Proposal: Torey Krug for a Center

[Beesfan]

Something around Pageau or Tierney?

Tierney, possibly. Don't know much about his 2 way game. I like Pageau, but not in a deal for Krug.

 

[LucicAndChong]

Another LHD? Yay....?

Reilly can and has played RD, it’s not optimal but if argue Krug - Reilly is better than Gardiner - Reilly overall. Krug is less of an offensive threat but his defensive capabilities allow Reilly more freedom than if he was playing with Gards

 

[Estlin]

Krug is worth more than what's being offered here, except for Kadri.

 

[Michoulicious]

Torey Krug is a great player, but the Bruins are also developing some very nice prospects at left D (Vaakanainen, Grzelcyk and Lauzon) while their center prospects are struggling. A swap of Krug for a high impact 3rd line center could work out for both teams.

Looking for a strong two way center that can put up at least 40 points, reasonable price, some term left, under 32.

Anyone fit the bill?

Krug for Danault.

Send the paperworks, done deal!

Everyone live happily everafter.

 

[Djp]

This is an insane thing to say. Krug has 50 points the last two seasons and is well on his way to doing it again this year. He plays 22 min a night and quarterbacks a deadly power play. A 40 point center is worth more than that?



This is interesting. I haven't seen a lot of him this year. Any reason his numbers are down?

His numbers are inflated because he is a PP specialists on a bottom pair.

 

[Beesfan]

His numbers are inflated because he is a PP specialists on a bottom pair.

Power play goals count the same as even strength goals. The Bruins win a lot of their games because of the power play, and it just is not nearly as effective without Krug. A team with a struggling pp could definitely use Torey Krug.

 

[NDiesel]

His numbers are inflated because he is a PP specialists on a bottom pair.

You're misinformed. He's generally our 2nd pair dman on majority of nights, has played some 1st pairing this year due to tons of injuries to our D.

 

[sheed36]

Krug for Danault.

Send the paperworks, done deal!

Everyone live happily everafter.

Not gonna happen. Claude Julien would be very unhappy if his GM traded his adopted son Phil Danault.

 

[jfhabs]

I'd do this.

Would love Krug next to Weber, but can't see Boston moving him... why are the fans considering this?
I feel like you guys are ok at center with Bergeron, Krejci. Backes/Heinen/Kuraly/Donato aren't doing well enough to be the 3rd line C?

 

[NDiesel]

Would love Krug next to Weber, but can't see Boston moving him... why are the fans considering this?
I feel like you guys are ok at center with Bergeron, Krejci. Backes/Heinen/Kuraly/Donato aren't doing well enough to be the 3rd line C?

A lot of Bruins fans greatly dislike Krug because of his defensive shortcomings. He's up for a new contract in two seasons and it's tough to envision them giving him a contract similar to Shattenkirk at that time (which he'll easily command). Their 3rd line C spot is weak right now with Krejci and Bergeron only getting older, hence why people would like to see Krug moved for an upgrade here. Personally I keep him, only upgrade I would try for is a top 6 winger.

 

[JCRO]

Krug is of a rare breed. Offensive dynamo on the back end and a transition game every team needs from their backend.

With that said, he has his struggles defensively. And many of us in Boston want to see him stay but he's going to command some money after next year.

Anyways, some of these offers a ridiculous. Come on now.

Guy almost put up 60 pts last year and has 24 in 29 this year! Those numbers are crazy for a defensemen.

 

[SlapshotTheMovie]

Sure, but would a third line center with similar term get moved for a similar package? Yes. Krug would command a pretty good package if he was sold for futures.

I am not trying to downplay Krugs value. I think he is good. This is HF though where whatever you are trading is shit and you will only get bad contracts for it in return.

 

[Oates2Neely]

IF Krug were moved, I would guess he would be part of a package being shipped out for an upgrade elsewhere. For example, I could see something like this in summer 2019;
Krug + Bjork + 2020 1st FOR 2nd line RW

I can’t see Krug being moved for a 3rd line center. He’s far more valuable than a Danault

 

[Beesfan]

Would love Krug next to Weber, but can't see Boston moving him... why are the fans considering this?
I feel like you guys are ok at center with Bergeron, Krejci. Backes/Heinen/Kuraly/Donato aren't doing well enough to be the 3rd line C?

We do have a big hole at 3rd line C. Backes/Heinen/Donato are not played at C anymore even when the roster is depleted by injuries. Instead, we are playing Colby Cave/JFK/Kuraly/Accari/Wagner in those bottom two center slots. It just isn't getting it done.

The major reason I would consider trading Krug is that we have a good amount of depth at LD. Short term, Krug is replaced by Grzelcyk, who is very effective in a different way. Vaakanainen has also looked very good both in Providence and Boston this year. Beyond that, we have Lauzon and Zboril who may be ready in the next year or so. On the flip side, our center prospects are struggling and there isn't much relief in sight (other than Studnicka in a couple years).

 

[easton117]

A lot of Bruins fans greatly dislike Krug because of his defensive shortcomings. He's up for a new contract in two seasons and it's tough to envision them giving him a contract similar to Shattenkirk at that time (which he'll easily command). Their 3rd line C spot is weak right now with Krejci and Bergeron only getting older, hence why people would like to see Krug moved for an upgrade here. Personally I keep him, only upgrade I would try for is a top 6 winger.

Not sure if they dislike Krug or dislike the idea of having him and Grizz on the left side in the playoffs. We all saw what happened last year against Tampa who aren’t even an overly physical club.

Krug is just the guy that will get the most back in a deal, dealing from a position of relative strength.

The contract thing is worrisome. If Bruins fans didnt think Shattenkirk was worth the deal he got I don’t see how you justify paying Krug 6 million plus.

 

[Riptide]

Kadri is a higher scorer than what I necessarily had in mind.

I was thinking more like Michael Backlund, Lars Eller, Cody Eakin, etc.

I doubt there's many GMs in the league that would move a PMD like Krug who's on pace for 67pts for someone who's a clear cut 3c (like Eller/Eakin/etc). Backlund is a 2c, not a 3c. And yes I'm aware that 16 of his 24 points are the on the PP. Doesn't change how valuable he is as a very good offensive/PMD.

I'm sure Pittsburgh would be interested with Brassard, but he doesn't really fit what you're looking for. Nor do I think Boston (and probably not their fans) would really go there (even with a guarantee to re-sign - which likely doesn't happen given that he'd be a 3c vs a 2c).

A 40 point center is worth more than Krug?

I think some really underestimate the value, and more importantly the importance/necessity of strong puck moving D (skating/passing) to aid in the transition game and to have speed going up the ice. Then there's the importance of Krug to Boston's PP. Boston is #4 in the league at 27.1%, and Krug has 16PPP. The next D has 4.

One only has to watch the 2017 Penguins in the POs to see what happens when a team built around a very good PMD like Letang looks like when they no longer have that player. And while Krug isn't Letang, I don't think he's getting the credit he deserves here.

 

[Bruins1993]

Krug for duchene

 

[Mike Dukarm]

Krug for duchene

Duchene is UFA

 

[Riptide]

His numbers are inflated because he is a PP specialists on a bottom pair.

Guys who play 22 minutes a night overall or 18 minutes a night at ES are not "bottom pairing Dmen". And being a PP specialist only adds to what he does, not detract from it. Sure it inflates his numbers, but that doesn't change what he can provide for a team's transition game or for their PP in general.

Krug doesnt have much term left - that limits the return

GMs trade for guys (and give value) all the time when they have 12/18 mths left on their deals. And frequently without having any sort of discussions/guarantee's before hand about signing an extension. Players if they like the situation (team/management group/city) and are getting the role they want and are being offered a contract that is fair given their abilities are likely going to stay where they are vs looking elsewhere. Who wants to uproot a family and move if you have a good thing going where you're at? No guarantee's, but if you have a good team and the player likes the city, odds are decent that you'd be able to keep them if you're willing to pony up the cash for their next contract.

 

[burstnbloom]

Deal...

But i think you could get more... a center 40-50 pts for Krug isnt enought for him

I really like Danault and he's got an under market deal for 2 more years. I'd be happy with this, but if the habs want to send more, im cool with that!

 

[Liferleafer]

I really like Danault and he's got an under market deal for 2 more years. I'd be happy with this, but if the habs want to send more, im cool with that!

Huh....after seeing prices of Dmen to Toronto on this site...this surprises me.

 

[CupInSIX]

Kadri is a higher scorer than what I necessarily had in mind.

I was thinking more like Michael Backlund, Lars Eller, Cody Eakin, etc.

Done.

 

[burstnbloom]

Huh....after seeing prices of Dmen to Toronto on this site...this surprises me.

Well, I don't know what was going on in those threads, but I am of a mind that center depth is a huge problem for the Bruins long term and a 25 yo 2 way center with 2+ years of under market term seems like a really good get. Losing Krug would hurt, a lot. I just don't think he's on the team in 2020 either way and locking in a guy who may have some untapped offensive upside, but plans well on both sides gives the Bruins some flexibility as Krejci and Bergeron age.

I also may be overvaluing Danault. I really like players like him and I always have. A conscientious center with leader by example character will always get me excited. I know HFboards is all about the flashy goal scorers but I'm not.

 

[BruinsBtn]

The Bruins are:
1) The best defensive team in the NHL
2) Struggling to score

...and your solution is to trade a 60-pt defenseman for a 50-point 3rd liner?

 

[bearcountry17]

The Bruins are:
1) The best defensive team in the NHL
2) Struggling to score

...and your solution is to trade a 60-pt defenseman for a 50-point 3rd liner?

This. It's crazy listening to people demand his trade because of his poor defensive play when the Bruins are ranked 20th in GF/GP and 3rd in GA/GP. The definition of illogical.