Proposal: Toronto - Nashville

[Amadeus]

JVR
Matt Hunwick



Ryan Ellis
Dante Fabbro​

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[NSH615]

JVR
Matt Hunwick



Ryan Ellis
Dante Fabbro​

Wait, you want 2 defensemen? I'd rather finish 30th.

 

[Liferleafer]

JVR
Matt Hunwick



Ryan Ellis
Dante Fabbro​

I pass. Unless JVR is bringing back a really good RHD, i prefer to keep him.

And i think Preds fans say no....

 

[TheCLAM]

JVR
Matt Hunwick



Ryan Ellis
Dante Fabbro​

Leafs fan passing on Ellis.

 

[NSH615]

I pass. Unless JVR is bringing back a really good RHD, i prefer to keep him.

And i think Preds fans say no....

This is correct. Any deal that involves the Preds top 4 without an equal player coming back (Aka Subban for Weber) is a non-starter.

 

[LordNeverLose]

Bad for Nashville.

JVR is worth Fabbro+, but not Fabbro + Ellis

 

[Liferleafer]

This is correct. Any deal that involves the Preds top 4 without an equal player coming back (Aka Subban for Weber) is a non-starter.

Yup. I think the only team we can trade with, in respect to JVR, is Anahiem. They have a surplus of quality D, and that's what we would need back for JVR.

 

[gamer1035]

No interest in trading JVR for an nhl player unless its for a guy who is top pairing or could eventually be top pairing.

Rather trade him for prospects and tank for a #1RD to complete our core while the rookies develop.

 

[Vipers31]

I think you need to update your "supply/demand at Predators" info. They don't have a top-4 guy to spare any longer. I don't think they would even be interested without the overpayment for the difference between Ellis and JVR, at this point.

 

[Hally BlackWood]

No interest in trading JVR for an nhl player unless its for a guy who is top pairing or could eventually be top pairing.

Rather trade him for prospects and tank for a #1RD to complete our core while the rookies develop.

Callan Foote would be nice

 

[Hoverhand]

Being a big Fabbro fan myself I thought this was a pretty good deal at 1st glance but after some thought Carrick and Zaitsev both are likely to cap out at around Ryan Ellis' level while Fabbro being a BCHL alumni is a complete gamble as to how he'll adapt to higher level hockey.

Seeing Preds fans reaction to this I believe it's a hard pass from both sides

 

[Soundgarden]

Nashville can't move any of our top four defense without someone coming back.

Ellis, Ekholm and Josi all make less than 5 mil.

Would have to be Fabbro+ prospects/picks/Wilson

 

[93gilmour93]

JVR
Matt Hunwick



Ryan Ellis
Dante Fabbro​

Not worth it for jvr. Leafs pass....

 

[Hoverhand]

Nashville can't move any of our top four defense without someone coming back.

Ellis, Ekholm and Josi all make less than 5 mil.

Would have to be Fabbro+ prospects/picks/Wilson

I mean if you really made it worth our while we could add in a nice new shiny Roman Polak

 

[NSH615]

I mean if you really made it worth our while we could add in a nice new shiny Roman Polak

Or we can be happey (which we are) with our team as is. Sure we could use an experienced 1LW, but not that bad enough to create a larger hole on defense. This trade creates the opposite hole on our team that it creates on your team.

 

[Apollo Leaf]

Value isn't bad, but I'd rather keep JVR.

 

[BonMorrison]

Ryan Ellis is not for sale.

 

[bobg1]

Bad for Nashville.

JVR is worth Fabbro+, but not Fabbro + Ellis

JVR is worth ALOT MORE than that post

 

[bobg1]

Ryan Ellis is not for sale.

Ellis isn't worth JVR straight-up

 

[Gavy]

Come on. Ellis and Fabbro absolutely have the value to get JVR. Ellis just doesn't make sense for the Leafs.

 

[thecloser]

Come on. Ellis and Fabbro absolutely have the value to get JVR. Ellis just doesn't make sense for the Leafs.

this.

we're back to the constant undervaluing of Ellis. On top of that, like my fellow preds fans have stated, we would need an overpayment that wouldn't make sense for most teams to offer.

I am not downgrading how important a guy like JVR is, because we could certainly use him but right now...if it's a d-man going back...we're just not the right trade partners.

 

[Debonair]

2013-14 Toronto Maple leafs finished with 69 points. That team was coached by Carlyle and had players like Kessel/Dion/JVR/Clarkson....it wasn't rebuilding and was trying to compete.

2014-15 Toronto Maple Leafs finished with 68 points....same deal...not rebuilding, trying to compete.

2015-16 Toronto Maple Leafs finished with 69 points....1 better than the previous season, after trading Kessel...moving Dion and starting a rebuild. We lost JVR for 42 games (leading the team in scoring when injured). We lost Bozak (sadly our 1C) for 25 games. We traded our 1D and captain....our goalie was garbage....and yet, we improved by 1 point....how exactly did we tank last season?

Did our team suck? Ya. But tanking assumes losing on purpose...that isn't what happened here.

Starting Sparks in the final game of the season = losing on purpose.

 

[RCola88]

JVR is worth ALOT MORE than that post

you can't be serious..

 

[ThirdManIn]

Ellis isn't worth JVR straight-up

Cool. That has nothing to do with Ellis not being available.

 

[Halla]

This is correct. Any deal that involves the Preds top 4 without an equal player coming back (Aka Subban for Weber) is a non-starter.

so what your saying is ellis> JVR?