he'd be worth more; also Fiala didn't want to be in Minnesota, Guerin made that perfectly clear. It isn't Greir's fault that they made some stupid trades in the past.

A high qualifying offer is how you end up with a Boeser situation where he’s overpaid for what he brings. That hurts his value. Fiala wanted to sign a long term deal that Minnesota couldn’t afford. It’s a pretty even back and forth. I doubt anyone is going to send much more than two 1st round picks worth of assets to SJ.

Meier should be pulling exactly what Fiala got is my point.

 

[57special]

Because their GM isn't an idiot? And they are trading at the deadline where prices get inflated.

That is the key. Meier gives the acquiring team ammo for a playoff run, unlike the Fiala trade.

 

[thestonedkoala]

A high qualifying offer is how you end up with a Boeser situation where he’s overpaid for what he brings. That hurts his value. Fiala wanted to sign a long term deal that Minnesota couldn’t afford. It’s a pretty even back and forth. I doubt anyone is going to send much more than two 1st round picks worth of assets to SJ.

Meier should be pulling exactly what Fiala got is my point.

Everyone knew that Fiala wasn't going to sign back in Minnesota. Minnesota didn't even give any indication they were going to try and make it work. Guerin also mentioned he didn't even try to negotiate a deal; he just wanted a fair deal for both parties.

In a world where Nick Foligno gets a 1st or Hagel getting (2) 1sts, it isn't a stretch to see Meier commanding a premium.

 

[Bdub]

Would anyone trade kap for this years 1st overall pick? I would.

 

[f7ben]

I must've missed this.

Yah , I mean Fiala only begged for a king term deal for 2 bridges and arbitration. What would have given us any indication he wanted to stay

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

Lafrienire a healthy scratch for NYR. Get ‘em out of there.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Lafrienire a healthy scratch for NYR. Get ‘em out of there.

Yes please.

 

[57special]

Counting the days till Greenway is shipped out of here. His skill with the puck is non existent, as is his production, and he can't go a shift without falling down. He's got 3 f***ing points so far this season...that's awful for a 4th liner, nvm a guy like whom who is playing on, arguably, the 2nd line, and gets PP TOI.

Very disappointing. He hasn't developed at all.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Greenway+1st for Lafreniere

 

[57special]

Greenway+1st for Lafreniere

I dunno when we end up picking, but Laf does not look vg. I don't know that i'd want to spend a 1st in the 18-23 range on him, in this draft.

 

[Digitalbooya]

I dunno when we end up picking, but Laf does not look vg. I don't know that i'd want to spend a 1st in the 18-23 range on him, in this draft.

Who in the 18-23 part of this draft will be better than Laf?

 

[MNRube]

If we are betting on a former high pick, I’d rather look at Byfield. Worst case he ends up like a Coyle

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

From talking to people who watch Laf, they think it’s a confidence thing with him. If we got him and have him a lot of luck touches and opportunity I bet he’d turn things around, even if he isn’t a true 1OA type. I’d do 1st+Peart type deal.

 

[57special]

From talking to people who watch Laf, they think it’s a confidence thing with him. If we got him and have him a lot of luck touches and opportunity I bet he’d turn things around, even if he isn’t a true 1OA type. I’d do 1st+Peart type deal.

He's slow. Being more confident doesn't really help that. I can see confidence helping him to make quicker decisions.

different types of players, but he and Rossi have some problems in common.

 

[Wildabeast]

The wild better not start trading draft capital; they better just start trading their players worth a da** so they can maybe field a team with young stars in a few years that might get the fan base excited for the team again, or they are never going anywhere. Honestly still not over fletcher / leopold refusing to give up and trading away literally all their draft picks on meaningless players that did nothing for them. Set the franchise back a decade

My personal oppinion is the Wild need to cash in on their best guys and build up skill through the draft next few years and once the dead cap wears off, some of those guys will be worth a you know what and they can build a decent roster and afford it. Only way I see the wild breaking out of their mediocrity.

 

[57special]

Who in the 18-23 part of this draft will be better than Laf?

Well, from his own draft alone I would prefer Mercer(18), and Schneider(20) looks to a player who will be a top 4 RHD with size for a long time. I can come up with a list of players taken in that range who are better than him, or a list of players that are worse, but it's near impossible to argue that he is VERY disappointing as a #1 oa pick, so far. He just looks lost, and ineffective out there. The lack of speed is the one thing that really worries me.

Too early to say in this draft, but it's considered to be a very strong one as far as forwards is concerned.

 

[BagHead]

The wild better not start trading draft capital; they better just start trading their players worth a da** so they can maybe field a team with young stars in a few years that might get the fan base excited for the team again, or they are never going anywhere. Honestly still not over fletcher / leopold refusing to give up and trading away literally all their draft picks on meaningless players that did nothing for them. Set the franchise back a decade

My personal oppinion is the Wild need to cash in on their best guys and build up skill through the draft next few years and once the dead cap wears off, some of those guys will be worth a you know what and they can build a decent roster and afford it. Only way I see the wild breaking out of their mediocrity.

I am almost fully with you on this. I hesitate only because if someone makes a young, promising player available, that's probably worth moving a prospect or two for. Overall, though, I think it's smartest to draft as many highly skilled prospects as possible before the dead cap comes off the books and and hope a lot of cream rises to the top. This team should absolutely sell expiring contracts as rentals to other teams. If they don't, I think that's a failure of perspective.

 

[Wildabeast]

I am almost fully with you on this. I hesitate only because if someone makes a young, promising player available, that's probably worth moving a prospect or two for. Overall, though, I think it's smartest to draft as many highly skilled prospects as possible before the dead cap comes off the books and and hope a lot of cream rises to the top. This team should absolutely sell expiring contracts as rentals to other teams. If they don't, I think that's a failure of perspective.

Yeah that would also work. Seriously though, I see no way out of their current black hole unless they do something like this. Chicago pulled the plug and they are about to start stacking talent like crazy. What's a few bad years with maybe some young players that excite the fan base during that time period for a rock solid future for potentially 10.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Yeah that would also work. Seriously though, I see no way out of their current black hole unless they do something like this. Chicago pulled the plug and they are about to start stacking talent like crazy. What's a few bad years with maybe some young players that excite the fan base during that time period for a rock solid future for potentially 10.

As many Wild fans says this team isn't going to tank or get high draft picks. It's a pipe dream at this point.

 

[Wildabeast]

As many Wild fans says this team isn't going to tank or get high draft picks. It's a pipe dream at this point.

Have faith... Lol. Honestly something has gotta give during these dead cap years. I can feel it approaching

 

[Digitalbooya]

What’s the most people would give up for:

-Horvat (rental)
-Lafreniere
-Kuzmenko
-Toews (rental)
-Domi (rental)
-Duclair (when he returns)

 

[Kshahdoo]

What’s the most people would give up for:

-Horvat (rental)
-Lafreniere
-Kuzmenko
-Toews (rental)
-Domi (rental)
-Duclair (when he returns)

Kuzmenko is rental too because Minnesota doesn't have space to sign him.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Kuzmenko is rental too because Minnesota doesn't have space to sign him.

How much is he expecting? I’m hoping the Wild can bring him in for a few years.

 

[Kshahdoo]

How much is he expecting? I’m hoping the Wild can bring him in for a few years.

Probably $6-7M depending on terms. He's UFA and soon to be 27 after all. He used to play with Kap on CSKA though, should be good pals. Still I doubt he'll make any discount to anybody. He could be an exelent linemate to Boldy but I think it won't happen.

 

[kfan22]

Would anyone trade kap for this years 1st overall pick? I would.

No Chance!! Trade a top 5-7 player in the world for someone who has never played a game in NHL?