Proposal: Toronto - Arizona

willyjones

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So I think this could work out for both teams. If hanzal is not in the future, would Arizona be interested in bozak? Was thinking

To Arizona - bozak

To Toronto - Stone

I know stone is a ufa, so some kind of contract would have to be worked out in confidence before hand, if that is the case Toronto could add a conditional 4th or 5th or a prospect like Lindberg. I think stone would be a real good fit in our top 4 and I think bozak who is underrated would be a real good fit for Arizona if hanzal is gone.
 

Kaibur

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Bozak has a trade clause and the Yotes are the worst team in the league.

I'd trade a pick for Bozak in the off-season for the last year of his deal, if the Yotes still have a need at center.
 

willyjones

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Bozak has a trade clause and the Yotes are the worst team in the league.

I'd trade a pick for Bozak in the off-season for the last year of his deal, if the Yotes still have a need at center.

Its not like I personally know him, but I could see bozak waiving for Arizona. I think if hanzal is not going to sign in Arizona bozak would be a real good fit there. He meshes well with anybody u put him with. I like bozak think he is underrated and would like to keep him on leafs, but we need a top 4 rhd and I think stone would fit the bill well. Just seems like a good base for both teams? Maybe I'm wrong?
 

Leafs87

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Stone is awesome IMO. Bozak is also very underrated and good.

Would something like this work ?

Bozak
Holland
Polak

For

Stone
Schenn
An underachieving forward
 

willyjones

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Stone is awesome IMO. Bozak is also very underrated and good.

Would something like this work ?

Bozak
Holland
Polak

For

Stone
Schenn
An underachieving forward

From what I've gathered from a couple Arizona fans is Schenn has been a good 6th d man and not really looking to move him. Bozak plus a conditional or prospect for a signed stone seems more simple, no need for added players on both sides unless Arizona wants a Holland or corrado
 

Leafs87

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From what I've gathered from a couple Arizona fans is Schenn has been a good 6th d man and not really looking to move him. Bozak plus a conditional or prospect for a signed stone seems more simple, no need for added players on both sides unless Arizona wants a Holland or corrado

I would do it. Wonder what Yotes fans think
 

ck26

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Bozak has a trade clause and the Yotes are the worst team in the league.

I'd trade a pick for Bozak in the off-season for the last year of his deal, if the Yotes still have a need at center.
This. I don't hate the OP, but one extra year of Bozak at $4m isn't worth not getting whatever draft pick we could get for Stone. Someone similar to Bozak is available for about $4m every summer.
Bozak
Holland
Polak

For

Stone
Schenn
An underachieving forward
*yawn* ... whatever. It's probably fair, I don't see any reason to do it.
 

willyjones

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This. I don't hate the OP, but one extra year of Bozak at $4m isn't worth not getting whatever draft pick we could get for Stone. Someone similar to Bozak is available for about $4m every summer.*yawn* ... whatever. It's probably fair, I don't see any reason to do it.

What about the additional pick or prospect along with bozak for a signed stone ? Holland or corridor could also be throw in if need stop gap
 

lanceuppercut75

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Leafs have 7 d-men that management view as "definitely NHL players", and also Corrado.

If we were to add an 8th NHL player and put Corrado on waivers, we'd be healthy scratching two of Marincin, Carrick, Polak, and Hunwick every single game.

Unless a side trade also happens, or a major injury, any "Stone to Toronto" trade probably involves Marincin or Carrick or Polak or Hunwick.
 

willyjones

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Leafs have 7 d-men that management view as "definitely NHL players", and also Corrado.

If we were to add an 8th NHL player and put Corrado on waivers, we'd be healthy scratching two of Marincin, Carrick, Polak, and Hunwick every single game.

Unless a side trade also happens, or a major injury, any "Stone to Toronto" trade probably involves Marincin or Carrick or Polak or Hunwick.

Stone is a legit top 4 rhd , that the leafs are in need of. Carrick is a 5-6 and the rest I would have no issues trading or waiving or sitting. Once the season over this would be a non issue with hunwick Polak and hopefully marincin gone. Babcock and lou and company have already shown if ur outplayed u loose ur spot. Stone instantly would make our top 4 better and if that means they rotate the rest of the guys until next season oh well. Not saying its the best scenario but they are doing that already so if it means adding stone I do not see them not doing it
 

Halla

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If toronto wanted stone they just wait for him to hit UFA.
doesn't he want like 5m+?
 

Halla

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What about the additional pick or prospect along with bozak for a signed stone ? Holland or corridor could also be throw in if need stop gap

Bozak is on pace for 59 points. leafs wouldnt add to him unless stone was signed to a VERY friendly deal.

sign and trades dont happen in the NHL, this one is going no where.
stone to the rangers for 2nd + good prospect probably works better
 
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Willy Styles

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I doubt Bozak waives for Ari

He's the longest serving Leaf, repeatedly says he loves Toronto and is in a very good situation right now with a young team. Unless the team can somehow convince him its worth it to waive, I highly doubt he would waive if given the opportunity.
 

Leon Lucius Black

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Leafs have 7 d-men that management view as "definitely NHL players", and also Corrado.

If we were to add an 8th NHL player and put Corrado on waivers, we'd be healthy scratching two of Marincin, Carrick, Polak, and Hunwick every single game.

Unless a side trade also happens, or a major injury, any "Stone to Toronto" trade probably involves Marincin or Carrick or Polak or Hunwick.

Pretty much every other GM in the league doesn't view most of those 4 as NHL players.
 

Kelly

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Pretty much every other GM in the league doesn't view most of those 4 as NHL players.

Carrick definitely is, the rest I'd agree with -- Marincin, Polak, Hunwick probably should be 7th defenseman at best.
 

WrinkledPossum

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I'd gladly accept this. It would allow us to move Hanzal ASAP. We need a C for next year and I'd be very happy to get Bozak.

If toronto wanted stone they just wait for him to hit UFA.
doesn't he want like 5m+?

Not really sure what he wants, but I see him in the 4-5m range. I think the issue with his contract going into this year was that he was coming off an injury. Team didn't know exactly when he'd be back and how he would play.
 

willyjones

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I'd gladly accept this. It would allow us to move Hanzal ASAP. We need a C for next year and I'd be very happy to get Bozak.



Not really sure what he wants, but I see him in the 4-5m range. I think the issue with his contract going into this year was that he was coming off an injury. Team didn't know exactly when he'd be back and how he would play.

I think stone at 4 to 4.5 would be a good signing. I get some leaf fans do not want to trade bozak, but something tells me with Willie being moved from wing to center it will be mattews, Willie and kadri moving forward. If we can get the top 4 rhd we need and Arizona gets to move hanzal and get bozak maybe its a win win for both teams.
 

TheDoldrums

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Would really like the Leafs to make a move like this. Bozak is talented offensively, but he's pretty poor defensively and the Leafs would be better off moving forward if Nylander could develop as a centre in the top 9.

Stone is the perfect kind of target. I can see the fit with Arizona's current centre depth.
 

Srsly

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Would really like the Leafs to make a move like this. Bozak is talented offensively, but he's pretty poor defensively and the Leafs would be better off moving forward if Nylander could develop as a centre in the top 9.

Stone is the perfect kind of target. I can see the fit with Arizona's current centre depth.

Poor defensively is a stretch. He's more or less the definition of average. He's obviously not a seller calibur center but he's consistently been one of the better two way players on his line barring a few gaffs here or there. People in our fanbase tend to focus far too much on two day play and forget that there's more to the game then throwing the occasional poke check.

As for the deal, I don't really mind it. I'm not really enthusiastic about the thought either. I'd rather roll the dice on a struggling younger defensemen. A boom or bust type. But if the market for that sort of player isn't there, I'd likely pull the trigger.
 

willyjones

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Poor defensively is a stretch. He's more or less the definition of average. He's obviously not a seller calibur center but he's consistently been one of the better two way players on his line barring a few gaffs here or there. People in our fanbase tend to focus far too much on two day play and forget that there's more to the game then throwing the occasional poke check.

As for the deal, I don't really mind it. I'm not really enthusiastic about the thought either. I'd rather roll the dice on a struggling younger defensemen. A boom or bust type. But if the market for that sort of player isn't there, I'd likely pull the trigger.

See and I would rather see them get a sure thing in stone and get a solid number 3 or 4 d man, then go for the boom or bust guys. Its time we get a top 4 that is what it suppose to be a top 4 And have some young upcoming boom players play lower minutes as 5,6 and 7 d man should.
 

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lifelonghockeyfan

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Trading for Stone is silly. He's going to be UFA, regardless of what any one thinks. Now if has signed a deal and then traded, that's different.
Bozak is a valuable member of the Leafs. Trading Stone for Bozak doesn't necessarily make the Leafs better this season.
 

willyjones

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Trading for Stone is silly. He's going to be UFA, regardless of what any one thinks. Now if has signed a deal and then traded, that's different.
Bozak is a valuable member of the Leafs. Trading Stone for Bozak doesn't necessarily make the Leafs better this season.

Their is going to be a lot of teams bidding on him if he becomes a ufa. My reasoning for this is leafs would have to have some sort of deal on principal with stone to make this deal. I like bozak but I think jvr is more valuable to this team, if leafs can get a top 4 rhd entering his prime and keep jvr to play with Matthews and marner it hurts to loose bozak but it benefits us in long term.
 

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